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Apple iPhone Dissected

Conch writes "Only hours after the launch, the Apple iPhone has been dissected. The good folks at AnandTech violated one of the first iPhones to still our curiosity about whats inside the aluminum shell. 'Please note that we're doing this so you are not tempted to on your recent $500/$600 expenditure, while it is quite possible to take apart using easy to find tools we'd recommend against it as it will undoubtedly void your warranty and will most likely mar up the beautiful gadget's exterior.'"

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  1. More and more detailed pics by stefanb · · Score: 5, Informative

    at ThinkSecret. Plus they didn't destroy the case :-)

    1. Re:More and more detailed pics by Gwwfps · · Score: 3, Informative

      They did destroy some stuff inside though, which didn't happen here, from the looks of it.

  2. What's that? by Whiney+Mac+Fanboy · · Score: 4, Insightful
    That noise - as if millions of fanbois suddenly cried out in shock and were suddenly silenced. I fear something terrible has happened....

    Joke's aside - the thing I really noted from TFA was:

    The big yellow thing in the middle is the iPhone battery; you're definitely not replacing this thing on your own
    More planned obsolescence. Pity. I'd like to see Apple go a little greener. A non-user replaceable battery limits the life of a device substantially.
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    1. Re:What's that? by Svippy · · Score: 3, Interesting

      More planned obsolescence. Pity. I'd like to see Apple go a little greener. A non-user replaceable battery limits the life of a device substantially.

      You know as well as I, that Apple likes to keep control of their own things. And besides, it is not like there would be any business in a normal mobile store to sell iPhone batteries, whereas selling for instance Nokia batteries could be a good idea, because a lot of phones from Nokia uses the same batteries. I think even across brand names are the same battery used. Not until the iPhone becomes popular enough or Apple makes more phones that uses the same battery (and of course make it easy to exchange battery) will any other store consider selling them, and Apple knows that.

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    2. Re:What's that? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      More planned obsolescence. Pity. I'd like to see Apple go a little greener. A non-user replaceable battery limits the life of a device substantially.

      I've had three mobile phones in my life, each of them for about 4 years. I have never replaced a battery in any of them.

      Granted, at the end of the 4 years I might need to charge them every three days instead of every five, but that's not a problem for me. And by the time I get rid of the phone it's usually because it has failed in general - broken clamshell joint or broken charger connection, for example.

      Most likely Apple has made the battery non-replacable because they have better uses for the space required for a replacable battery; and because user replacement of batteries is a fairly unusual thing.

      Just my $0.02

    3. Re:What's that? by SageMusings · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Which makes me ask this question:

      If the iPhone is unsubsidized and costs $500+, why does AT&T demand a 2-year contract? Wouldn't that be more palatable if the carrier was fronting some of the cost?

      I can't wait for the day when contracts for cell phones go away. Can you imagine your local carrier for your land line telling you they required a 2-year contract before you could switch long-distance carriers? If I do *anything* with my Verizon phone, it comes with a demand for a new contract. Where is consumer protection?

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  3. Re:Hooray Apple released a phone! by Eternauta3k · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Can they please go back to making computers now?
    More profit in making gadgets & iPods?
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  4. Wow by niceone · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Obviously you can't change the battery yourself, but from those pictures it looks like even Apple couldn't change it. That can't be so, can it?

    1. Re:Wow by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Obviously you can't change the battery yourself, but from those pictures it looks like even Apple couldn't change it. That can't be so, can it?

      You know, I have the feeling people who buy high-tech, flashy gadgetry such as the iPhone aren't likely to invest in it for the long term, with a value-for-money approach to buying and owning the product. The battery will probably last long enough for the owner to have another "oh shiny!" purchasing moment and relegate his iPhone to the bottom of some drawer...

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    2. Re:Wow by suv4x4 · · Score: 5, Funny

      You know, I have the feeling people who buy high-tech, flashy gadgetry such as the iPhone aren't likely to invest in it for the long term, with a value-for-money approach to buying and owning the product.

