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World's Fastest Broadband Connection — 40 Gbps

paulraps writes "A 75-year-old woman from Karlstad in central Sweden has been given a scorching 40 Gbps internet connection — the fastest residential connection anywhere in the world. Sigbritt Löthberg is the mother of Swedish internet guru Peter Löthberg, who is using his mother to prove that fiber networks can deliver a cost-effective, ultra-fast connection. Sigbritt, who has never owned a computer before, can now watch 1,500 HDTV channels simultaneously or download a whole high definition DVD in two seconds. Apparently 'the hardest part of the whole project was installing Windows on Sigbritt's PC.'" An article in Press Esc notes an analyst study of the increasing demand for fiber-to-the-home in Europe.

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  1. Great publicity stunt by daveschroeder · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Sigbritt will now be able to enjoy 1,500 high definition HDTV channels simultaneously. Or, if there is nothing worth watching there, she will be able to download a full high definition DVD in just two seconds.

    Oh, she will, will she? And this content comes from where, exactly?

    That's what I thought.

    She is able to "enjoy" nothing on her connection except the same internet to which we all have access. Sure, you can argue that as such bandwidth penetration becomes commonplace, services will be built to support it - like HD movie downloads or live HD IPTV. But as of now, this is nothing more than a technology demonstration, even though the article lamely begs to differ ("This is more than just a demonstration," said network boss Hafsteinn Jonsson.")

    "The most difficult part of the whole project was installing Windows on Sigbritt's PC," said Jonsson.

    Doubtful. (Why even say this? To impress upon people that a high bandwidth connection isn't "hard" to use? Wouldn't the new computer she ostensibly got, since, as the article notes, she's never owned a computer in her life, have come with Windows installed?[1])

    The secret behind Sigbritt's ultra-fast connection is a new modulation technique which allows data to be transferred directly between two routers up to 2,000 kilometres apart, with no intermediary transponders.

    Great, now all we need is fibre going to every home on earth, and the problem is solved!! Why look at wireless when we've got fibre?

    ...

    I understand the point they're trying to make: that a high speed connection that enables the kinds of things such bandwidth allows is technically feasible to a home. But the problem is the same one we've always had - namely, the "last mile" - and this does nothing to solve that in the least.

    "I want to show that there are other methods than the old fashioned ways such as copper wires and radio, which lack the possibilities that fibre has," said Peter Löthberg, who now works at Cisco.

    Is it any surprise that Cisco is dismissing "radio" as "old fashioned" (nice choice of calling it "radio" instead of "wireless"), when high-bandwidth wireless technologies like WiMAX and UMTS Rev 8 are at least an option worth considering as a solution to the "last mile" problem?

    Overall, a great PR stunt.

    4.5/5 (points deducted for lying about needing to install Windows on a newly purchased PC[1])

    [1] For the real contrarians among us, yes, I'm well aware that systems can be built and purchased without Windows. But if the goal was to get a computer that will ultimately be running Windows, and a corporate giant like Cisco is buying it, it would have been purchased without Windows why, again? Exactly.

    1. Re:Great publicity stunt by grub · · Score: 5, Funny


      Oh, she will, will she? And this content comes from where, exactly?

      PirateBay, of course. One of Sweden's national treasures.

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    2. Re:Great publicity stunt by Shadow+Wrought · · Score: 5, Funny
      PirateBay, of course. One of Sweden's national treasures.

      At 1 HD-DVD every 2 seconds she is the PirateBay. Now that's who he should have given the connection to. I doubt her secret lutefisk recipe is going to need quite that much bandwidth.

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    3. Re:Great publicity stunt by daveschroeder · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Heh. I include a disclaimer saying just that, and someone still responds:

      [1] For the real contrarians among us, yes, I'm well aware that systems can be built and purchased without Windows. But if the goal was to get a computer that will ultimately be running Windows, and a corporate giant like Cisco is buying it, it would have been purchased without Windows why, again? Exactly.

      And no, since I'm sitting on a gigabit network on a 10Gbps backbone connected to Internet2/Abilene and BOREASNet, I don't have "network envy". This is a publicity stunt, plain and simple.

      Even 10Gbps PCIe NICs for computers only push about 6-7Gbps...to claim that a 40Gbps connection to an old lady's house is anything BUT a publicity stunt is laughable. Doesn't quite have the same ring as doing the same test between laboratory or corporate facilities, does it?

    4. Re:Great publicity stunt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Has anybody even looked at what the cost is for a 40Gbps interface card? (OC-768) There ain't no way you can call this cost effective.

    5. Re:Great publicity stunt by sqldr · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Why look at wireless when we've got fibre?

      Because there simply isn't enough bandwidth in the air itself for fast wireless. When 3G came out, an engineer I drink beer with often gave me the full SP on why video telephony would never take off. Basically, because to provide a complete service in London alone would involve putting a mast on every single street corner.

