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AC = Domestic Terrorists?

Miang writes "A video from a recent FOX 11 (Los Angeles) newscast has surfaced on YouTube. In the segment, reporter Phil Shuman investigates so-called "Hacker Gangs" comprised entirely of anonymous users. The segment, which focuses mainly on users at 4chan, 7chan, and 420chan, seems to confuse /b/ raids and motivational poster templates with a genuine threat to the American public. For added FUD, the FOX team inserted an unrelated video of a van blowing up — twice! Presumably, one is intended to equate anonymous posting with domestic terror. The story and video can be found on the local FOX website, so it does not appear to be simply a clever parody." Cringe as you watch this video explain terms like 'LULZ' and show inspirational poster parodies as evidence of the evils of this terrifying "Group".

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  1. Fear the wrath of Anonymous! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    How dare you, Slashdot, call us - Anonymous, a COWARD?!

  2. I ... by LordKaT · · Score: 5, Funny

    I ... wha ... ha ... za ... fuh?

    Either the words don't exist to describe just how stupid these people are, or I'm too stupid to describe how stupid they are.

    And the FOX reporters are worse!

  3. I'm crazy! I'll do it! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm serious, you all step back, or i'll blow this place SKY HIGH!

    1. Re:I'm crazy! I'll do it! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Alex: Hi is this Fox News? I have a story for you. It's about this website full of evil people harrassing me!

      Fox reporter: How did you get this number? Get lost kid we have a war on terror to report on.

      Alex: But... butbutbut... They ARE terrorists! They... they.. they once threatened to destroy stadiums with carbombs!

      Fox reporter: Hmm I guess we can stretch this enough to make it Fox-worthy. Jackson, get my coat - we may have to blow up a minivan for dramatic footage just to be sure.

  4. The reason why they blew up the vans by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    They did it for the LULZ!

  5. But if you carry out threats anonymously.... by Durrok · · Score: 5, Funny

    .... you don't get any karma. :(

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    1. Re:But if you carry out threats anonymously.... by iknownuttin · · Score: 5, Funny
      .... you don't get any karma. :(

      Yeah, but when you die, you go to heaven and get 42 brand new computers - never used!

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  6. Hackers On Steroids by LackThereof · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Apparently, the ability to phish myspace passwords from clueless users earns you the title of "Hackers on Steroids" now. OMGWTFHAX!

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  7. I actually have sympathy.... by Umuri · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I actually have some sympathy for the reporters involved in this, because they have no clue what they're getting themselves in to.

    Anonymous is what happens when you give people the ability to act without reprecussions, a good portion of the world turns into total a**holes. And they will surely retaliate, for two reasons. The first being the justification that "oh, we're called domestic terrorists, we better at least do something worth that name now".
    The second being the justification "Umm, no. You totally misunderstand what we do here. We're just normal internet stupidity. want a sample? How about everyone in your company? We can do a mass raid if you want"

    The second already is happening in droves, if you'll notice their forums.

    Now, that said, the people i DON'T feel pity for are the "victims".
    The male victim, who fails at trying to be anonymous, now has his name, and his story, all over all of the *chans. All he's doing is trying to get revenge because anonymous wouldn't raid his stupid girlfriend and that they told him he was being a moron. He spends most of his time actively trying to spread dirt on the *chans, including warning potential raid targets, making up lies about what raids actually are.

    As for the female victim, her story is similarly stupid, but as I do not know the entire thing with all facts for certain, i will refrain from final judgement and spreading rumors.

    But for most raid "victims" in general, their main flaw was that they posted too much personal information online, and made a point of either harassing others, who happened to be anonymous, or whining to anonymous for favors.

    I am not anonymous, but it pays to know about them.

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    1. Re:I actually have sympathy.... by skrolle2 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      If there's anything else the victims have in common is that they take themselves way too seriously.

      The internet is a wonderful place, everyone can get their 15 minutes of fame, and more. However, it might not be the fame they want, and trying to control it is absolutely futile. Maybe posting some sob story on your livejournal that everyone on the internet can read isn't such a good idea, maybe posting too much skin on your myspace is a bad idea too. It's as if people forget why it's a good idea to protect your privacy when they go on the internet, and some of these people get burnt by it. I hope they learn something at least.