      You'll be surprised. Most Mac people I know are poor, unemployed, and step on toes around their machines. But they were so convinced they should absolutely must get Apple, they would stay away from pot for a month to afford one.

    3. Re:Wow by FireFury03 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Most Mac people I know are poor

      They probably weren't poor until they blew all their cash on Apple kit. :)

    4. Re:Wow by Gord · · Score: 5, Informative

      Obviously you can't change the battery yourself, but from those pictures it looks like even Apple couldn't change it. That can't be so, can it?

      Apple will replace it under their service program, when the phone is out-of-warranty. $85.95 including postage.

      http://www.apple.com/support/iphone/service/batter y/

    5. Re:Wow by itsdapead · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Obviously you can't change the battery yourself, but from those pictures it looks like even Apple couldn't change it. That can't be so, can it?

      Welcome to the scorched Earth.

      Lots of people habitually upgrade their phone every time they upgrade their contract - OK that's with free or heavily subsidised phones that don't cost $500 with a contract - but rest assured, those guys who queued all day yesterday are not going to be seen dead using a first-generation iPhone in two year's time. These are the customers that will be paying Steve's mortgage, not the ones still using their 5-year-old handset, so why waste money designing a phone to last more that 2 years?

      Plus, it doesn't half make that $70 AppleCare protection plan look attractive.

      Having said that, I'm sure Apple service agents will be able to replace the battery (...a purpose designed case-opening tool and a supply of replacement back covers would make it rather easier) - and from Apple's POV a battery hatch, contacts and additional casing will cost a few cents more, might add a millimetre to the thickness and would be something else to break, go wrong or get replaced by a cookie by someone's sprog. Its not like the iPod flopped because of a non-removable battery.

      (PS - I'm not saying I like the idea)

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    6. Re:Wow by Gothmolly · · Score: 2, Insightful

      No, they're still using the Mac that their parents bought them when they lived in the basement. The reason that they don't have any money is that they're too busy updating their blogs, and buying emo music, thick-rimmed glasses, and 1970s Tshirts.

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    7. Re:Wow by djh101010 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Apple will replace it under their service program, when the phone is out-of-warranty. $85.95 including postage.

      http://www.apple.com/support/iphone/service/batter y/ Oh come on now, Gord, the bashers were displaying their ignorance for us, and you had to go and spoil the little show by injecting actual facts and everything. What were you thinking?

      Another point, is that I've sent 2 iPods back to Apple for battery replacement, and both times they came back as (presumably) the same guts but a new battery, and case. So the cost (60 bucks as I recall) was in effect a refurb. Looked like a brand new unit coming back.
    8. Re:Wow by Wdomburg · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Hell, I can't even buy a $2500 COMPUTER that can keep pace with technology that long.

      Some people use their electronics to do things, not "keep pace with technology". My last $600 computer lasted me seven years.

    9. Re:Wow by antime · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Will the data on my iPhone be preserved?

      No, the repair process will clear all data from your iPhone.

      How much do you want to bet they're not repairing jack shit, just giving you a new phone?
    10. Re:Wow by ivan256 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Having said that, I'm sure Apple service agents will be able to replace the battery (...a purpose designed case-opening tool and a supply of replacement back covers would make it rather easier)


      From seeing the Think Secret pictures, I agree. A special tool for removing the bottom half of the back, four screws, and a soldering iron and you're in. You probably don't even have to send it back to Apple. I've seen in-store cell phone repair techs perform more complex operations than that.

      It wasn't too long ago when those types of electronics repairs were common, but today's typical geek can't remember back far enough to the times when nothing inside your PC was socketed/slotted, and every repair required solder; and when every town had a radio & television repair shop with tube testers and a permanent smell of flux inside.
    11. Re:Wow by dAzED1 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Hell, I can't even buy a $2500 COMPUTER that can keep pace with technology that long.

      I know you wrote that as bait for the kind of response that I'm going to give, but...I'm going to give it anyway.

