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Nielsen's First PlayMetrics Results Announced

June was the first month that Nielsen's new approach to tracking game play was fully implemented, and the statistics from last month are now out. Some sample numbers: "The company determined that 68.1 million individuals used a videogame console in June, playing an average of 7.5 days during the month. The PlayStation 2 was the most-played console, accounting for 42 per cent of the total console usage ... The Xbox 360 accounted for eight per cent of console playing time. Its users logged in an average of 2.2 sessions per day, with an average session length of 61 minutes. The PS3 accounted for 1.5 per cent of console usage. Its users logged in an average of 1.9 sessions per day with an average session length of 83 minutes-the longest playing session of all consoles studied. The Wii, by comparison, accounted for four per cent of overall console playing time. Its users logged in an average of 1.78 sessions per day with an average session length of 57 minutes." GameDaily has further demographics from the results.

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  1. What about.... by svendsen · · Score: 2, Interesting

    the DS and PSP? While they aren't consoles, they are still part of the video game market. And considering hwo the DS has creamed a lot of the consoles you would think they would want that info.

    1. Re:What about.... by Aranykai · · Score: 1

      Thats true, the DS is rather popular, but I think it misses the scope of this study.

      DS or PSP owners almost always also own a console also. And, as far as that goes, consoles are still played more by several orders of magnitude.

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    2. Re:What about.... by AuMatar · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure about that. Look at the sales numbers for the DS in Japan- they've sold enough that half the population has one. Regaurdless, without numbers, you can't just assume either of those things you just assumed.

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    3. Re:What about.... by EtoilePB · · Score: 1

      DS or PSP owners almost always also own a console also. And, as far as that goes, consoles are still played more by several orders of magnitude.

      Actually, with the emergence of the DS as a popular item for first-time owners and players, I'm not so sure that's true anymore -- and it'd be the kind of thing I think would be interested to find out. With the DS market expanding to include more female gamers (from kids to seniors) and non-gamers, and with the Wii being markedly less available in stores than a DS... well, I'd be curious to see the demographics of handhelds.

      Of course, I think PC gaming's best all around and sadly under-represented on shelves, but that's a different issue. ;)

    4. Re:What about.... by fistfullast33l · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately, it's limited due to their methodology. You have to dig into the press release, but you'll see this.

      Nielsen GamePlay Metrics uses console data collected from the Nielsen's People Meter TV sample combined with Nielsen GamePlay Metrics' proprietary audio signature library that matches the unique audio signature of every game tracked on the six most widely available video game consoles, including PlayStation 2, PLAYSTATION 3, Xbox, Xbox 360, Wii and GameCube.

      So they basically have to be plugged into the TV so the meter can see that they're playing. I guess they then use the console's audio output to differentiate between them. No TV for portables. Well, PSP will have it soon.

    5. Re:What about.... by feepness · · Score: 1

      DS or PSP owners almost always also own a console also. And, as far as that goes, consoles are still played more by several orders of magnitude. I gave my Mom a PSP and she uses it to play music and carry all her photos with her.

      She also has an N64 in the house I guess, but that's for the grandkids.
    6. Re:What about.... by jonnythan · · Score: 1

      "DS or PSP owners almost always also own a console also. And, as far as that goes, consoles are still played more by several orders of magnitude."

      I think both of these are galactically wrong.

      At least a dozen of my friends own DS Lites and play them constantly. Not a single one of them regularly plays console games, and none of them have any nex-gen consoles (save a few that have a Wii).

      The DS has been outselling all of the consoles for a long, long time now. Lots of people own *just* a portable system and spend much more time playing it than they do playing a console.

    7. Re:What about.... by flitty · · Score: 1

      Get some engineer working on moving that tv box into a GBA cartridge size, and then have the user just leave it in their GBA slot for the DS. Simple, problem fixed.

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    8. Re:What about.... by AvitarX · · Score: 1

      DS or PSP owners almost always also own a console also. And, as far as that goes, consoles are still played more by several orders of magnitude.

      So you are saying that TV based consoles are played approximatly 1000x (3 orders of magnitude) more than portable ones?

      There are a whole lot of portable consoles, probably making up at least 20% of consoles (my flash is not working can't check vgchartz.com). for them to have 3 orders of magnitude less play than the PS2 (approximately 50%) sounds very unlikely.