    2. Re:I actually have sympathy.... by Chmcginn · · Score: 5, Insightful

      actually have some sympathy for the reporters involved in this, because they have no clue what they're getting themselves in to.
      If reporters don't take the time to properly educate themselves on something before reporting on it, they're not doing their job, plain and simple. I don't have any sympathy for them - mainly because plenty of grandma & grandpa types who've never even heard of 4chan before that report now think their house will get firebombed if they post to the wrong message board.
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    3. Re:I actually have sympathy.... by oohshiny · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Anonymous is what happens when you give people the ability to act without reprecussions,

      And "reporter" is what happens when you have sunk so low that it doesn't matter anymore what you say as long as it's controversial.

      No matter how anonymity may be abused, it's an essential part of a functioning democracy and free society, because if you don't have it, the only people participating in discussions are those with nothing to lose.

    4. Re:I actually have sympathy.... by notnAP · · Score: 5, Funny
      what happens when you give people the ability to act without reprecussions, a good portion of the world turns into total a**holes.


      Are you referring to the hackers, the reporters, or FOX?

  8. Anonymous, not Anonymous Coward. by Virak · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Two completely different people. Anonymous Coward is a normal Slashdot user who merely has perpetually bad karma. Anonymous is, as the video states, an "Internet hate machine". He is the very personification of the deepest, darkest desires of the Internet. Which, of course, means he spends half of his time masturbating to strange pornography, the other half attacking easily-angered idiots for his personal amusement, and the other other half debating Bush, pedophilia, and quantum mechanics.

    1. Re:Anonymous, not Anonymous Coward. by Chmcginn · · Score: 5, Funny

      And the last half doing poor math? :P

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  9. They did bring us HP7... by rdwald · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Well, 4chan did let us all read Harry Potter 7 five days early...and the video does equate spoiling popular fantasy books with domestic terrorism...so I guess they are terrorists!

  10. Re:Hahaha... and I thought Slashdot was funny... by skrolle2 · · Score: 5, Funny

    They bought a dog. How are you gonna get past their dog? Huh? Huh? Didn't think of that, did you?

  11. You got a bunch of people by iminplaya · · Score: 5, Insightful

    right here on Slashdot who feel the same way. "I ignore ACs" "I don't respond to ACs" "I mod ACs to -6". I think it's sick. Those people are closed minded so-n-sos. Well, all you ACs out there, I DO respond if the comment is worth responding to. I don't care where it comes from. I derive value from the comment itself, not necessarily the author. Don't let anybody shut you down. Use whatever abilities you have to be heard.

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  12. Re:Yellow journalism at its finest by iamdrscience · · Score: 5, Funny

    Even as computers have become more popular, people who really like (and understand) computers haven't.
    Sounds like somebody couldn't get a date for the prom!
  13. HA! by iminplaya · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As long as they get this kind of press, they'll never get bored. The FOX story is a great recruitment piece.

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  14. /b/ is mainstream by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Seriously, /b/ is so mainstream now, it beggars belief. Here is a Slashdot article that mentions it in passing without so much as stopping to explain the term. This was always going to happen. A group of people focused around memes, with a subset of them bent on spreading these memes to other sites? There is no more perfect recipe for notoriety than that. Rules 1 and 2 have completely failed, just as miserably as they would fail in a real-life fight club (where did those new members come from anyway?).

    It's a shame really. For a short while, /b/ was a great little internet phenomenon. Anonymity, with all its baggage, and somehow no lawsuits. Now, though, the old guard is quickly moving on. Anybody who's frequented the site can attest to this.

    As for the FOX clip... pure garbage. Most /b/tards call images "pictures", and directories "folders", and get confused between wallpaper images and desktop screenshots. The /i/nvasion people are a little closer to "hacker gangs", but even then, the "hacking" only ever amounts to SYN flooding and MySpace phishing.

    Despite my pessimistic tone, I predict that "Anonymous" will continue to grow. As more and more attention is given to these "secret websites", more and more people are clamoring to become "hackers on steroids". This new Anonymous will be larger, with more brute force at his call, but at the same time stupider, and less apt to create entertaining content. And paradoxically, he'll be less anonymous than before. I see threads where a bunch of high-schoolers recognize each other based on posted photos and local memes. They greet each other by name and socialize. On /b/.