      I'm in the top 5% of incomes in the US (meaning, it wasn't because I couldn't afford a replacement), yet my main computer from 1999-2006 was a $900 laptop. The only reason I dumped it was because the internal power board (the one with the jack for the power supply, and the one that handled charging the battery) smoked one day while I was using it, and well...wasn't going to be able to find a replacement part for it. Esp since my battery (probably related, natch) hadn't been charging for about 6 months anyway, which meant I needed a new battery too. Was finally time to retire it.

      So, I spent another $1100, and my new laptop will likely last me not quite as long, but certainly at least double the lifespan of the iPhone battery.

      You may want to rethink what it is you are trying to keep up with.

    12. Re:Wow by fermion · · Score: 3, Interesting
      You would be amazed at how long an Mac can last. Macs tend to be designed for power and durability, not to meet some arbitrary low price point. This means that Apple can pay suppliers for first pick parts, and not just settle for the parts that fell off the truck.

      So I have an Apple cube running a smartboard, a powerbook from around 2000 that is my home entertainment setup, a powermac from around 1998 that isn't used much but still works very well, not to mention sundry mac classics, etc, that had to go away because they were not OS X capable.

      My ipods still work, though I never was impressed with the battery life in them, nor do I like the Apple replacement policy, which is why I am hesitant about the iPhone. But the still work, compared to my Nomad, which has little plastic pieces broken off, which means that I paid about the same amount of money for a device that does not work.

      The same applies to my high price phone. Battery lasted a year, then had to charge it every day if I used it, then had to pay $50 for a new one. OTOH, a few years on, my iPod battery is still tolerable. Hopefully, like the iPod, I can send in the iPhone for a battery swap. I think the issue is not going to be the value of the phone, but the value of the time to wait to swap out the phone. If one can't be without a phone for a couple days, and I know many people, even children, who can't, then those will be the ones who will have the new phone. The rest of us, trying to get the full value out of the product, will just eventually have two phones. One for every day, and one for sunday best.

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    13. Re:Wow by fbartho · · Score: 2, Interesting

      ...Till Later. If they had to wait till every phone was received, then send it to whereever they process the phones as a big batch (Mexico? China?) Then wait until they are batch shipped back, then finally send it back to you, I bet it would take way too long. However if they just wait until the device is received at a preprocessing center, they verify the serial and model details, then they can just toss it into a container and pick out an identical, tested, refurb unit that they send to you, immediately. The container gets sent off eventually, for much cheaper shipping for them. And the service center guts those units, takes all the working parts, and puts them back together into a unit that gets tagged as refurb, certified new battery, and gets sent back to the preprocessing center as a big batch.

      Better experience all around, and probably cheaper operating costs. But that's just my guess.

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    14. Re:Wow by Stewie241 · · Score: 2, Informative

      a. kit is a slang term for gear. So, read, They probably weren't poor until they blew all their cash on Apple Gear. :)

      b. that being said, I believe the iPod is an Apple product that requires other parts (most don't even come with a charger that can be plugged into the wall).

  5. The software by yohanes · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I am more interested in someone hacking the software (is it really OSX?, can you flash it, etc). But this may provide a good start, because they give quite detailed photos of most of the hardware.

    1. Re:The software by quickbrownfox · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I haven't yet worked out whether the iPhone will be a big success or a massive flop. What I do know though is that it will only be bought by people who buy based on hype rather than featureset. So the equation comes down to how many Apple fanboys are there with buckets of cash who will buy something purely because Apple tells them to.
      So I guess the revolutionary interface doesn't count as a "feature"? I saw several women and teens in line at my local Apple store - not your typical Apple fanboys. I think these people respond to the iPhone because Apple designed it for them. They didn't design it for you. Just ignore it if you don't want one, but don't accuse the people who are interested in it of being gullible simpletons. Apple has built their reputation on simple, elegant, intuitive interface design. And, whether you care about it or not, that is an important feature to a lot of people.
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    2. Re:The software by heinousjay · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I'm such a huge fan of people who assert, even indirectly as you did, that anyone who doesn't agree with their opinion must be stupid.

