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Russia Claims Large Chunk of North Pole

kungfoofairy writes "Russia has laid claim to over one million square kilometers of the Artic. This announcement comes on the return of a scientific expedition into the region which found that the Lomonosov Ridge connects to Russia. The area is supposed to have a reserve of 10 billion tons of natural gas and oil. 'A BBC map shows Russia's proposal; this set of maps from The New York Times illustrates the area at stake and different ways it might be divided ... The Russians have tried to advance their claim before, and were turned away by the United Nations in 2001. The new geological data is evidently meant to improve the odds for a second try. '"

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  1. Couldn't help but notice... by Soulfader · · Score: 2, Interesting
  2. Or is it Canada's? by vux984 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    From: http://www.guardian.co.uk/russia/article/0,,211328 9,00.html?gusrc=rss&feed=networkfront

    Yesterday, however, some scientists doubted whether Russia's latest Arctic grab stood up to scrutiny.

    To extend a zone, a state has to prove that the structure of the continental shelf is similar to the geological structure within its territory. Under the current UN convention on the laws of the sea, no country's shelf extends to the North Pole. Instead, the International Seabed Authority administers the area around the pole as an international area.

    "Frankly I think it's a little bit strange," Sergey Priamikov, the international co-operation director of Russia's Arctic and Antarctic Research Institute in St Petersburg, told the Guardian. "Canada could make exactly the same claim. The Canadians could say that the Lomonosov ridge is part of the Canadian shelf, which means Russia should in fact belong to Canada, together with the whole of Eurasia."

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    Pwned! All your base are belong to ... Canada!!

  3. Re:Argument goes something like... by VirusEqualsVeryYes · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Repeat every 6 years until ... people realise that ... their first responsibility should be to the human race.


    What? This won't happen until the "human race" has a common enemy. We are tribal in nature, so humans will always fight at the highest level of categorization, and those categories will only unite when they have a common thing to fight against. It's possible that natural disaster could become a common enemy, but it's more likely that we will remain infighting until we find a sentient alien race (or said alien race finds us).

    So, expect to see this fight over an ice cap go on for awhile. It won't matter in the long run, once we have to start worrying about other planets.
  4. "Good old times" by Soulfader · · Score: 4, Interesting

    You are probably more right than you know. The first step is to convince people that things weren't really that bad.

  5. Uh, the Danish claim? by Svippy · · Score: 1, Interesting

    I am pondering why the Danish possible claim is not mentioned. In fact, Denmark would like Russia to wait a bit with their land proposal, until we have our scientific basis to claim the North Pole. Also, Santa Clause lives in Greenland, not Finland or the North Pole.

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  6. Re:Argument goes something like... by Lord+Ender · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If the marketers can convince everyone to pay $1.50 for a bottle of water, perhaps they can convince everyone to accept poverty or ignorance as a common enemy.

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  7. Re:I claim the whole north pole by Rei · · Score: 5, Interesting

    If only you two were serious; squabbles between petty powers can be almost amusing. For example, Tonga vs. the Republic of Minerva. A group of businessmen founded an organization with the goal of creating a libertarian paradise called the "Republic of Minerva". They spent a fortune shipping sand onto a section of the remote, submerge Minerva Reef, raised it above sea level, erected a small stone platform and a flag, and announced their independence. They issued their own currency and started working on everything it is that a country does. Sadly for the libertarian idealists, Tonga rallied every troop they could muster from their 100,000 person nation, including a band of convicts, a brass band, and Tonga's 350-pound king. They invaded and conquered the miniscule sand pile, losing one man in the process of taking the uninhabited island (I kid not; a fight broke out among two of the convicts. The Republic of Minerva had a murder rate higher than its population).

    The whole thing would have made a great YouTube video.

    Will nothing stop Tonga's unbridled military might? We must stop the Greater Tongan Co-Prosperity Sphere before it is too late!

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  8. Re:let them have it by triffid_98 · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Makes sense to me, nuclear winter and global warming will cancel each other out. As an added bonus, most of us won't need a night-light to take a piss in the middle of the night anymore.

    Let them have it. Then convince the idiotic masses that, since Russia is melting it's polar cap, we need to launch a preemptive strike against Russia before they flood our coastal cities.