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Microsoft Doesn't Care About Destroying Linux

techie writes "A latest column on MadPenguin.org suggests that Microsoft may not be really interested in killing Linux for mainstream users. It's after something else, and it's getting its way already. Read on to find out what it is. The author states, "Love it or hate it, Microsoft's IP attacks will continue, Linux user numbers will continue to grow and broad spectrum adoption throughout the rest of the world will grow and flourish. Microsoft's not interested in destroying Linux in the slightest. Why would they? it's been a fantastic vehicle for them to land a firmer grip on the corporations throughout the US."

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  1. Windows needs something to denigrate... by Pig+Hogger · · Score: 4, Insightful
    It makes sense. Without something to denigrate, what Microsoft could do? How could Microsoft claim to be "better"?

    For many business managers that went to business schools who know fuck-all about IT, it's very easy to believe that something that is "free" in both senses of the word is not good. After all, business is about control and profit, two things that are absent from "free".

    1. Re:Windows needs something to denigrate... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      If the goal of IT management is running a cost effective operation, Linux has some advantages. However, if the real goal is preservation of budget and headcount, Windows is the way to go. Sometimes, the easiest money to get your hands on is the "non-discretionary" cash you need to maintain the status quo. Notice how IT management is quite content to outsource work to India and elsewhere, so long as the original IT management is still in charge of the projects and the bodies performing the work. Delivering IT systems and services is secondary; maintaining "control" is job 1. Rock the boat by making some of that infrastructure unnecessary, and you will have to beg and plead for every dollar -- even if you have day-1 savings that more than cover what you want to do.

      Bear in mind, that reducing headcount means one-time expenses related to severance, etc. And savings on license fees will take at least a few months to hit the bottom line (sometimes longer). In most cases, it takes at least a year to show the savings to be had by dumping MS. It may very well be worth doing, but the first year is not going to put big savings onto the scoreboard. And it may take a while before users discovers that things work more smoothly than before. In the short run, dumping MS might be a rough ride.

      Sadly, it is the people who don't spend much money who are often taken for granted. In many companies, the path to success in management is to grow your budget and headcount faster than anyone else.

      I have met a whole generation of IT professionals who like what MS does for their careers more than it does for their business.

  2. Re:Great, you know what that means by monk.e.boy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Microsoft need to make money. Not kill Linux.

    If they could see a way to make more money by working with Linux, they'd do that. Hell, they're not that stupid ;-)

    Just stating the obvious.

    monk.e.boy

  3. No Reason to be afraid. by jshriverWVU · · Score: 4, Insightful
    As long as OEM's keep selling machines with windows preinstalled, I seriously doubt if MS cares if you clean it and load Ubuntu on the machine. They still got their $75 for the license.

    That's one reason I respect Dell for having the guts to sell machines with Linux preinstalled.

  4. Only Part of the article by stretch0611 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The article is pathetic. The author makes a haphazard attempt to explain the current situation then draws his conclusion. He does not explain how he arrived at that conclusion or give any evidence. The Psychic Friends network gives better supporting evidence.

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    1. Re:Only Part of the article by Shotgun · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Spot on, dude.

      Even worse, the conclusion he draws doesn't even make sense. Linux helps Windows domination in the enterprise (where it is a monopoly) when users switch to it at home (where Windows is also a monopoly)? How-d-hell does that work?

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  5. It's important not to crush all your enemies by gelfling · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Redmond doesn't want to obliterate all comers such as Linux and Apple because that would trigger yet more legislation and court cases. Redmond has to 'suffer' a 10% or 15% market share to its competitors in order to preserve the illusion of a loyal opposition.

  6. TFA makes no sense. by kripkenstein · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Microsoft's not interested in destroying Linux in the slightest. Why would they? it's been a fantastic vehicle for them to land a firmer grip on the corporations throughout the US.
    That makes no sense whatsoever. How can their grip be any firmer than having a monopoly on all the software that is used by corporate America?
  7. Linux Good for MS by tjstork · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Linux provides Microsoft with a competitive reason to further intertwine its entire Windows software stack into a set of offerings targetted directly to different users. I imagine, in the future, there will be Windows : Developer Edition, that comes with some sort of Vista Pro and Visual Studio, or Windows : Home Edition, the comes with some sort of integration with XBox 360 integration and a slew of built in game subscriptions.

    These moves would shut out or down Windows ISVs, but would provide a bit more revenue growth for Microsoft. Were someone to cry anti-trust foul, Microsoft could, and has, pointed to Linux as a real competitor. This isn't unlikely. When Linux couldn't even run with many kinds of mice and had little hardware graphics acceleration, Microsoft claimed they were a competitor during the Netscape trial.