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    3. Re:The software by kchrist · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It looks like it really is OS X. John Gruber posted a Mail.app (actually called MobileMail.app on the iPhone) crash log that reveals all sorts of interesting about the filesystem layout, including the existence of /Applications, /System/Library/Frameworks, /usr/lib, and so on. MobileMail is using sqlite for storage, apparently.

  6. Re:Hooray Apple released a phone! by Whiney+Mac+Fanboy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Can they please go back to making computers now?

    No

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  7. Snuff movie by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's like some kind of warped geek snuff movie

  8. SIM by wikinerd · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Here in Europe in most cases we can change the SIM easily. Why not in the US?

    1. Re:SIM by lexarius · · Score: 4, Informative

      You can change the SIM in the iPhone too (there are pictures of the software demanding that the SIM be inserted). However, like many US phones, it is vendor locked and can only be used with SIMs from a particular provider. If Apple drops the exclusive deal with AT&T (which they can do in two years), they'll probably send out unlock codes via Software Update. Maybe.

    2. Re:SIM by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      Uh, it's quite easy to change the SIM card in the iPhone. There's a tray at the top that works like the battery tray in the Apple Remote.

    3. Re:SIM by abdulla · · Score: 2, Informative

      I think it's actually 5 years. They must have one hell of a deal.

    4. Re:SIM by xil · · Score: 3, Informative

      No, you don't have to take it apart! There's a slot on the outside of the device, that you can open with a paperclip, that opens the tray with the SIM card.

  9. The battery is not replaceable by design. by Cordath · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Have you ever changed the battery in an iPod? It's possible, but a royal nuisance. Anyone who has done so probably realizes that Apple never really intended it to be possible. With the iPhone they've taken it a step further by soldering the battery directly to the board. I think that says it all. The only question is whether or not the battery will live up to daily use long enough to last out the contracts people are signing themselves into.

    From the pictures on anandtech, it appears that the iPhone uses a Li-poly battery. That's an interesting choice, but a concerning one. Those typically do not last for as many charges as a plain old lithium ion battery. Apple is probably counting on the fact that the people who will lay out the kind of money the iPhone costs are the sort who won't try to nurse a device on for years, but rather, are the sort that will bin said device as soon as the next greatest thing (Hopefully the next generation of iPhone) comes along.

    I suppose in this light it's not really planned obsolescence. Apple just built the iPhone to the minimum specs of the fickle trendy gadget crowd.

    1. Re:The battery is not replaceable by design. by DarkVader · · Score: 5, Insightful

      So it takes a soldering iron to change the battery. That's not exactly making it a challenge for most people on Slashdot, right?

      And it's not like we're going to have any real trouble sourcing a battery either, all the usual iPod battery suppliers will have them.

      I'm really not sure why people keep whining about the battery thing. That's really the least of the iPhone's problems as far as I'm concerned.

      My list of why I won't buy one now, and maybe not ever:

      1. I don't know if it will tether. If it won't, dealbreaker.
      2. EDGE - I have an EDGE phone now. It's too slow. If 802.11 worked where I needed my phone to access the internet, I wouldn't need my phone to access the internet.
      3. Javascript is not an SDK.
      4. Not enough storage capacity to be useful as an iPod. I wouldn't mind at all having a hard drive in my phone, I want 80GB, not 8.
      5. I don't do 2 year contracts.
      6. This thing is useless without activation. If I decide I don't want Cingular, it's not even an ipod, it's a doorstop.

      I don't hate Apple, I make Apple computers work for a living. I'm typing this on an iBook. But it looks like my next phone will probably be a RAZR v3xx, not an iPhone. And if the iPhone would do what I want, I'd be all over it.

