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Open Source Linux Phone Goes On Sale

An anonymous reader writes "Sean Moss-Pultz has just announced on the OpenMoko mailing list that the Neo1973 is finally available for purchase. OpenMoko.com is now taking orders via credit card. OpenMoko intends to 'free your phone' through a hardware-independent and open source user interface backed by the Linux kernel. This device could very well stand as a competitor to the more expensive Apple iPhone, but at a fraction of the price and with no vendor lock-in. Although the devices in this release cycle (GTA01) are mainly intended for developers, the up-and-coming devices targeted to the consumer market (GTA02) will also feature WiFi capabilities, a 3D acceleration unit, and 256MB of on-board flash. Both units will use the MicroSD card interface for removable storage and have USB client / host capabilities. For a full feature list, check out OpenMoko.com or the OpenMoko Wiki."

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  1. Awesome by nicolas.kassis · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I really want a linux phone. It's pretty cheap at 300$. One thing bothers me, do providers allow random phones to be used on there network? Do some cellular providers block phones that they don't approve off?

    1. Re:Awesome by dacarr · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Good question. I do this for a living for the data side.

      Short version: $gsm_carrier can provide the settings, but while it usually works, it's not guaranteed to work, and they don't acutally support the phone.

      Long version is like this - as long as $gsm_phone is unlocked, then $gsm_carrier can usually get it working without too much effort, and will talk you, the user, through the process - but it comes with no guarantee that it will actually work on the network. Some phones have odd quirks, and don't always work. Voice is usually no big issue, and my understanding is something like "just add SIM card and a few button presses, and it'll Just Work" - but, since data and voice are effectively two different parts of any GSM network (and I do data only), I could be wrong. For data, you will have to provide the data service gateway (usually an IP address), an access point name, and a MMS center for multimedia messaging. Either way, if the phone still doesn't want to work, you'll need to call $gsm_phone_maker for help.

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  2. What a deal! by BlakeReid · · Score: 3, Interesting
    FTA:

    Direct from openmoko.com, the price will be $450 for the Neo Base and $600 for Neo
    Advanced.


    Hard to tell from the press release which mass market (GTA02) model (if either) is really close to feature parity with the iPhone, but if you compare the two top end models, the price is the same.

    This device could very well stand as a competitor to the more expensive Apple iPhone, but at a fraction of the price and with no vendor lock-in.


    If by fraction you mean 1/1, I guess so.
  3. An interface called "Shake"? by jx100 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The inclusion of a 3D accelerometer intrigues me. I'm guessing/hoping there are plans to integrate this into some sort of user interface. An interface designed at least partially around physically moving the unit would be great to have on something as small as a cellphone, as it would reduce the need for thumb-typing or any other kind of extreme dexterity

  4. Opnemoko versus iPhone by hoppy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    There is an interesting comparison between the OpenMoko and the iPhone. The iPhone hardware gives more power but may be the openness of the OpenMoko can provide better user experience with adaptability lacking in the iPhone ?
      http://aptustech.com/?q=node/9

    Can the Openmoko challenge the iPhone ? Does the opensource philosophy can overcome one of the best designed phone ?

  5. Apple got it wrong (but may still win) by nanosquid · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This smacks of the same sort of complaint-response attitude that drives the also-ran category in the music player market.

    Possibly. Or possibly Apple got it wrong with the iPhone. Or possibly Apple got it wrong and they are still going to win through monopolistic practices and marketing. All one can do is try to develop a better product and see whether one can compete.

    Wake me when it syncs with iTunes and automatically pulls my contacts, music, movies, TV shows, and calendar.

    Why the hell would I want to sync with anything on my desktop? I want to sync with Yahoo! and Google and eMusic and Democracy and applications like those, over the air, without having to rely on a flaky and bulky desktop PC or Mac and without having a costly .Mac subscription. The iPhone view of the world is broken as far as I'm concerned.

