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Patent Reform Bill Approved by House Committee

Alex Forster pointed us to this PC World story that opens, "The House Committee on the Judiciary approved far-reaching legislation to reform the nation's patent system Wednesday. The Patent Reform Act of 2007 largely reflects the IT sector's lobbying effort to curtail lengthy, expensive patent infringement lawsuits, but Wednesday's committee deliberations centered on finding compromises acceptable to opponents — namely the pharmaceutical and biotechnology industries, manufacturers, and large research universities — so that the bill could win approval. Committee Chairman John Conyers, D-Mich., described the current patent system as inefficient, bogged down by inappropriate litigation rules, unreliably funded, and resulting in patents of "questionable quality." The bill would make it harder to secure a patent and easier for rivals to challenge one, and it would change how courts determine an infringed patent's value."

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  1. Patent Band-aid Bill slithers out of Committee by UncleWilly · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ..would have been a better title. No real reform here. Just business as usual.

    1. Re:Patent Band-aid Bill slithers out of Committee by MyLongNickName · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Care to cite examples? Or is this just a generally "I am cool because I am a skeptic" response?

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  2. "Far-reaching"? by pieterh · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This bill is a small tweak of the system that cures the worst symptoms but does not fix the disease. It's at best a recognition that the US patent system is not perfect, and at worst a band-aid that will delay real reform.

    There's no substantive changes, no change of the economic incentives that drive specialists to claim every plausible invention in the name of speculative future profits. As long as experts can claim exclusive ownership of the software commons, the patent system is broken, and it'll continue to punish real innovators by creating unpredictable risk.

    Real innovators don't even seek patents. 80% of VC-funded software firms don't claim patents within four years of being funded. The whole patent system is a fraud, a tax on the consumer, and a blight on high-tech industries. This bill just perpetuates the fraud a little longer.

    What is needed is a total review of what patents are for, why society should grant them, and how this should operate in a post-industrial world. Compare, for example, the trademark system (an industrial-age protection) with the domain name system (proper digital age protection of the same thing), and you see what could be possible.

    1. Re:"Far-reaching"? by pzs · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Real innovators don't even seek patents. 80% of VC-funded software firms don't claim patents within four years of being funded. The whole patent system is a fraud, a tax on the consumer, and a blight on high-tech industries. This bill just perpetuates the fraud a little longer.

      I totally agree with this. There is an Audi advert here in the UK where they claim that their new car is very innovative because during its production, they filed more patents than NASA did whilst developing the space shuttle. They fail to mention that NASA is government funded and focussed on progress and innovation, so they have much less interest in slapping a "this is mine" sticker on any half-idea they have and charging everybody to use it.

      This is actually related to this discussion. Number of research papers is not necessarily proportional to the quality of the research because (duh) somebody might publish one really amazing paper which contributes more than 15 crappy papers.

      It strikes me that the patent system is just another part of the corporate game playing exercise. People cynically patent anything as another revenue stream making a mockery of the purpose of protecting IP in the first place.

      Peter

    2. Re:"Far-reaching"? by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 2, Interesting

      What is needed is a total review of what patents are for, why society should grant them, and how this should operate in a post-industrial world. Compare, for example, the trademark system (an industrial-age protection) with the domain name system (proper digital age protection of the same thing), and you see what could be possible.


      Hmmm...what if you had an online database of implemented original inventions, peer-reviewed, of course. Those with truly inventions would then post them in the database. Peers in the industry would review the invention to determine if it was truly original. Laws would prevent implementation of inventions that haven't yet completed the peer-review process -- if it passes the peer-review, the inventor gets the sole right to sell/produce the invention for 5 years. The 'payment' for receiving a patent would be that the inventor would have to participate in the peer-review process for at least 3 other inventions. A registrar, consisting of a panel of 3 trustees and 3 judges would oversee everything to ensure that everyone was playing fair -- violators would be prosecuted.

    3. Re:"Far-reaching"? by QuantumG · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Why does the US have such great laws in regards to copyright of works produced by government agencies and yet no similar laws for patents?

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    4. Re:"Far-reaching"? by Yfrwlf · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Agreed, and I also find it really amusing when companies mention patents in advertisements. "This product is great, because we're going to charge you more because of our stranglehold on the technology!"? You don't need patents in order to use good ideas.

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  3. Quick... by djones101 · · Score: 2, Funny

    1. Patent the patent bill.
    2. Sue the government.
    3. Profit!

  4. Quick! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Dear employee:

    It has come to our attention that Congress will soon make it more difficult to patent out innovations. Under the new rules, some of our innovations such as our "two click on-line shopping" invention and our "three click shopping for healthcare" invention would be unpatentable.

    Although shocking, our legal staff tells us that it is very unlikely that our existing patents will be nullified. We'll still have patent rights on three-click healthcare.

    Please note that this is the time to ramp up the filing while we still have the chance! This week, Robert is planning to file "combination TV remote and firearm", "Fuel pump/ATM combination device", "guitar with integrated video display", and "Retail sales of iPod accessories made after 2008". People, PLEASE talk to Robert to get your filings in ASAP - because otherwise, we'll have to really innovate, and that will damage our bottom line.

  5. congress isn't the only one having their say by iritant · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Check out this article about how the Supreme Court earlier in the year revived the obviosness standard. This was one of several decisions that went against patent trolls, and leads me to believe that the justices actually read the newspaper. Now if Congress took less money from the trolls, perhaps there would be stronger legislative reform.

  6. Bullshit by Black+Parrot · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The bill would make it harder to secure a patent and easier for rivals to challenge one By the time it gets out of committee it will be just another gimmee for the biggest corporations.