    2. Re:The battery is not replaceable by design. by Dun+Malg · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I suppose in this light it's not really planned obsolescence. Apple just built the iPhone to the minimum specs of the fickle trendy gadget crowd. No, it's planned obsolescence whether the majority are going to chuck it before it dies or not. The fact remains that it was built with a short lifetime in mind, and you simply do not have the option of using it beyond that short lifetime without resorting to drastic measures.
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    3. Re:The battery is not replaceable by design. by confused+one · · Score: 3, Funny

      So it takes a soldering iron to change the battery. That's not exactly making it a challenge for most people on Slashdot, right?

      In my experience there are way too many people who shouldn't be allowed anywhere near a soldering iron.

      Put down the soldering iron and back away. That's right, back away from the soldering iron.
    4. Re:The battery is not replaceable by design. by joto · · Score: 3, Insightful

      My list of why I won't buy one now, and maybe not ever:

      Here is mine:

      1. I already have a phone
      2. My phone is not broken yet
      3. My phone doesn't look like it's going to break soon
      4. Even if I needed a new phone, I'm not convinced it would be my first choice
      5. You can't currently buy the iPhone in Norway
    5. Re:The battery is not replaceable by design. by MilesAttacca · · Score: 2, Funny

      6. This thing is useless without activation. If I decide I don't want Cingular, it's not even an ipod, it's a doorstop.

      It's just a little bit too small to be much of an effective doorstop, I'm afraid.... :P Even if it would be a classy one.

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    6. Re:The battery is not replaceable by design. by rtechie · · Score: 2, Interesting
      So it takes a soldering iron to change the battery. That's not exactly making it a challenge for most people on Slashdot, right?

      No, this is a major hassle and introduces the distinct possibility of frying the motherboard when trying to change the battery. You'll probably be able to send it off to Apple for a nominal fee (or third parties) but it's still hassle. There's also the critical issue of not being able to swap batteries if necessary. For an MP3 player, this doesn't mean much. For a critical business tool like a cellphone/PDA, this is much more significant.

      Not enough storage capacity to be useful as an iPod. I wouldn't mind at all having a hard drive in my phone, I want 80GB, not 8. Weight. Try holding an iPod up to your head (in most respects the form factor is similar to the iPhone). The only HD-based cellphones we are likely to see will be "media" devices (a bit like the iPhone) that REQUIRE a Bluetooth headset.
    7. Re:The battery is not replaceable by design. by pimpimpim · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Removing the battery is still the best way to reboot your phone in case it gets stuck. Just tell me what to do with the iPhone. Or will it, in contrast to any electronic device in the world, never get stuck?

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  10. US$600 well spent on... by sankyuu · · Score: 2, Funny

    1. Unraveling the mystery of the multi-touch screen by peeling it like an onion!
    2. Figuring out if the iPhone has vestiges of unimplemented features (like how they found unused slots on the Mac Mini).
    3. Seeing exactly which parts are from China, Taiwan and Korea.
    4. And most importantly... iPorn! (is what you get when you cause your iPhone to do an iGoatse.)

  11. What do all those parts actually cost? by fedxone-v86 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Mod me flamebait but I'm always interested in comparing the estimated manufacturing costs to the price tags Apple puts on its gadgets.

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  12. Why not just one chip? by Chemisor · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I wonder if some EE guru could answer me what might be a stupid question: what's the point of using a PCB these days instead of just putting everything on the same chip? I highly doubt that anyone would try to repair an iPhone by substituting some component. Hell, we don't even fix TVs any more. There might be some advantage to using a generic component, but once you are making a custom chip, it would seem to be no harder to merge all the others into it. With the architecture being mostly virtual, I doubt there would be any physical design revisions that could be corrected by revising the layout. So why the PCB?

    1. Re:Why not just one chip? by jamesh · · Score: 3, Informative

      I'm not an EE guru, and I know next to nothing about the iPhone, but very standard chips exist for lots of things like 802.11abg, GSM, CDMA, 3G, USB, Bluetooth, LCD/TFT displays, audio, battery charging and monitoring etc. Also, some of these components might be region specific. It makes some sense to keep them separate rather than try and stick everything on the same die, unless you are really pushed for space. Once the thing leaves the factory it may not be repaired, but at the assembly level they may well swap out a bad Bluetooth chip and replace it if required...

