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Will Microsoft Put The Colonel in the Kernel?

theodp writes "The kernel meets The Colonel in a just-published Microsoft patent application for an Advertising Services Architecture, which delivers targeted advertising as 'part of the OS.' Microsoft, who once teamed with law enforcement to protect consumers from unwanted advertising, goes on to boast that the invention can 'take steps to verify ad consumption,' be used to block ads from competitors, and even sneak a peek at 'user document files, user e-mail files, user music files, downloaded podcasts, computer settings, [and] computer status messages' to deliver more tightly targeted ads."

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  1. Wonder when this will be an "important update"? by Whatsmynickname · · Score: 4, Insightful

    [paranoia] Wonder when you'll be downloading this important security update from Microsoft? [/paranoia]

    1. Re:Wonder when this will be an "important update"? by ShieldW0lf · · Score: 4, Insightful

      So, now no other operating systems are allowed to do this?

      Sweet! MS did something good for once.

      I'm sure they didn't mean to.

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    2. Re:Wonder when this will be an "important update"? by TheRaven64 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      US Robotics is a real company, and it was named after US Robotics and Mechanical Men from Asimov's books. The film adaptation dropped the 'and Mechanical Men' part of the name. It was not a 'telling of the story I, Robot,' because there is no story I, Robot. Asimov's I, Robot is a book of short stories which, along with The Rest of the Robots and a couple of novellas was merged into The Complete Robot later. It's amazing the number of people who say things like 'you never read the I, Robot story did you? If you did, you'd know how different the film was from it,' when there was no such story (there was, however, an Outer Limits episode of the same name, involving the trial of a robot for murder, which seemed to have partially inspired the film).

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    3. Re:Wonder when this will be an "important update"? by jackalope · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I guess that they all outrank private data.

  2. More Monies Please... by rizzo320 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Microsoft has realized that protecting consumers and selling high quality products are not ways they can make money any longer. Getting in bed with corporations and ad agencies and selling out the customer is looking to become much more profitable for them.

    What really scares me is that for this to be successful, without some type of backlash from the user community, it would have to be forced on us. As in, forced so you could no longer install another operating system on your computer. Perhaps this is there for when they sue Linux out of oblivion, or at least try to. Otherwise, who would ever use another Microsoft product.

    Then again, the data collected from such an endeavor would be so valuable, Microsoft could market computers for free with this software installed. Perhaps that the only other way this is successful.

  3. ummmm? by isthisorigional · · Score: 5, Insightful

    i think i speak for everyone when i say "what the fuck??" when did OPERATING SYSTEMS become billboards? so when the next MS OS comes out, instead of everyone looking for activation cracks they'll be looking first for how the hell to get the adds off of their desktop? asking people to view shit at the bottom of msn messenger is one thing, but there is a line.

  4. First spyware, now adware by robo_mojo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    First MS decided to start distributing spyware with the OS when they created WGA. And now they want to top that off by including adware as well?

  5. Re:The sound you hear is... by The+Optimizer · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Thank you, both of you who replied...

    Your helpful attitude is totally opposite of the attitude I ran into 10 years ago when I asked for help online.

    If that's a common reaction, then the Linux comminty has come a long, long way along with the OS and software. I'm looking forward to trying it out and feeling secure again.

  6. Re:How standard is this clause? by misleb · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The detailed description is to be construed as exemplary only and does not describe every possibly embodiment of the invention because describing every possible embodiment would be impractical, if not impossible.


    A statement like this in a patent application should be grounds for automatic refusal of said patent. If you can't describe the specific implementation of an "invention"... no patent for you!

    -matthew
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  7. Re:The sound you hear is... by misleb · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If that's a common reaction, then the Linux comminty has come a long, long way along with the OS and software. I'm looking forward to trying it out and feeling secure again.


    It depends on the distribution and your attitude/skill level going into it. Fortunately there are enough distributions that you should be able to find a good match. But regardless of the distribution, I think it is important that one changes one's expectations of what software is. Once you go with open source software, you should expect to take on an attitude of exploration and community. There is no more expecting software to do exactly what you need right out of the box (although Ubuntu has gotten pretty good about this). Nobody owes you anything (you didn't pay for anything). Whatever anyone in the community does for you (whether it is writing the code or supporting it) is purely voluntary. That is both the strength and weakness of free/open source software. Embrace it.

    -matthew
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  8. Is MS abandoning the software business? by cheros · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I wonder if Microsoft is busy abandoning the software business.

    First we get Vista, with a reported 20+ services phoning home with enough detail to make what Redmond get personally identifiable, not to mention that the Business version in my experience is an absolute dog to run compared to XP or Linux on the same "Vista approved" hardware. So we have instant privacy and security problems that come with the package, and new code which will take another year to become actually safe and usable (cute visuals do not maketh a usable business OS, especially if you have to retrain everyone - might as well take the plunge and retrain them on Macs or Linux).

    Then we get the latest Office, which will work in Microsoft's attempt to create an 'Open' file format. That effort has mainly demonstrated that they (a) don't know what Open means, (b) don't see what their customers are asking for and (c) don't care about the previous two aspects, to the point of not understanding that their effort is alienating their increasingly savvy customers.

    What's more, the 'Open' documentation has already given rise to the question if their flawed Excel spreadsheet functions (as documented) are new defects, or simply the first documentation of an already existing flawed interpretation of the laws of mathematics - any calculation done on an Excel spreadsheet to report financial results could now be seen as breaking diligence. In other words, using Excel knowingly may even carry a risk of criminal charges (IMHO, IANAL). Which executive would want that risk, especially with lower cost alternatives at hand that support a file format than can be machine processed and has been accepted at EU level?

    However, MS trying to move into other markets hasn't been quite the success they'd hoped for either. Huge repair bills for Xbox, Zune zonked, and a lot of suppliers opting for a less license encumbered OS in their phones - it's all looking a tad shabby for your average clued up investor. Not a stock I'd keep on my portfolio, and following the progression other companies have made I think death by lawyer (suing your customers) cannot be far away.

    And now, new idea, they're trying to move ads beyond your control into the core OS. Oh yes, that really will help drive up productivity in an office. And it'll be a primary risk vector if it gets infected.

    Oh, yeah, I forgot, any new MS OS is the safest ever. Shame it still gets hacked before it's even launched. Talk about losing credibility..

    Sure, I'm probably just a Mac/Linux fanboy. Isn't it irritating that even the less vocal ones in that category get proven right all the time? I don't choose an OS because of its fanbase, I chose it because it works for my business and I can see through the FUD (and OK, we're not a thousand seat business). I've had one office on OO exclusively now for 6 months, and no client has even noticed the difference - they're now switching to Linux completely. All the other offices are busy being switched to all Open Source based software in the next few months (using the holiday season), with the occasional Mac thrown in for graphics work.

    And you know the best news? No virus problems, no daily 'reboot now' updates, no Genuine Advantage, no BSA/FAST worries.

    It Just Works.

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