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Visualizing "Answer People" In Online Discussions

Marc Smith writes "'Answer people,' the folks who contribute much of the value in the Internet, are a small minority of all online users. According to a recent paper my co-authors and I have published in the Journal of Social Structure, less than 2% of authors in Usenet newsgroups are likely to be the helpful 'answer person' type — authors who reply to many other people with brief replies. The paper Visualizing the Signatures of Social Roles in Online Discussion Groups contains social network visualizations of the ties created when authors reply to one another. These images highlight the difference between these helpful folks and other types of contributors. The findings may apply to other threaded discussions, maybe even here at Slashdot."

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  1. And yet ... by WrongSizeGlass · · Score: 3, Insightful

    less than 2% of authors in Usenet newsgroups are likely to be the helpful 'answer person' type And the other 98% think they're helpful 'answer people'.
    1. Re:And yet ... by Aladrin · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Mod this insightful!

      No, not because it's insightful on purpose, but because it's an accurate representation of how most of that 98% think. For some reason, they honestly believe that they -deserve- an answer just because they post a question.

      I'm talking about the people that post things like 'What, 98 views and nobody answers my damn question!?' and 'Doesn't anyone know the answer?' and 'HEY I NEED HELP HERE AND HURRY UP'.

      I'm an answer person. I actively enjoy helping other people. I'm not a selfless do-gooder, though. I do it because I'm happy when I make others happy. A selfless do-gooder would take all the abuse on forums without losing his top. They'd answer the question, even if the person was ignorant and rude. That's not me, because rude jerks don't give me that feeling of pride and happiness, but instead make me feel used and unappreciated.

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    2. Re:And yet ... by digitalsushi · · Score: 5, Insightful

      you can tell an answer person for real when an answer person asks a question, gets no reply, and then answers their own post with the solution a few days later.

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  2. End of Conversation by weinrich · · Score: 3, Insightful

    only 2% of authors in Usenet newsgroups are likely to be the helpful 'answer person' type -- authors who reply to many other people with brief replies. Another typical marker for an 'answer person' posting is the fact that the conversation (usually a random flurry of replies to the original question) usually stops quickly once they chime in, as everyone else recognizes that their answer is correct and complete.
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  3. Yahoo makes money off these people. by binaryspiral · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Answer people enjoy solving problems and helping people. I won't consider myself one, but I do get a sense of accomplishment when I can help someone solve a problem or further a discussion.

    And yet, Yahoo and other online corporations are (imho) exploiting these people by establishing "Answer" areas that reward people for answering questions with useless points. Do they get compensation or a cut of the advertising profits that yahoo is making on them? No. They get honor points.

    Yahoo makes a mint on the viewership of the site and the answer people get a warm feeling... maybe it breaks even. I stopped answering questions after reading the hundredth obvious "I don't want to do my homework, so I'll ask it here" question.

    At least sites like ePinions.com rewards it's reviewers with a pittance of the revenue their reviews generate.

    1. Re:Yahoo makes money off these people. by Khaed · · Score: 3, Insightful

      And yet, Yahoo and other online corporations are (imho) exploiting these people by establishing "Answer" areas that reward people for answering questions with useless points. Do they get compensation or a cut of the advertising profits that yahoo is making on them? No. They get honor points.

      then don't go to Yahoo! Answers and offer your services. It's not like you can't tell they're making money. I personally don't think Yahoo deserves my time, and they don't deserve to make money off my knowledge, so I don't go there and answer questions. But some people apparently don't care -- hey, their choice.

  4. Karmic Value by Original+Replica · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "More generally, an answer person's apparent altruism provides an important explanatory challenge for models of collective action raising the possibility that people may be contributing to public goods for social goods like status "

    Well yes people like to be favorably for contributing positively. Is greater status wrong in the light of greater contribution? http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/06/03/194722 7

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  5. Long answer people by Craig+Ringer · · Score: 3, Insightful

    One doesn't have to write lots of brief replies to be useful.

    Some of the most important and helpful - if less frequent - responses are ones that are longer explanations of complex problems or concepts. Disregarding these from consideration is ... interesting.