      It also allows for (eg) 802.11n ability to be added at a later date if a pin compatible 802.11abgn chip comes on the market, or for them to change display vendors (maybe requiring a different driver chip) if they need to.

    2. Re:Why not just one chip? by dsanfte · · Score: 2, Informative

      The more stuff on a chip, the lower the yields due to failures of individual components, and the more need for a heat spreader. Secondly, putting all the stuff on a chip means it has to be manufactured by a single company, so less cost-savings is to be found than from shopping around for off-the-shelves from China.

      I would also hazard a guess that some of the components on the PCB would simply not fit into an IC.

      That being said, if you really wanted to make an all-in-one-chip iPhone, it's probably possible, minus a few bulky components, but probably not economical. I'm pretty sure they've put the phone together in close to the cheapest way possible given their circumstances.

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    3. Re:Why not just one chip? by Thumper_SVX · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I'm not an EE guru, but it seems to me the reason for discreet chips in a lot of these devices actually serves several purposes.

      Firstly, data speeds between chips might not match; something that's a lot easier to engineer into discreet chips than a single chip with everything on board.

      Secondly, it gives the manufacturer the freedom to switch out components at will. If you dismantle anything from a large embedded device manufacturer, you might find that a single "generation" of a product might go through several iterations of chips simply because the manufacturer was able to source chips from different chip manufacturers for better prices.

      Hell, I know I've seen a number of devices of supposedly the same generation that have had four or five iterations of motherboard and probably more of the chips themselves. Don't kid yourself; manufacturers of these devices are all about maximizing profits, and they do that by keeping their product lines "nimble"

      Third, and as an aside to the second point; fabbing a custom chip is expensive, in time, resources and cost. Most manufacturers will use off the shelf components where possible so that they can keep the costs down. Custom chips tend to be fabbed only where off the shelf solutions don't exist or fail to meet some other engineering goal. The custom chips shown in the iPhone are a prime example of this. Although we don't know for sure what's inside that ARM package (the part numbers seem incongruous), we can guess that they did combine multiple discreet components into that chip package. In the case of the iPhone this was probably done to meet the packaging requirements of the entire device; i.e. Apple wanted a slim and compact device and discreet chips may have taken more space than the engineering team wanted.

      However, the fact that there are several off the shelf chips on the board as well tells me that they were balancing cost and engineering requirements... this almost certainly took a lot of time and it's a nicely engineered solution. I look forward to version 2... which is when I might consider buying one (sorry, tethering and 3G are a big deal for me as I use them daily).

    4. Re:Why not just one chip? by catwh0re · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Many reasons for keeping away from a giant mother chip vs chip division by their function:

      1. Lots of proprietary chips from lots of vendors.
      2. You lose greater economies of scale when engineering custom silicon. Instead of buying existing chips.
      3. It's often easier to contain clock speeds and single-ended capacitance within the boundaries of a chip. Extra electronics is required to buffer the effects of clock/capacitance etc from other components. (I.E. Interference.)
      4. If all the chips are together, then you can't upgrade anything in the next model.
      5. Similar to point 4, if there is a fault, you can't flunk or swap out a chip on the assembly.
      6. Various stability, heat and power savings by using a different chip for each function, e.g. h264 decoding will be on a different chip than the GSM functions.

    5. Re:Why not just one chip? by Bender_ · · Score: 4, Informative


      Ignore all other replies, they are only half truth.

      The truth is: Different manufacturing processes are required depending on the function of the chips. There are many different types of integrated circuits in a cellphone: Logic (processor), analog parts (Silicon and exotic III-V semiconductors), Memory (NAND flash, NOR flash, DRAM), Sensors (think MEMS). Each of these require a different process flow. Combining those is often extremely expensive to impossible.

      The way it is usually done is to use different circuit techniques to achieve the same functionality in a silicon logic process. However in many situations this is not possible or economical, yet.

