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Give iPod Thieves an Unchargeable Brick

Svippy writes "Apple has patented a technology for new generations of iPods that would detect when a user tries to operate the iPod on an unauthorised machine ... and will refuse to charge. Indefinitely. From the article: 'Every portable gadget with a rechargeable battery has a charging circuit that recognises when the external mains charger has been plugged in. It then manages the transfer of current to the battery. Apple's patent suggests that by attaching a "guardian circuit" to the charging circuit, it would be possible to block the charging process. When a device is plugged into an unauthorised computer, software would compare a security code in the device to a code buried in the software in the computer. Apple already employs a similar technology to "pair" iPods to iTunes running on a specific Mac or PC. If the codes do not match, then the guardian circuit could be triggered to prevent any further charging.'"

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  1. False positives by sleekware · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I can imagine this will raise a lot of false positives. It reminds me of Windows Genuine Advantage, only nastier...

    1. Re:False positives by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Why would you need "authorization" just to charge your iPod on any box, I wonder.

    2. Re:False positives by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 3, Insightful

      If they *did* think about implementing this on all pods then it would be unusable by me legally from my car or my homemade battery pack.

      I could only imagine it working only if you try working directly with an iTunes aware computer.
      If you connect it to an in-car charger there is no iTunes running from the car battery, so no comparison is possible at all.

      Developed right it wouldn't be a big deal and really could work.

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    3. Re:False positives by Hijacked+Public · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You might want to update your conspiracy theory: Apple doesn't include the first charger either.

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  2. It would be unfortunate by Paxton · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ... if car chargers won't work.

  3. Not the only use by Dan+East · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm sure the usefulness of this technology in other areas has been considered as well. Specifically, things like bricking a device because a subscription has run out, or disabling it because DRM rights have been violated. After all, once the hardware is in place, it can be used for other purposes by simple software "upgrades".

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  4. Bad idea by hcdejong · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I've recharged friends' iPods on my computer (which is obviously not authorized for that iPod). If that were to result in bricking the iPod, I'd be pissed.

    Unbricking the iPod when it's connected to an authorized computer would mitigate, but not solve, the problem.

  5. iPods and multiple machines by metlin · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I've already had hell with the ridiculous interface of iTunes and trying to sync my music across more than one machine (work + home + notebook).

    Now, on top of everything, it's going to refuse to charge unless I show that I am the owner on all three? Or maybe, I can only charge it on one?

    Either way, this is only making a bad problem worse.

    Bad enough that iTunes has more than once destroyed my music backup because I tried added music from another machine. Now it's also going to not let me use my iPod?

    Nice. And here I thought Apple was about usability.

  6. Re:weeee by EvanED · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Wait, forget using it on multiple machines. Does this suggest that you need to plug your iPod into ANY machine to charge it? You can't just plug it into the wall?

    If this is true, it seems like a really retarded idea to me. The times when I want an iPod the most -- when I'm on a trip -- are exactly the times when I'm not going to be near my machine and exactly the time when I'll need to charge it more.

  7. great idea by brunascle · · Score: 4, Insightful

    uh oh, your PC stopped booting? congratulations, you iPod just did too.

  8. Um... by GoodbyeBlueSky1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What about the (old-fashioned!) method of charging via wall-outlet? Do I have to register my apartment with Apple now?

    Something in this article seems fishy and I don't think we're getting the full story of Apple's intentions, because the whole thing makes zero sense to me.

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  9. Got a soldering iron? by TrebleJunkie · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Anyone with a soldering iron and a little time on their hands would likely be able to bypass this. You've got to have a battery somewhere, and you've got to have leads to that battery.

    Yeah, it means cracking open the device, but if you've stolen it, there's a good chance you're not going to care all that much about some pry marking on the case.

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  10. So my car charger is not authorized? by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 3, Insightful

    There are dozens of vendors like belkin selling simple chargers for iPods without using the USB ports. So they all wont be able to charge iPods? Apple can at best thwart iTunes/iPod link on devices reported to be stolen. But preventing charging? Nah.

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  11. Er, Stupid idea? by geoff+lane · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Concider the failure modes of such a scheme. Apart from the ones where the thief gets to use the iPod, they all result in the legitimate user losing the use of their iPod.

  12. Why are so many people getting this wrong? by astrosmash · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If the device detects that it has been stolen, through any number of means such as plugging in to an unauthorized computer or by geographic location, the device disables its charging circuit so that it can't be charged from any changer.

    It has nothing to do with the iPod only working with specific, Apple-branded, chargers. That would be stupid.

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