  6. Cheap replacement for traditional customer service by throatmonster · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Message boards, email discussion lists, etc. are used by an awful lot of companies as a cheap substitute for providing real support for their products. Go to some company's Support web page: you have 3-4 basic options:

    1. Buy a $upport contract or pay-per-incidence
    2. Free email support! It only takes 3-5 business days to get an unhelpful reply.
    3. Visit our support forums. There are plenty of suckers out there who have already bought our product and figured it out, no thanks to us. Get your answer from them because, hey, they supply the knowledge for free and it only costs us a few $ to maintain the support forum!

    Of course if you really do have some sticky problem, or a valid complaint, well, the support forums are not an officially recognized means of communication to the company. Having said that, we'll still delete posts/threads and bar any whiners that make us look bad. So, back to #1 if you really do need technical support.

    I used to be an "answer" guy on a couple of mail lists. Not anymore. Why? because I've moved beyond the products I used to know a lot about. Now I ask the questions for new products I'm learning. That, and the fact that I've realized how much I've "given away" and not gotten anything back from. If I'm going to waste my time, it might as well be on slashdot.

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  7. Re:Paying Them by anubi · · Score: 2, Insightful
    You have an interesting take on it.

    Its been my observation that "trying to be useful", regardless of its economic rewards, seems to be inbred in some of us. Maybe its some sort of genetic thing. I cite the entire concept of open-source as my evidence. Some of the best minds in the industry literally give themselves to the public - a "Mother Teresa" type thing, meant in the best of hopes of sharing in the hopes of providing public display of a concept that should work. The Bible is full of it.

    Payments attract the capitalists, not the philanthropists.

    Capitalists are some of the greediest, self-centered, hated people on Earth. And for good reason.

    Much of us who are of an unselfish "giving" nature are of the idea that everyone who has a gift of doing whatever shares, there will be more than enough to go around.

    We tend to give to religions, although I personally want to give to the public-at-large - sharing what I have as my way of saying "thank you" to the people who shared with me. It doesn't have to be, and likely isn't, the same people.

    As the saying goes: "What goes around, comes around", which to me is a biblical paraphrase of "Do unto others as you would have others do unto you.".

    If I was in a position of hiring others, I would make it my prime priority to have people of this ilk on my team.

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  8. Re:Wait, I'm confused... by value_added · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Some Usenet groups have degraded into nothing but spam havens, and some have just died from lack of traffic. But there are a few that continue to be valuable sources of info. I personally find value in following comp.ai, comp.ai.genetic ...

    The entire comp. hierarchy is valuable. For those interested in programming, for example, comp.lang.c, comp.lang.perl.misc, comp.unix.shell are additional groups that alive and kicking and more valuable to just about anyone than most of the rubbish found on the web. For Windows users, the microsoft.public* hierarchy is similarly valuable. So much so that Microsoft themselves offer it as a "service" (LOL) for their users, albeit with a specially designed web front-end.

    Spam has always been a problem on USENET, but for those groups where there's lots of activity, it's a minor nuisance. For other groups, the denizens just move on to another empty group.

    As for the original deteriorated into porn images, complaint, well, that's a plus for some, right? There's terrabytes of binary data flowing through usenet on a daily basis, so everyone is free to download as much or as little as they want. IMHO, it puts P2P sharing to shame. Then, again, it could be the OP is using their ISP's NNTP servers, so he doesn't get the groups or the binaries or the retention that the rest of us do for a few bucks a month.

  9. Frustration by hack++slash · · Score: 2, Insightful

    One of the problems of being an 'answer person' (I like trying to help people get the right & correct information, and yes I've often posted a question only to answer it myself later that week) is when things get technical to a point where the answer is over the head of the knowledge seeker, they'll often expect you to 'babysit' them through some technical problems you worked out yourself with a little dilligence.
    If they're not prepared to put some time into using the initial information you've given them to learn what they have to do, I'm not really prepared to put my time into holding their hand through every step of the process involved., especially if the process is complicated and very involved.

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    A: There's a limit to intelligence.

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  10. Re:Wait, I'm confused... by yada21 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    For some reason, people seem to feel inhibited about sending emails to 100 recipients, but less so about posting to a newsgroup.
    My experience with corporate email is quite the opposite. You get idiots who include half the organisation on everything they send when in fact, there's one person who needs to know and three who are vaguely interested.
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