  13. Uses an ARM Jazelle processor by Sam+Haine+'95 · · Score: 2, Informative

    I see the iPhone uses a 667 MHz ARM processor that's able to execute Java bitecode directly. I wonder what Java performance is like on this thing?

  14. Re:What did slashot do by MightyYar · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The unwashed masses have Paris Hilton, we geeks have the iPhone...

    Still, I'd like one of the editors here to take the attitude toward the iPhone that Mika Brzezinski has towards Paris. This video is quite funny, she was really mad!

    Back to Slashdot - you realize you made the problem worse by clicking on and replying to this story? If the editors are looking at what types of stories lead to more clicks, you've just "voted"! :)

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  15. Re:Almost good enough for me. by sethstorm · · Score: 3, Informative

    Or you can go with an unlocked phone with all that and more. No touchscreen, no lock-in, no lack of 3G, no closed door to third party apps. Gambling for version 2 might not be a good idea.

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  16. Re:Hooray Apple released a phone! by gb506 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Yeah, status symbols for hipsters. And scientists, graphic artists, video producers, health care imaging professionals, audio engineers, photographers, radio broadcasters, software engineers, web developers, former VPs of the United States of America, etc. I suppose those folks could use your platform of choice to do their jobs, but they probably don't want to *need* people like you around to keep them patched and semi-secure. Nor do they want to associate with you, what with the food stained shirts, bad haircuts, and poor overall disposition due to your invariable inability to secure a sex partner.

    STFU and go back to your bag of cheetos.

  17. Also just hours after launch ... by jc42 · · Score: 4, Funny

    I got my first "Congratulations, you have won new iPhone" phishing message, complete with link (to http://203.121.78.200/...) to click on and give them all my personal contact info.

    This is indeed an opportunity for all kinds of modern enterpreneurs.

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  18. Re:This phone is a 2 HAND device vs 1 HAND device by catwh0re · · Score: 4, Informative
    All phone functions can be carried out with one hand. (similar to how you handle an ipod with one hand.)

    More advanced functions such as web browsing and browsing email are far easier with two hands (but if you can be bothered stretching your thumb around, then again you can do it one handed.)

    It's silly to suggest that the iPhone is the only phone that benefits from two hands. (E.g. any phone that uses a stylus requires two hands on the go.) Since many phones do already require two hands to operate them, having a multi-touch display represents better efficiency of the hands (that is, it should speed you along a little bit, touch typing and gesture short cuts are good examples of this.)

  19. NEO1973 by Tony · · Score: 4, Informative

    Sounds like you want a FIC NEO1973. According to Sean Moss-Pultz in his most recent announcement, the consumer model due in Q4 this year will include wifi.

    It's almost fully open. As in, everything is open except the AGPS daemon, which you don't need for GPS, just AGPS.

    And it'll only be $450, for the phone itself. No contracts required.

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  20. Re:Hooray Apple released a phone! by kestasjk · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I love reading peoples opinions all the more when they're given in a sentence that starts with "Newsflash".

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  21. ifixit has a much better takeapart... by dreemkill · · Score: 5, Informative

    http://stream.ifixit.com/

    they did it some time yesterday, about an hour after it came out i think.

    and by the looks of it, they didn't destroy it.

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  22. Re:This phone is a 2 HAND device vs 1 HAND device by filterban · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Q: Name one smartphone that can effectively be used with one hand.

    A: You can't. They all have this same characteristic - whether it's a stylus (Treo) or a Crackberry, they all require two hands for effective operation.

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  23. Re:Hooray Apple released a phone! by WhatAmIDoingHere · · Score: 2, Informative

    "Why does Apple hate DRM on audio, but not on Software or Video?"

    Their OS includes no activation or DRM.

    Learn things.

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  24. Greenphone by root_42 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    And while we're at it: Trolltech also sells the Greenphone, a Linux-based phone running Qtopia. This is not really for end-users, but meant as a development platform for Qtopia applications. I find it very neat. Smaller screen than iPhone and the NEO, but still very nice! Have a look at:

      http://trolltech.com/products/qtopia/greenphone

    And yes, the software is GPL'ed when you buy the community edition of the phone.