  6. Symbian vs. Linux by MBHkewl · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The only mobile phones that I ever owned were the Nokia Communicator series (9110i, 9250 & 9500), and I am SICK of Symbian. Yes, the keyboard is very nice, but the crappy OS which crashes on very inconvenient times is just too much. When I pay $900 for a phone, I expect it to work for at least 3 years before crapping on me.

    Nokia has moved away from reliability long time ago and got on the fancy-wagon. Their new E90 phone (new communicator) is very sexy, especially with the built-in GPS chip, but I guess I'll make a sacrifice for a phone that is willing to give what I had paid for.

    I've been waiting for a very long time for a Linux phone, 3 more months won't make much of a difference.

    Nokia: UP YOURS!

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  7. Motorola MING A1200 by ehiris · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I wonder how this compares to the Motorla MING which claims to be Linux-based also.

  8. Re:Here's an easy prediction: by TheSciBoy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    WHY would carriers want this thing on their networks again?

    Because WiFi only covers a nanopercent of the area that GSM/3G covers. This means that any service you provide via WiFi, you'll also want to be able to use over EDGE/HDSPA/GPRS/whatever which uses the network and generates revenue. You'll also be using it to make calls.

    In general, a carrier will just want you to have something connected to their network that you want to use and which you'll want to use a lot. I, for one, mostly just use my phone for SMS and actual phone conversations, but if I could get the phone to use WiFi for e-mail/messaging (ICQ+MSN) then I would be more likely to accept a few bytes flying over GPRS or something to get those messages when WiFi is not available. A lot more willing than I would be knowing that ALL of that data goes over an expensive network.

    The only thing I'm worried about is the potential for hackers to hack the network stacks and trying to get free phone calls/data transfers with this device. If that happens it will be banned faster than you can say iPhone.

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  9. Stylus? by xdotx · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Wasn't this originally supposed to be all touch screen... as in with fingers, no stylus and what-not? They're providing a stylus which seems to imply they've given up on the idea (I know they were having a lot of trouble with it previously). I'd rather the stylus-free approach than an overpowered stylus; although, I can't say I'd complain much if I got the latter.

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  10. Re:Sounds great, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Yes everything we wanted... except it looks stupid. It's stubby vs. slim slender and sleek which is what everyone is marketing these days. But other than that... yeah it's friggin' AWESOME.

  11. SIM toolkit? by Yenya · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I am eager to replace my current phone with Openmoko. However, I use a SIM Toolkit application for my banking. I wanted to look up whether Openmoko plans some STK support, but I have only found this post in gsmd-devel archives from March. Does anybody know what is the state of SIM Toolkit support in Openmoko?

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  12. Sometimes they are trying to screw you... by SanityInAnarchy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Here's an example: Ring tones. Ring tones, wallpapers, screensavers, and assorted bullshit. The typical way you get this on a closed phone is, you dial some number you saw on TV, and you get charged something like $1 to download some tiny fragment of a song you doubtless already bought on CD.

    On an open phone, you just rip the CD, then send the file to your phone -- like you would with an iPod, say.

    The real reason for DRM -- not that people listen when I point this out -- is to be able to do crap like that. Sell you the same song five times -- once on a CD (which can ONLY be played on CD players, and not even all of them), again for your iPod, again as a ringtone on your phone, again as a soundtrack for your game console, and a fifth time because you'll lose one of the others and can't make backups.

    But I don't think developers are going to create an amazing consumer application. If we do, someone will find a way to charge everyone on a "normal" phone to get the same thing. I'd settle for an amazing developer phone, and if we do create something useful, and users buy the phone and download our useful software, more power to them. I just want something I can hack.

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  13. The real reason: iPhone by SanityInAnarchy · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The iPhone already has accelerometers, and the reason is simple: It can then figure out when you flip it on its side. Thus, it automatically changes the interfaces to reflect whether you're holding it vertically or horizontally. Combine that with other sensors, and it can figure out when you're holding it to your ear (and thus disable the display).

    Others have already mentioned a lot of the creative things that could be done with it beyond that, so I'll mention one -- scrolling. Put simply, if it's accurate enough, imagine having a document that is digitally the size of a wall -- rather than scrolling through it, you simply move the phone around the document.

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