      This is why GPRS is charged per packet, not for time "online" (technically, you're always online with GPRS). Each packet goes to every phone signed on that mast. Think of the multiplexing.

      This also goes some way to explaining why HDTV is a bit of a con, especially if you're using a dish rather than cable. Firstly, if you broadcast HDTV at the same bandwidth as normal TV, even with mpeg-4, it looks worse, because the artifacts are more visible. So you could use more bandwidth for a nicer looking channel? Yep.. at cost..

      For an important show, eg. a world cup soccer match, the content provider can pay the broadcaster for extra bandwidth for the 90 minute duration of the match, and it looks great. Unfortunately, if the match goes into extra time, the bandwidth lease drops, and the remaining 30 minutes of footy look like crap! I'm not joking, this actually happens.

      Sure, we can reduce the wavelength and improve the compression, and it will improve over time, but the laws of physics in the realm of wireless are somewhat more restrictive than those of physical wiring, and we're a long way off getting anywhere near the quality that we're being hyped.

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    6. Re:Great publicity stunt by Xzzy · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I hope she's got terabytes worth of ram.. because now the bottleneck is her hard drive and I guarantee she'll hever see that transfer rate unless the data is thrown away as soon as it hits the application.

      My (aging) PATA based system can't even handle 2MB off the internet, which I can get from a couple websites that just so happen to be hosted at the same site my employeer peers at. 40Gb? Disk platters would fly out of the case.

    7. Re:Great publicity stunt by TheRaven64 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      My (aging) PATA based system can't even handle 2MB off the internet,

      My laptop can write at between 10MB/s and 30MB/s, depending on where on the disk you are writing. 30MB/s is 240Mb/s. If you built a RAID array out of laptop disks, you would need 170 of them at best, 510 at worst to be able to store the data.

      On the other hand, when your network is faster than your disk, the only things worth storing locally are things that need fast random access to (latency is still going to be bigger over the network than the disk).

      The point of a 40Gb connection is not what you can do with it, it's what you can't, and the thing you can't do is saturate it (easily). Until disks and CPUs are a few orders of magnitude faster than they are now, 40Gb/s is effectively infinite bandwidth, and that's what makes it interesting. What would you do if bandwidth were suddenly not an issue?

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    8. Re:Great publicity stunt by mikkelm · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Last mile fibre to the home is no more difficult than establishing copper to the home in a typical urban environment.

      When you're laying copper, you're running it to the CO. When you're laying fibre, you're running it to building/premises/neighbourhood access layer switches. The latter is a cheaper solution than building a fully-fledged CO. It's no significant hurdle compared to copper. Both need digging, and that's pretty much all there is to it. The ISP I work for does fibre to the home, and we have one of the best per-customer profit margins of all European ISPs. Last mile fibre to the home is -not- an insurmountable task.

      In rural areas, copper is cheaper, but in rural areas, many people still only have 56k dial-up, too, and at that kind of bandwidth and latency, satellite connections are a much better choice anyway.

    9. Re:Great publicity stunt by Dahamma · · Score: 4, Insightful

      because to provide a complete service in London alone would involve putting a mast on every single street corner.

      There are already cameras on every corner, I'm sure they can handle antennas as well...

      This is why GPRS is charged per packet, not for time "online" (technically, you're always online with GPRS). Each packet goes to every phone signed on that mast. Think of the multiplexing.

      That's what the Internet is all about. IP is packet based and multiplexed. Do you think you have your own dedicated connection to slashdot servers? Also: yes, GPRS is packet based, but not necessarily charged per packet. Many people pay a flat rate for GPRS, just like Internet access.

      This is the same argument people use to claim DSL is better than cable. Well, I can't get more than 3mbps DSL with their "dedicated line". I just switched to cable for the same price and get bursts of 20Mbps, with 6+Mbps continuous.

      Basically, this really fact-free article is claiming that fiber is "cost effective" but doesn't say the slightest about the cost. I guarantee it costs thousands of dollars to install per home, and that's just the last mile, not the massive changes and upgrades that would be required to support this bandwidth that has no useful application to the home for 99.9% of the public. Download an HD-DVD in 2 seconds? To WHERE? Try copying a 30GB file between 2 PCs with GiGE on the same LAN (or even 2 HDDs on the same computer). If it takes 2 seconds, I will pay for your FTTH installation.

      Just as the OP said, this is purely a Cisco-sponsored publicity stunt.

    10. Re:Great publicity stunt by dsginter · · Score: 5, Interesting

      What would you do if bandwidth were suddenly not an issue?

      Get rid of all of these hard drives.