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  25. Non-replaceable batteries are Greener by Jeremy_Bee · · Score: 5, Insightful

    More planned obsolescence. Pity. I'd like to see Apple go a little greener. A non-user replaceable battery limits the life of a device substantially. The Apple strategy with non-replaceable batteries could actually be considered the greener option.

    I still have a pile of the various PDA's and cell phones I have had over the years. Most used undersized batteries that reduced the initial cost of the unit (even though most cost about the same as today's iPhone), but also didn't last. This required me to purchase new batteries, extra batteries, and bigger, add-on batteries and battery packs. All of these batteries are in the same pile, waiting for me to find appropriate green disposal (some day).

    I would argue that most people eventually just chuck these things away and that they end up in a landfill somewhere. Also the fact that the batteries are generally crap means that the average user goes through more batteries for a non-Apple "replaceable battery" product than they do for the Apple product.

    The fact that Apple offers a low-cost, no-hassle, battery replacement option means that the majority of iPod and now iPhone), battery replacements happen through Apple instead of the consumer, and thus the batteries all get properly recycled instead of just being dumped. The main cause of battery pollution from iPods for instance is whatever portion of the populace that does not return them to Apple for replacement or recycling and just chucks the item away when it's dead. That is the consumer's fault, not Apple's.

    The only thing that could be done better is that Apple could take back the old iPods so as to alleviate even the worst acts of the consumers of their products. They already do this in a limited way and have announced recently a goal of doing a take-back on every product they make.

    How much more green could they possibly be right now?

  26. 3G version launch for UK on Monday by nighty5 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    "A new 3G (European) version of the iPhone will be launched Monday in the UK by Apple - in a join promotion with Vodafone, T-Mobile of Germany, and Carphone Warehouse. It should answer the disappointment with the US version of the iPhone which has been widely slammed for its poor performance as a phone."

    http://www.newswireless.net/index.cfm/article/3466

    If this is indeed true, it will certainly be what the market needs. I am surprised the US market would tolerate paying so much for a 2G phone.

    Sounds like the US market is behind the 8 ball, with a couple of years to wait for a 3G - time will be indeed telling.

  27. Re:This phone is a 2 HAND device vs 1 HAND device by soft_guy · · Score: 2, Informative

    It depends on what you are trying to do. I bought two iPhones last night - one for me and one for my daughter. I am typing this reply on the iPhone right now.

    I can easily call someone with one hand (using my thumb to touch the display). I am using two hands to type this message though. Also, the software keyboard on the iPhone is easier in my opinion to type on than the keyboard on my old Treo 600.

    I'm not saying the device is perfect, but it does live up to the hype.

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  28. Re:Touch screen display by Rytr23 · · Score: 2, Informative

    The touch screen works like a charm, the interface is really fabulous and functional.. and I would think that after a year it will still be going strong.. unless you have fingers made of stone flesh.. I avoided touchscreens after seeing the terrible wear on my treo's touchscreen years ago after relatively light stylus usage.. Then again, I cannot attest to the long term viability of capacitive touchscreens.. Anyone know about them? Do they "lose" sensitivity after use/time?

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  29. Re:Hooray Apple released a phone! by dosquatch · · Score: 2, Funny

    Technically they have never made a real computer...more like status symbols for smug, self-absorbed wannabe hipsters.

    If you don't know what Cmd-Shft-TacoBellGrande is for, GTFO!

    If you don't know what Cmd-Shft--- whaddayamean, I forgot to tick "Anonymous"?

    AWWWW, FUCK! Delete! Delete!

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  30. Re:Hooray Apple released a phone! by Lars+T. · · Score: 2, Informative

    Of course, it does require a special chip on a motherboard made specifically by Apple to boot up or install. How is that not DRM? You mean the chip that isn't found in the latest Macs? The one that keeps those Macs from running Mac OS X, and that is never accessed by Mac OS X?
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