      My personal play habits are about 1/2 DS (more during TV season, when there is stuff my wife watches and I keep her company), 1/4 Wii, 1/4 GC. I play only an hour or so a day, so I am playing about 1/4 the average PS3 owner, and 1/8 DS to their PS3, but a whole lot of people need to take my 1 order of magnitude less and make it 3 orders less.

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    9. Re:What about.... by ucblockhead · · Score: 1

      I find that hard to believe given that handhelds usually outsell consoles by 2 or 3 to 1.

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    10. Re:What about.... by Swanktastic · · Score: 1

      The term "several orders of magnitude" is used incorrectly several orders of magnitude more often incorrectly than correctly.

      There... I just helped make my own case.

    11. Re:What about.... by flewp · · Score: 1

      Nor can you assume that just because they've sold enough for half the population of Japan to own a DS, that indeed half the population owns one. While I doubt many people own more than one, I'm betting quite a few have had to buy more than one to replace a broken, lost, or stolen one.

      (apologies if you meant that they've sold enough that half the population *could* own one)

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    12. Re:What about.... by 7Prime · · Score: 1

      And cut down their DS playing by a third (since so many DSs are still being used to play GBA games). Probably not a very good idea, in terms of establishing accurate numbers.

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    13. Re:What about.... by LKM · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but those that were stolen presumably remain in use by some member of the population. Also, babies can't play DS, so not every member of the population is a potential DS owner to begin with.

    14. Re:What about.... by LKM · · Score: 1

      I agree. As a kid, I owned a Gameboy, but not TV console. I know a lot of people who only own a Gameboy or a DS.

    15. Re:What about.... by JonathanBoyd · · Score: 2, Informative

      Actually, they've sold about 18 million in Japan, which has a population of 127 million, so that's 'only' a seventh of the population. Very impressive, but quite far off the 65 million required for half the population.

  2. Where is this data coming from? by razorh · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It's all great fun to see numbers, but how are they coming up with them? Is there some box that people have in their living room that somehow records what system they are playing on and do these people own all systems being monitored? all games? Is this internet based traffic from machines connected to the internet? how many machines out there aren't actually online? Maybe I'm missing something but I'm not seeing any info on how the data was collected in the article.

    1. Re:Where is this data coming from? by razorh · · Score: 5, Informative

      ok.. dug this up:

      Nielsen GamePlay Metrics uses console data collected from the Nielsen's
      People Meter TV sample combined with Nielsen GamePlay Metrics' proprietary
      audio signature library that matches the unique audio signature of every
      game tracked on the six most widely available video game consoles,
      including PlayStation 2, PLAYSTATION 3, Xbox, Xbox 360, Wii and GameCube.
      The GamePlay
              Metrics user sample includes more than 12,000 households with
      approximately 33,000 individuals.
              Nielsen GamePlay Metrics uses PC data collected from the Nielsen's
      Video Game Tracking Survey. Video Game Tracking is a weekly online survey
      of 1200 gamers 7 - 54 years of age. Qualifications include ownership of a
      console or PC, play video games at least 1 hour per week and have purchased
      at least one or more video games in the last 6 months. The Video Game
      Tracking online survey has been in the field for more than two years (104+
      weeks).
              Additional data, including rankings of console video game titles and
      the electronic metering of PC game titles are in testing and will be
      available to select Nielsen GamePlay Metrics clients in the near future. On
      July 5, 2007 Nielsen announced a collaborative agreement with Sony Computer
      Entertainment America to develop a measurement system for computer game
      advertising that includes the sharing of video game console data. The
      Nielsen-Sony data will also be provided within GamePlay Metrics service in
      the near future.

      from here:
      http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT= 104&STORY=/www/story/07-26-2007/0004632940&EDATE=

    2. Re:Where is this data coming from? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nielsen's press release has some info.

      It looks like they are trying to use audio signatures and an online survey.

      In other words they guess.

    3. Re:Where is this data coming from? by Ant+P. · · Score: 1

      So in other words, this survey is as worthless as Alexa.

    4. Re:Where is this data coming from? by ucblockhead · · Score: 1

      Wouldn't that be unable to tell the difference between a PS2 game played on a PS2 and a PS2 game played on a PS3? Seems to me that this method would inflate the numbers for the PS2 and Xbox over the PS3 and Xbox 360.

