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Vista Use Grows as Mac OS X Stays Flat

jdelator writes to mention ComputerWorld is reporting that Microsoft's Windows Vista has increased their market share steadily every month while their main opponent, Mac OS X, has remained essentially flat. "According to Net Applications, in June Windows Vista accounted for 4.52% of all systems that browsed the Web, up from January's 0.18%. Vista has grown its usage share each month since its release to consumers Jan. 30, hitting 0.93% in February, 2.04% in March, 3.02% in April and 3.74% in May. Apple Inc.'s Mac OS X, meanwhile, accounted for 6.22% in January and hit its high point of 6.46% in May, but it slipped back to 6% in June. If Vista's uptake trend continues, it should pass Mac OS X in Web usage share by the end of August."

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  1. Wow, what news, MS outsells Apple! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    What a non news event. Just think, MS outsells OS X. That's news?

  2. Very silly statistic! by Ancient_Hacker · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is a useless comparison. Vista will grow in share as there are bazillions of consumers that are running older versions of Windows and have a compulsion to "upgrade". Mac OSX doesnt.

    1. Re:Very silly statistic! by TheRaven64 · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Every new OS X user has to switch operating system and computer vendors, while every new Vista user just needs to buy the new version of the operating system that they were using. For this reason, it might not make sense to perform the comparison, since it is much harder to become a new OS X user (especially if you're in one of the large categories of people who get free licenses for MS software).

      On the other hand, the absolute market share figures are still interesting. With Apple selling 15% of new laptops this year, it is slightly surprising that they only have a 6-7% market share.

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    2. Re:Very silly statistic! by fyngyrz · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I run windows from time to time... but I run it in a sandbox on my Mac. Linux too. So every time someone counts my windows or my linux, it's really counting a Mac anyway. :-)

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  3. What a silly comparison by EmbeddedJanitor · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Vista is new and replaces XP, so obviously Vista will be increasing from near zero upwards.

    OSX has been around for a long while now, so it is hard to expect sudden changes.

    What would make far more sense would be to compare Vista + XP vs OSX. That would give a far better MS vs OSX comparison.

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  4. Misleading sensationalism, as usual by phozz+bare · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What the summary fails to mention is that this growth comes at the expense of XP - not Mac OS - with Windows usage overall remaining constant.

    There is, really, nothing to see here. Yawn.

  5. forced purchases? by __aapbzv4610 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Could the increase have to do with the fact that you can't really get anything other than Vista on a new PC?

    1. Re:forced purchases? by jedidiah · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You cited an overpriced Unix vendor that normal consumers never heard of, a mail order Linux vendor that most Linux users have never heard of (nevermind "normal consumers") and a major vendor that's offering limited support for a small subset of their product.

      If you can't see the problem of paying $5000 for a desktop from someone you've never really heard of before then you're way out of touch with the common man.

      At least the $2000+ Apple desktops benefit from the long track record (for better or worse) that Apple has in consumer computing.

      Sun might as well be LG. Actually, LG would at least be a name people might recognize.

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  6. Why is this even news? by damiam · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Of course Vista's market share is rising; it just came out and people are forced to upgrade when they buy new machines. Since current Windows marketshare is at least 90%, it would be shocking if Vista didn't eventually account for at least 70%.

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  7. If Vista's uptake trend continues... by BarryJacobsen · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If Vista's uptake trend continues, it should pass Mac OS X in Web usage share by the end of August. Why stop at August - in a mere 9 years it will have 110% of the market!

    I'm curious to see how the release of Leopard will change these numbers, I know I'm waiting to buy a mac (replacing my PC, I already have an ibook, not that you care.) until after Leopard.
  8. I call BS by Xybre · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Whats with all the MS/Vista FUD on Slashdot? I mean, I use Windows, Macs, and Linux all the time, and I know Mac and Linux are growing and a lot of people have said screw Vista for a variety of reasons. There have been many articles disproving the "growth" of Vista adoption.

    To further skew the results, some users are upgrading from Windows XP, there isn't a new version of OS X out yet, so why would people be upgrading to it? It just doesn't make any sense. MS isn't gaining any new users here, while Linux and Mac obviously are. Whats with the BS?

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  9. So? by ZachPruckowski · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Expecting OS X web use to stay above Vista web use is pretty darn silly. Anyone who wasn't expecting Vista to reach 30-50 percent adoption rates (at the minimum) within 4 years is nuts. So "Vista passing OS X" is not unexpected. Only in the ultimate Mac Fanboys' wet dream would OS X marketshare permenantly exceed Vista marketshare.

    Also, "percent of web pages browsed" sucks balls as a statistic, since it only covers select websites, doesn't take into account some blocking and privacy techniques, ignores user-agent spoofing, and assumes everyone browses the web at the same rate of pages/machine/day. Now some of that (not a lot of UA spoofing really, and web-browsing rates are probably similar) is not a huge deal, but some of it (which web pages are covered) really is.