    It's the Dunkin Donuts defense, and it works. The backstory is that Dunkin Donuts drove Amy Joy out of business, but argued that it wasn't a monopoly because you could still buy donuts from Entemanns and other local bakeries. Microsoft is doing the same thing.

    And, the other thing, too, is that the consumer OS space really doesn't have much room for MS. Consumers generally don't go to the store to buy operating systems, all the MS money is in preloads. So, if consumers do switch to Linux, MS has already collected its first payment. Then, as most consumers do, they switch back to Windows, by going to the store and buying a copy of something like Vista. In other words, the more frequently a user switches back and forth between Windows and Linux, the more likely they will make Microsoft even more money.

    So they don't want to support Linux, but they don't want to quite kill it off either.

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  8. Non-sequitur by mcrbids · · Score: 4, Insightful

    TFA is a complete and utter waste of time to read. It doesn't make sense to itself. It's something like:

    Microsoft doesn't care about Linux because people are starting to use it more and more, but not as much in America and America is going to hell in a handbasket so Microsoft really doesn't care if Linux eats their lunch if they do it slower and that helps Microsoft get to the corporations with Ubuntu in their back pocket. /TRIPE.

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  9. Riding the Wave by _Sprocket_ · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Microsoft's fortune was made on riding the wave - making money off the shift in the industry from proprietary hardware platforms to commodity based platforms. IBM was the big loser as it lost control of the platform they made popular. Meanwhile, every single (or close enough) "PC" was a payment to Microsoft no matter if it was IBM, Compaq, or Joe's Whitebox Store.

    Linux is a large part of the next wave - shifting the OS as proprietary product to commodity platform. But instead of IBM, this shift directly threatens not only Microsoft's core products but a large portion of their business model (and development). Microsoft is looking for a way to get on top of this wave as well.

    The IP shennanigans going on is simply Microsoft's attempt to gain control of Linux and hash out a way so that every commodity hardware platform that runs a commodity OS (specifically Linux) also includes a payment to Microsoft.

  10. Re:It's talk, wait for action by quanticle · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Microsoft is forever expanding into new markets because Windows and Office aren't the "revenue streams" they used to be, and eventually they will be trying to get money from people using Linux.

    If they really wanted revenue from Linux users they would come out with Office for Linux. However, that's not what they want. The want to keep businesses locked into using Windows on the desktop and the server, hence the flood of patent litigation threats. This is just the latest iteration in their campaign to spread fear, uncertainty, and doubt.

    First they claimed that Linux was unreliable. Then they claimed that it was insecure. Now they're claiming that it allows for intellectual property violations. This isn't a change in strategy, just an adjustment in tactics. Their long term goal is still to scare businesses away from Linux.

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  11. New, improved and content-free. by C10H14N2 · · Score: 5, Funny


    Article summary:

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  12. not ready for the desktop by stim · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm sorry but I have said this a thousand times, windows is not ready for the desktop. Every so often I install the newest incarnation XP, vista, what have you, hoping that they have gotten their act together but they have not. Until MS can make an operating system that 'just works' without grepping through cryptic registry keys or deciding what antivirus/spyware programs to run it just won't be good enough for grandma. And don't get me started on package management! Theres no standard way to install software, do I click setup.exe, setup.msi , install.bat ? Windows has come a long way, maybe 2008 will be the year of the MS Desktop. if you mod me funny instead of insightful then your a jerk!

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  13. Standard FUD Play by rlp · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's a bluff - if Microsoft went after say, Red Hat, they'd have to name the patents that were being "infringed". That would cause:

    1) Many of the patents to be invalidated due to prior art.
    2) OSS programmers to code around the "infringing" patents.
    3) IBM (and it's huge patent portfolio) to come after Microsoft. Since
          IBM has a huge vested interested in Linux.
    4) Enormously BAD publicity for Microsoft, and call for actual enforcement
          of the antitrust ruling against them.

    It would be an extremely self-destructive move. By talking about infringement (but not doing
    anything), they cast doubt over the competition and even get some gullible corporations to cough
    up some cash (woah! free money!). It's a FUD play, fairly standard in Microsoft's (anti-)
    competitive playbook.

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  14. Four basic package managers. by khasim · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Really? How many package managers? Some use apt-get, others RPM whatever.

    rpm
    apt
    slackware's pkgtool
    gentoo's emerge

    And learning them would be included in the single day it would take for anyone familiar with any distribution to learn a different distribution.

    How many desktops?

    So it seems that you're trying to define "fragmentation" as "choices".

    Why is that?

    No one refers to the car market as "fragmented" just because you can buy a Ford OR a Chevy.

    And if you buy a Chevy you can get a sports car OR a pickup truck OR an SUV.

    And you can get them in manual OR automatic.

    "Choice" is not "fragmentation". Learning to drive a manual pickup truck does not prevent you from learning to drive an automatic sports car. And the learning process will take less than a day.