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  3. PS3's High Session Times by BrokenSegue · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Could the PS3's higher session lengths compared to the other two "next-gen" consoles be explained by a higher proportion of people watching movies on the console (instead of playing actual games)? That would make sense since I know several people who bought the PS3 just to use it as Blu-ray player.

    1. Re:PS3's High Session Times by Calmiche · · Score: 1

      I was wondering if some of this could be "Folding at Home" running.

      Some more info on how these stats were gathered would be a lot more helpful.

    2. Re:PS3's High Session Times by twistedsymphony · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Actually I was thinking more that that 360 had a low session time due to the high session count. Caused by the fact that games get frequent updates and whenever you update a game you have to log-off while the update takes place. It only takes a few seconds but the stats would show a regular 1 session lasting about 1 minute followed by another session lasting 2 hours... If I pop in a game that I haven't played in a month or two there is almost guaranteed to be another game update that needs to occur, and if you pop in a game for the first time, it almost always has an update available. It's sad but when I bought the darkness last week I was almost shocked that it didn't have to update but instead just played straight away.

      Obviously that would give you an average session of about an hour but it's not a very accurate statistic because despite the fact that the system logs it as two separate sessions it really is just one. There is no description about accounting for this and it sounds like they're using the built in profile system which would lead me to believe that they're not.

    3. Re:PS3's High Session Times by iainl · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Alternatively, they may be just counting it as multiple sessions when I play Geometry Wars for 10 minutes before loading Forza 2, or when I stop playing for a couple of minutes to chat with one of my friends who has popped online before going back to the game. There are all sorts of things that 360 owners regularly do that could be breaking one "session" of sitting down to use it into little bits.

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    4. Re:PS3's High Session Times by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Plus the whole media center extender thing.... not to mention that you can use it to chat with your buddies.

  4. Wow by cromar · · Score: 2, Informative

    I didn't realize PS2 was quite THAT popular.

    1. Re:Wow by ZakuSage · · Score: 1

      Well with over 120 million consoles out there, it's not hard to see. Hopefully this will speak to the longevity of the console and give developers incentive to continue developing good PS2 games, as I'm not willing to fork out the cash for any next-gen console just yet.

    2. Re:Wow by hansamurai · · Score: 1

      I own a DS, Gamecube, PS2, Xbox, and Wii, (and many other older consoles) and the console I play the most by far is the PS2. Lately I've been playing the Guitar Heroes, Okami, and God of War 2. There are lots of great games on the system and many that I never played. And they're usually a lot cheaper too than the next-gen consoles (as seen in a previous slashdot article today).

  5. So what you're saying is... by feepness · · Score: 5, Funny

    The PS3 accounted for 1.5 per cent of console usage. Its users logged in an average of 1.9 sessions per day with an average session length of 83 minutes-the longest playing session of all consoles studied. They didn't account for load times, did they?
    1. Re:So what you're saying is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      what excessive load times are there on the PS3 as opposed to 360, wii, ps2?

      Is there any actual validity to your comment or is it just blatant trolling?

    2. Re:So what you're saying is... by feepness · · Score: 1

      what excessive load times are there on the PS3 as opposed to 360, wii, ps2? Obviously not a whole lot, if any. Therefore that would make attributing that to the extended playtime a joke.

      Which it was.
    3. Re:So what you're saying is... by AKAImBatman · · Score: 1

      Is there any actual validity to your comment or is it just blatant trolling?

      I do believe that the grandparent was invoking an old tradition that has been lost through time, known as a "joke". The purpose of this "joke" is to exaggerate a grain of truth to epic proportions, then deliver the information at an inopportune time. Apparently, this leads to a condition known as "laughter" resulting in the receiving subject breaking into fits of choking noises.

      The study of this "joke" is known as "humor". "Humor" should be avoided at all costs, least you also develop this "laughter" condition. You have been warned!
  6. Halo 2 (PC) outranks Counter Strike?! by El_Muerte_TDS · · Score: 3, Informative

    And 1.852% played the original Warcraft (giving it the same rank as Counter Strike; rank 8)?

    http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT= 104&STORY=/www/story/07-26-2007/0004632940&EDATE=

    Doesn't sound right if you ask me.