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  7. now first-to-invent? by PoochieReds · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Thus spake the article:


    The bill moves the patent system from a "first-to-invent" to a "first-to-file" system, but in another nod to large universities, the committee clarified a grace period on filing patent applications for inventors who disclose or publish inventions in advance of seeking a patent.


    Does this mean that prior art can no longer invalidate a patent if the creator of the prior art never filed for one?

    1. Re:now first-to-invent? by Heisenbug · · Score: 3, Informative

      Does this mean that prior art can no longer invalidate a patent if the creator of the prior art never filed for one?

      No, because to get a patent you have to prove the technique hasn't been previously published by someone else. This will just mean that if two people who can each prove that element file for the same patent, they won't have to argue about who kept it secret for longer.

    2. Re:now first-to-invent? by beavioso · · Score: 2, Informative

      The "first-to-invent" is the system where if an application is rejected over prior art that is within one (1) year of the filing date (or priority date, which could be a provisional application, foreign application, or another US case) the applicant can file an affidavit swearing that they where the "first-to-invent". This means they can "swear back" upto 1 year behind their filing, or priority date. They need evidence to prove they were the "first-to-invent", which can be very subjective.

      The "first-to-file" system gets rid of these affidavit's and makes the filing, or priority, date the day of invention. If prior art was filed, published (meaning it was available to the public, but no one actually had to have seen it), etc, before the day of filing, it qualifies as prior art.

  8. This was my "Patent" wake-up call.. by StressGuy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I recently saw an add for a razor, you know, the kind you use to shave with. Not electric mind you, just a plain old shaving razor. The advertisement said that this particular "new and improved" razor had 20 more patents that the previous model.

    Seriously, how do you get 20+ patents out of a razor?

    I think the math pseudo-code works like this:

    IF [1 razor] >= [20 patents] THEN {ACTUAL-PATENT-VALUE} = {TRIVIAL}

    Yet, the value of an "infringed" patent can be hundereds of thousands of dollars in court (if not millions).

    Therefore, while I do believe the original idea of the patent was to protect honest innovation, it appears that all we are really doing these days is creating a litigation industry. The more patents you can attach to something, the greater the likelihood of generating additional revenue in court.

    I'm not opposed to the idea of a patent, but it seems to me that businesses are simply "gaming the system" here....or am I missing something?

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    1. Re:This was my "Patent" wake-up call.. by rmstar · · Score: 4, Informative

      Go to a startbucks. The little cardboard ring that you use to keep your fingers from burning is protected by two patents. A piece of cardboard and a bit of glue, and you are a patent infringer. Now that I told you, you would be liable for trebble damages.

      And if you need a further wake-up, read how patent litigation really works here.

    2. Re:This was my "Patent" wake-up call.. by Dragonslicer · · Score: 2, Interesting

      At least the razor is a physical object that might have some amount of research (probably in the materials used) to it. I hear ads on the radio from a bank that rounds all debit card purchases up to the next dollar and transfers the difference into your savings account. At the end of the ad, they say "patent pending". They have actually applied for a patent that covers the combination of basic arithmetic and transferring money between accounts (which most people have been able to do for years, even online or on an automatic schedule). I'm all for a patent system that does what ours was intended to do, but it's getting just a bit ridiculous now.

  9. Yeah, right by dgun · · Score: 4, Insightful

    There will be no real reform of the patent systems as long as congress is bought and paid for by campaign contributions.

    And real reform means eliminating all software patents. And that will never happen as long as:

    Microsoft Campaign Contributions: $8,907,025 (1999 - Present)

    And I'm sure there are many other companies in the industry that throw dollars at congress. Source

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    1. Re:Yeah, right by mOdQuArK! · · Score: 3, Insightful

      One simple reform would make campaign finance reform a LOT easier: removing the idea from the legal system that corporations (or organizations) have the same sorts of rights as real people (specifically, free speech).

  10. Senate Committee Follows Suit by dc_dog · · Score: 3, Informative

    The Senate Judiciary Committee passed their own version of the bill (S. 1145) yesterday afternoon. The bi-partisan bills now move to a vote in the full House and Senate. Trolls beware...

  11. I must thank the Communists... by aneeshm · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The current Indian government is a coalition, and the Communist Party of India are one of the major members, without whose support the coalition would collapse.

    Though I am staunchly in favour of the free market, I still must thank the communists for one thing - they made algorithms (mathematical and non mathematical), programs, business methods/models, and software in general unpatentable, by including it in the 2005 Patent Amendments Act.

    Before that, software was patentable in the limited sense of it being a component of hardware - like the microcode of a chip, for example - basically at the point where the differences between hardware and software became a bit blurred. Now, however, it falls under the list of things which are explicitly unpatentable.

    I find it extremely ironic, and a bit sad at the same time, that it is the Communists Party of India which essentially stood up for freedom and a truly freer market.

    1. Re:I must thank the Communists... by RespekMyAthorati · · Score: 2, Funny

      Capitalists of the world unite!

      Fight those Commie free-marketers!

  12. Approval from who? by farker+haiku · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Wednesday's committee deliberations centered on finding compromises acceptable to opponents -- namely the pharmaceutical and biotechnology industries, manufacturers, and large research universities -- so that the bill could win approval.

    I wasn't aware that the biotech industries, manufacturers, and large research universities were the ones voting on it.

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  13. Once again, the people get pwned by TechForensics · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Wednesday's committee deliberations centered on finding compromises acceptable to opponents -- namely the pharmaceutical and biotechnology industries, manufacturers, and large research universities Am I the only one who thinks how powerful interests have to be consulted (so they can stay powerful) before a bill passes is a pretty F****D-UP kind of democracy? It looks like whether we have communism or capitalism, if either system gets too hoary and entrenched the people get pwned.

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