  10. Re:And Windows users buy PCs more often by shayborg · · Score: 3, Insightful

    That's why I'm baffled by the spurrious price comparisons between Macs and Windows PCs. Sure my PowerBook cost 25% more than your Dell. But in three years, when you send your Dell off to laptop heaven (or more likely, if it's Dell, laptop hell) my PowerBook will still have at least three years of useful life left. Making your 25% "savings" actually a loss. I'm not sure about this. My primary machine at home is a 3-year-old Dell Inspiron 700m. It cost me $800 when I bought it — much less than any comparably powered Apple laptop at the time — and is still going strong. The laptop still does all it did three years ago; it browses the Web, plays music and DVDs, burns CDs, and handles some light development work. I upgraded the hard drive and the RAM more than two years ago, but that's because I bought a low end laptop to begin with. You'd do the same with an iBook that shipped with a 30 GB hard drive and 512 MB RAM. All the other hardware is stock and works just as well as it did when I bought it.

    The point is that I don't see how a Mac laptop inherently has three more years of life. From what I hear anecdotally the internal hardware is pretty much the same these days. As far as the software goes, my laptop will run Vista adequately if not well, and you could say the same of a three-year-old Apple laptop and Leopard.
  11. Re:Nothing to see here.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Seriously, ALMOST beating OS X's 6% market share when you are a predatory monopolist who has been cramming Vista down vendor's throats for six+ months now isn't something to be proud of."

    No doubt. It's a given that Vista's use will increase, duh. And when the summery says this:

    "[OS X] hit its high point of 6.46% in May, but it slipped back to 6% in June."

    What are they implying? That OSX users suddenly abandoned their Macs and switched to Vista or other?

  12. Math challenged FA by fyngyrz · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The whole thing is based on brain damage anyway. Growth isn't measurable by percentage of systems in a dynamic market.

    For instance, in a given month say there were 100x systems in use, 75x of which ran windows, and 25x of which ran OSX. Next month, there were 200x systems in use, 150x of which run windows, and 50x of which ran OSX. In both cases, using the article's flawed reasoning, windows is 75% and OSX is 25% so there is no growth for either platform; but the fact is that both systems grew 100%, as there are twice as many of both types of systems in use by month two. Both manufacturers and their investors, etc., would have every reason to celebrate.

    That's why using percentages of market is a bankrupt strategy to measure product growth in a dynamic market (which PC's certainly are), and always will be. The question is, are there more systems using the product in question now, than there were the last time one looked? If there is, then the product is growing. If not, it isn't. Doesn't have squat to do with shared percentage as measured against another product.

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  13. Re:Nothing to see here.... by mrsteveman1 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    All this REALLY shows is this: drawing conclusions about marketshare by looking at indisputably flawed web browser identification methods, is borderline retarded and at the least, useless.

    This sort of story should not be on slashdot, even as a 'look how stupid they are' type thing.

  14. Re:Nothing to see here.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I didn't know Microsoft sold computers? Or is it possible that you're comparing Apple's 4-5% of the COMPUTER market to Microsoft's 90+% of the OS market?

    Here's a better comparison for you - MS hasn't entered a new market sector profitably in YEARS, Apple has done so repeatedly.

  15. Re:Vista Numbers Suggest Poor Adoption by ZorinLynx · · Score: 3, Insightful

    >Activation is indeed a problem although it's interesting that you explicitly state corp editions when it's a complete non-issue for corp editions and is only a problem for home users. For corp uses you have a central authorization server which you probably already have in the form of SMS. That's a complete non-issue a corp edition of Vista are not tied to the machines which is the whole reason business buy those licenses instead of retail.

    I don't want to need anyone's "permission" to use software I bought. PERIOD.

    And yes, it's more a matter of principle than any inconvenience suffered.

  16. Re:Nothing to see here.... by Corwn+of+Amber · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Well, it would guarantee that much more sales if they just sold unsupported OSX off-the-shelf. I never bought softare, but I'd buy Leopard on the first day at midnight even if I had to queue up two nights before. Because I can't buy a Mac, but I can happily spend 100 on OSX.

    And that's just me. If HP, Asus or anyone sold OSX machines (for the usual price of equivalent Mac minus 50%) they'd be selling so many OSX licenses that it would more than make up for the loss of Mac sales. Apple does not sell enough macs that it would cut that much in their revenue streams ... As for supporting PC hardware, it's a) very easy and b) already there anyway. MacOSX supports ATI and nVidia cards, runs on any CPU that has SSE3, supports Intel ICHn chipsets, Via, AMD, nVidia, and there is a very active community happily developing drivers for every piece of hardware that's common enough that someone with the skills to port or write a driver has one.

    If Steve Jobs wanted to, he could choke Microsoft in a year. The technology is here just now ... I really hope it's here to stay, and that it will dominate, some day. MacOSX is the best desktop Unix hands down... KDE on Linux is close, but there are a lot of things left that could be automated away, I felt it was too much work to keep it working Just Right(tm). Maybe in five more years?

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