    1. Re:Halo 2 (PC) outranks Counter Strike?! by Buzz_Litebeer · · Score: 1

      Yea, sounds like some kind of BS, depends on how they do their stats though. They may be calling random sample of people at home, which may mean more people.

      If you go by how many play the game on-line its highly unlikely halo is more popular on the internet.

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  7. Well, Duh by LightPhoenix7 · · Score: 0, Troll

    So all that anecdotal evidence is finally backed up by numbers. Good to hear. Really, this is no surprise at all - the majority (86.5%) of game-playing households aren't even playing a next-gen system. We're also seeing the unsurprising breakdown of players - about 60% play a 360, 30% play a Wii, and the remaining 10% are playing PS3. I'm a bit surprised Wii numbers aren't higher - but then again the console is still effectively sold out, and is suffering from a lack of games still. The 360, by contrast, has been out longer and has more games. The PS3 continues to be the laughing stock of the gaming community as a whole - only the hardcore players are playing it. This data will be more interesting as time passes, and trends can be mapped. Also, I think numbers for the XBox (and, snerk, GC) need to be collected, since they're collecting them for the PS2. That way we can see a complete picture of the current and last generation.

  8. From the same report by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wii households more likely to be upscale

    So much for all of the PS3 fans saying that anyone who doesn't buy a PS3 must be poor.

    1. Re:From the same report by Spudtrooper · · Score: 1

      Yeah - they're not poor until after they buy the PS3.

  9. Priorities by Interl0per · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Might the fact that the less costly console appears in more affluent homes tell us something about the target market and priorities of those who purchase these machines? Also, why no numbers for PC, only rankings?

  10. ok, so what did i miss?? by hurfy · · Score: 2, Funny

    It says they track on 6 consoles. From the second link adding up the percents comes to less than 79%.

    Are 21% of them playing on the Phantom or something?

    Was interesting that the last gen console beat out its new counterpart in each case tho.

  11. Old PC Games by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Forget the consoles. This was the most interesting bit on the article:

    On the PC side Blizzard's World of Warcraft was the most played PC game in June, outranking the next most-played game (the original Halo) by four times.

    If I had invested in a game that came out in June, I'd be pissed at being beat by two games that came out years ago. What's the point of these fancy graphics and inflated budgets then???

  12. Slashdot seems to prefer least informative links by hurfy · · Score: 1

    Following the stories back to the actual press release to answer myself....

    * Other consists of any other console systems found in the home, such
    as vSmile, Sega, FC Twin video system, Game Wave Family Entertainment
    System, etc.

    Sega and the unknowns combined for more than the 3 next-gen consoles combined. Looks like Sega/NES/SNES combined for about the same as the next Gen consoles (the FC twin is NES/SNES). I think Nintendo got a sneak peak before they announced their non-hardcore strategy. If those numbers are even close i would have to agree.

  13. Re:I call Shenanigans by Farakin · · Score: 1

    I agree, did you know that in Chicago, pop say 4 million with some outer Burroughs, they only sample 2300 homes for TV ratings? I understand math has something to do with this, but I really think this is not an accurate reflection of what people are playing or watching.

  14. What does "Warcraft" really refer to by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    OK,

    It looks to me like "Warcraft" is getting false hits due to the ambiguity of the term. If somebody says they play "Warcraft", they are most likely referring to Warcraft III, or World Of Warcraft (though there could be some old school folks still playing Warcraft II).

    It should be obvious to anybody even remotely connected to the gaming world that the original warcraft couldn't possibly be in the top 10. Its inclusion on the list demonstrates a defect in Neilson's polling technique.

  15. Re:I call Shenanigans by geekoid · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I know 3 different people who have been Nielsen.
    You, or I, alone means exactly shit.

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  16. Re:I call Shenanigans by HotSIag · · Score: 1

    So, they say 33,000 users are tracked. US population is about 300,000,000. So, the sample size is about 0.011% ! Even by extremely generous rounding, there's no way it would even get to as high at 0.1%

    I'd hardly call that a good sample size. Plus take into account what the demographics of that sample size is. This is why I have absolutely no faith in Nielson. Not for TV, and especially not for video games.

  17. Re:I call Shenanigans by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I understand math has something to do with this...
    Haha. Yeah, I heard they may even being using some of that new-fangled "statistics" or something.