    They say that raiding /b/ is liking pissing in an ocean of piss. But what if the people doing the raiding aren't pissing? What if they think this is a kickass beach where they can hang out and go for a swim with their friends and not worry about taking a piss while they do? It's not cancer, it's a full-on mutation.

    1. Re:/b/ is mainstream by ObsessiveMathsFreak · · Score: 5, Informative

      /b/ is a cesspit. A conglomeration of all that is disturbing, perverted, juvenile, inane, humorous, annoying, offensive, shocking and vile. The site is much worse than the sum of its parts.

      And yet..... I'm glad it's there. I'm glad that there still exists a place where people can be offensive, racist and rude in all manner of ways. Frankly, the place warms my heart because of its simple honesty. It doesn't pretend to be anything other than the asshole of the internet. It even revels in it. I can respect that kind of honesty.

      Ultimately, the /b/tards are more human than the legions of Politically Correct hypocrites that plague our modern society. Humanity isn't always in the images of angels or gods. Sometimes we're altogether more earthly beings, and places like /b/ should serve to remind us of that. If /b/ did not exist, it would be necessary for someone to create it, because /b/ is a part of what humanity is.

      To finish off, anytime I have browsed /b/, despite the form of the post and their extreme vulgarity, I never get the vibe that the place is filled with genuinely evil individuals spewing hate and bile. It seems to me that the /b/tards are rather more akin to jesters, or cynics than to Nazi's or the KKK. /b/tards are more likely to laugh and deride such people than side with them. The site seems to be more playful than malicious.

      I can see the hypocritical legions of politicians, reporters and busybodies rallying to condemn /b/ as hell on earth, and I can see the /b/tards laughing and mocking them as they do so. But the possibility of the /b/tards being cowed and broken by such a crusade frightens me, because I think it's entirely possible that they will be sought out and persecuted by our modern witch hunters. To me, /b/, ugly as it is, represents our freedoms, and if it falls, I can't see how anything else truly worthwhile in our society can resist being torn down as well.

      Sites like /b/ are proof that our society still free. Perversely, its continuing existence akin to an eternal flame of liberty (A flame which no doubt /b/ would collectively attempt to fart on). If it gets snuffed out, I for one won't sleep soundly at night.

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  15. What's wrong with people. by iamdrscience · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How is it that after all these years, there are still people who don't realize that nothing that happens on the internet is real? That hot chick you've been chatting with? There's a 95% chance she is a dude and a 5% chance that she is fat, ugly and crazy. That dude who told you he would slit your whole family's throats and shit down their esophaguses because you like original Star Trek better than the Next Generation? He's 12 years old. Porn sites that say their girls are having sex for the first time? They're lying. That e-mail you got from a guy in Nigeria who wants to give you money? You're not going to get it.

    ad infinitum.

  16. Re:Conservative Fear by Charles+W+Griswold · · Score: 5, Funny

    As we've had to see for the past seven+ years, there is absolutely NOTHING which conservatives don't live in terror of.

    It's little wonder groups like Al Qaeda are outmaneuvering Bush and the other conservatives: the Bushites are so fearful, they only know what they can see from their "undisclosed location". Conservative = coward.

    Cowardservatives!

    "there is absolutely NOTHING which conservatives don't live in terror of" you say? Hmmm, I consider myself to be somewhat conservative, and yet there are quite a few things that I don't live in terror of. For instance, I'm not at all scared of bunny rabbits. Well, perhaps if I met the bunny rabbit that was featured in the absolutely terrifying documentary "Monty Python and the Holy Grail", I might be scared, but I certainly hold no fear of your average garden-variety bunny rabbit.

    Oh, yeah, plush Cthulhu toys. They don't scare me. Well, as long as they're not the plush Cthulhu slippers of course, but that goes without saying.

    Kiwi fruit. Sure, they scare me, but I think that "terror" is pushing it a bit far. I might cross the street to avoid one, but I've never yet run screaming from a Kiwi fruit.

    In conclusion, I would like to state that your characterization of conservatives as being terrified of absolutely everything is not only inaccurate, but comes close to li . . . libe . . . written slander. Sorry, I've always been terrified of that word.

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