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Ubuntu Dell $50 Cheaper Than Vista Dell

rhinokitty writes "Dell recently announced that their Ubuntu systems will be $50 cheaper than similar systems running Vista (Home Basic Edition). This will be a good fork in the road for those people who need a little extra push to take hold of their dreams and run Linux."

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  1. Re:Is Ubuntu good? by fonik · · Score: 3, Interesting

    My little brother just installed Ubuntu on his home machine. He's in the 8th grade and his windows installation had to be wiped after the ISP threatened to shut down his internet service because of all the botware. I'd say it's a pretty easy distro.

  2. Re:Is Ubuntu good? by Tribbin · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It's the distro I install for all my friends.

    When I reinstall Windows for a friend, I put Ubuntu on their computer next to windows and tell them to boot it if windows fails again.

    It takes a couple of months before they really need to fall back on it. And in the meanwhile, at moments when they feel brave, they take a peek in the rabbithole.

    And they confirm; Ubuntu does a great job for a fresh user.

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  3. Re:$50? by fonik · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Heh, yeah.

    I like the part of the www.dell.com/open site where it asks you if you are there by mistake and suggests you go back to looking at Windows machines.

    The main thing to note is that when you choose open source you don't get a Windows® operating system. If you're here by mistake and you are looking for a Dell PC with Windows, please use the following link.

    Shop Dell PCs with Windows
    They even put the link to their Windows machines BEFORE the link to the Ubuntu machines. If you were selling cars and someone showed interest in an import, would you ask, "Are you SURE you want to buy one of THOSE?" Their machines work great, but the website is serious WTF material.
  4. Total Cost of Ownership by Repossessed · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Doing a quick one over of the systems available, for a 15 inch screen, you're looking at 1,194 dollars for a minimum Vista notebook with full performance. (2 gigs of RAM, and a 2 GHz dual core processor). A 15 inch Ubuntu notebook, will cost you just 599 dollars. Thanks to the low hardware requirements of Linux systems. (It's quite literally twice as powerful as the desktop I'm typing from now.) There's a couple caveats there, in that I'm not sure if the optical drive and hard drive are comparable between the two. (i'm too lazy too check). And that for a desktop, the price difference won;t be as bad. (An acceptable processor and RAM for Vista gets very expensive for the notebooks, not as much so as for the desktops.) I'm also not sure how long this will last, Dell is still shipping the old 1505s for Ubuntu, the price will probably go up if they start using 1520s instead. (There's no appreciable difference in specs that I can find, though this may change once better Intel processors come out (the 1520 uses a different socket type.)). Oh, and if you want the fancy graphics stuff for Vista, you're going to need another 230 dollars (30 for the software and 200 for a 256 megabyte graphics card.) I'm not sure how much of a hardware upgrade it would take to run the 3D desktop options for Linux though, so I have no point of comparison to make there.

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  5. HP has been doing something simila for a while by EjectButton · · Score: 3, Interesting

    While it is a good first step that Dell is selling Ubuntu machines, and not charging you (as much) for a license that you aren't even purchasing, HP has been doing this for quite a while though they don't seem to get much press for it.

    If you look at hp laptops and desktops in their "business" section many of them will list "FreeDOS" as an available os, or if they have a "Configure PC" link under the model often times it means you can choose between Windows and FreeDOS in the configuration options. One difference may be that if you get a FreeDOS pc from HP, format the drive and put Linux on it HP probably isn't going to give you any software support whereas maby Dell (or Canonical?) offers some level of support included in their price. Though if you are willing to forgo softwate technical support and just want hardware warranty coverage (for example if you are a large institution purchasing many computers is bulk) you can get a larger discount for non-windows machines from HP than Dell. The price varies but for most of their business notebooks and desktops the difference between a model with Windows XP/Vista and that same model with FreeDOS is usually $75-$150

    Hopefully Dell's apparent success in selling Ubuntu desktops (and the publicity that has come with it) will push HP into doing something similar, I am a bit surprised Dell beat them to the punch on this one considering HP has:
    been encouraging the use of Debian on the server end for a while
    http://h20331.www2.hp.com/services/cache/442406-0- 0-0-121.html

    Already provides good driver support for Linux with regard to printers
    http://hplip.sourceforge.net/

    And the current "Linux CTO" is a former Debian project leader
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bdale_Garbee

    I would expect to see more announcements like this in the near future from the OEMs. Whatever argument the OEMs still had against selling desktop Linux and thereby irritating Microsoft was recently dealt a significant blow by Microsoft's announcement that they would begin selling their own machines http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/06/ 28/181204
    which from the OEMs perspective has changed Microsoft from an annoying element that everyone has to deal with and who gets a cut of their profit, to a company that is now moving towards being a direct competitor.

  6. Re:What this really means by Eivind · · Score: 5, Interesting
    But there are several trends coming together. Each individual one may not count for much, but the sum total is still starting to look interesting.
    • The average price of new computers is falling.
    • The price of Windows, both in pure dollars and in requirements is rising sharply.
    • Linux is getting easier and easier for the non-geeks to use.
    • You can get pre-installed Linux from vendors people have heard of. This matters.
    • There's a large amount (though not as large as I'd like) of articles and news-coverage of consumer-hostile "features" in Vista.
    • There is a distinct lack of *advantage* for a consumer moving from XP to Vista, in other words, MS has done next to *nothing* worthwhile for a consumer in the last 5-6 years.
    • Vista has horrible hardware-support. Of the 5 usb-gadgets that my wife uses, 2 failed to work with Vista. For one, an Epson-scanner, the status is: "Drivers will be released in february". Meanwhile, Linux supports more hardware out-of-the-box than any other operating-system ever has. (though not more than XP plus additional drivers)

    None of these are deal-breakers, really. And most people will certainly buy the "default" choice, Vista, without really giving it second thougths. But *some* will start thinking.

    Linux certainly won't displace Windows on the desktop this year, or the next. But it'll continue doing what it's been doing quietly for years already: growing.

  7. Re:"Take hold of their dreams"? by FST777 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Actually, I do. I generally have a 4G FreeDOS partition somewhere on my drives. It's one of the four OS'es I have on my system. I use it to troubleshoot, run old games, inspect old floppies, create those whacky Compaq BIOS floppies for some old systems I encounter, etc. Quite usefull at times (and DOS has its beauties). Besides that, the partition is used to swap data between FreeBSD, openSUSE and WinXP.

    Your main point stands though.

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  8. Re:I'll take Vista thanks :-) by LingNoi · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The fact you may get too many of them on Vista usually signifies improperly setup account, or poorly written software.
    Yes, its always the developers fault. Poor drivers on Vista? Nvidia's fault. Too many security alerts? Software Developers fault. BSOD when plugging in a scanner? Driver makers fault.

    Lets face it Windows users never question why their most essential piece of software should be so easily broken and unrecoverable without re-installation, but lets face it they never will. They'll happily go on blaming Nvidia for their late drivers while it took Microsoft 2 years just to design the damn shutdown button.

    Please do go ahead and blame anyone you want for why your system sucks but I will never find it acceptable for my operating system to be so prone to errors and unrecoverable from a system failure whether it is Windows, Ubuntu or Mac.