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    11. Re:Great publicity stunt by Go4Linux · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Running Windows is she? Some script-kiddie please hack that box and turn it into a zombie fileserver. Question remains whether that connection is symmetric.

    12. Re:Great publicity stunt by whopub · · Score: 5, Funny

      So that PB could what? Serve kilobyte torrent index files in a few microseconds? At 1 HD-DVD every 2 seconds a torrent index file would arrive at least 5 seconds *before* you initiated the download!
    13. Re:Great publicity stunt by C0rinthian · · Score: 5, Funny

      Granny sucked it all down her pipe. I never want to see/hear that sentence again. Ever.
  2. Yes, but the real qustion by Marxist+Hacker+42 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Are there any servers that are able to stream 1500 HDTV channels simultaneously?

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  3. Here it comes... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    "RIAA arrests 75 year old woman in sweden for file-sharing over her 40GBPS connection. Damages are estimated in the billions."

  4. Huh. by Junior+J.+Junior+III · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Talk about taking a drink from a firehose... How's her NIC keep up with that throughput? How's her hard drive? Her CPU?

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    1. Re:Huh. by halcyon1234 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Not a problem. Her 10/100 Ethernet nic goes up to 11.

  5. History Repeating by Ckwop · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ... that its all just a little bit of history repeating

    It isn't just Shirley Bassey who thinks history is repeating, I do too. When the first canals were built in the 18th century that connected the centre of Manchester with the local coal mines, the price of coal fell by half. It wasn't just coal, suddenly the cotton from the New World could be transported from Liverpool to Manchester in a matter of days - not in the weeks of yester-year.

    This lead to a collapse in price of a whole range of minerals and materials. It is not an exaggeration to say that the humble cannal was the back-bone of the Industrial Revolution. It supplied cheap materials, power in the form of water wheels, and allowed production of a product to move far away from sea, yet still have global reach at the same time.

    Parallels with the Internet can obviously be drawn. Rather than aiding the movement of physical commodities, the Internet aids the movement of intellectual commodities. It completes what the Industrial Revolution started. Now production of information is not tied to any location. It can be forged anywhere and transported to anywhere in a fraction of a second.

    Forget Web 2.0, AJAX or Silverlight. In a century these words will only be known by Internet Historians, who will still have no better clue that us what web 2.0 actually means ;). What will be taught in the class-room about the early Internet is how it allowed the production of value to be independent of the physical location of a business.

    Simon

  6. Phone Number by riffzifnab · · Score: 4, Funny

    Anyone have her phone number? I hear she has a wonderful personality and huge "assets". I have no shame when it comes to that kind of bandwidth.

    Or maybe I can just live in her basement, a change of scenery would do me good. Besides Mom is always nagging at me to get out of the basement and go see the world.

    1. Re:Phone Number by Dunbal · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I went outside once. It isn't worth it. Stay where you are.

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  7. Sign me up! by Random+BedHead+Ed · · Score: 5, Funny

    40 Gbps? Wow, sign me up for this!

    The most difficult part of the whole project was installing Windows on Sigbritt's PC

    Meh, on second thought it doesn't sound worth the effort.

  8. Gee, I would think the hardest part would be: by feepness · · Score: 4, Funny

    Sigbritt, who has never owned a computer before, can now watch 1,500 HDTV channels simultaneously or download a whole high definition DVD in two seconds. Apparently 'the hardest part of the whole project was installing Windows on Sigbritt's PC.'" It seems the hardest part would be setting up the 1,500 HDTVs.

    Of course if she's anything like my 71 year-old Mom it would mean she could fall asleep in from of 1,500 HDTV channels simultaneously.
  9. the real story by psbrogna · · Score: 5, Funny

    Yeah, but she only gets 20 Gb/s upload speed. Damn ISP's and their fancy marketing lingo.

  10. Re:Why? by slickwillie · · Score: 4, Funny

    She's been waiting 75 years for a connection fast enough.

  11. Every story needs photos by jmilne · · Score: 4, Informative

    There's some photos on Peter Lothberg's site that might be his mom playing with her new connection.

  12. Re:asking on behalf of Seth Rogan... by mcguiver · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I am just curious if he is still living in his mother's basement? If so, that may have been the incentive to run that high of a capacity line to a 75 year old woman's house.

  13. Re:meanwhile in Indiana by roseacres · · Score: 4, Informative

    And then there's Tennessee. I get 26.4 on a good day. I call Bellsouth/ATT and complain. The answer - 19.2 or better meets their standard. A state legislator reads my email of complaint and says that I should know that I now have the option of selecting a different phone company if I'm not happy with ATT. Sigh!

  14. What All Other ./ers Would Do... by saudadelinux · · Score: 5, Funny

    What would you do if bandwidth were suddenly not an issue? ...develop a truly horrible case of tennis elbow. Joking :)
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