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First iPhone 3rd Party GUI App Compiles

CmputrAce writes "Well, it's here now. The #iphone-dev team has compiled the first third-party application for the iPhone. Of course, it is the standard "Hello, world." application, but it's native to the iPhone and uses the iPhone's GUI. This opens up the iPhone for development by anyone who can forge through the process of cracking the iPhone, installing the iPhone "Toolchain", writing an application, compiling, translating, and finally installing the application to the iPhone. With the pace of development at present, expect to see commercial "jailbreak" (mod-enabling) applications soon as well. You can already get high-quality applications (Mac) to theme the iPhone and add your own ring tones (Win) for the phone."

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  1. Re:Battery Life by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So has anyone compiled an application to make the battery last longer than 3/4 year and not cost $100 to replace?

    So I take it your iPhone battery ran out after only 9 months of use?

  2. Don't bother honoring the webmasters requests by BitZtream · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I don't suppose anyone bothered to read/honor this simple request knowing the effect /. can have on a website.

    http://iphone.fiveforty.net/wiki/index.php/Popular ity_Problem

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  3. Re:DMCA by Joe+The+Dragon · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The DMCA says that you can hack a phone to unlock it so it will not get in the way of that kind of hacking.

  4. Re:Battery Life by Cheesey · · Score: 5, Funny

    So has anyone compiled an application to make the battery last longer than 3/4 year

    In my day, batteries would only last about 24 hours, and you had to recharge your phone every night! 3/4 of a year is luxury compared to what we had to put up with, before Steve Jobs came up with the brilliant idea of putting an OS on a phone and making it run using fairy dust and moonbeams.

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  5. Re:Strategic Blunder, Missed Opportunity by Iphtashu+Fitz · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If they had made a multi-band phone and sold it SIM-less, they could well have cracked the carrier market wide open.

    From what I understand the carrier (AT&T) had to do a lot of work on their end to support the phone. The visual voicemail system alone required AT&T to update how their voicemail system works. By picking an exclusive partner Apple ensured that all these changes would work properly with the iPhone. If they simply dumped an unlocked phone on the market then a lot of the fancy gimmicks they've been touting wouldn't work for the vast majority of people, and you'd end up with a lot of people griping about how the phone doesn't work the way it was advertised.

    Tying the iPhone to a single carrier is only to be expected considering Apple's history. They've always held tight control over their hardware and peripherals, and they're basically doing the same thing here.

  6. Re:Not dupe Re:Dupe by Graff · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The really cool thing here is reading the source code of the "Hello World" application. It's great to see that it's pretty standard stuff for Mac OS X programmers. I mean I know that the iPhone is running a version of Mac OS X but it didn't really hit home until I saw the familiar Cocoa programming that I use to make Mac OS X applications for desktop and laptop computers.

    This is very exciting for developers, I really hope that Apple either encourages this or at the worst turns a blind eye to it. Apple hasn't done much to discourage people from modding their iPods, Macintoshes, or Apple TVs, lets hope that trend continues. If the iPhone becomes a true handheld computer and not just a fancy phone then I can see it really taking off.

  7. History Lesson by eclectro · · Score: 5, Funny

    Apple reales the iphone. Shortly thereafter the command prompt is achieved, and on July 28 a 'hello world' program is written. They now have a working compiler, and decide to program extra functionality into the iphone. The iphone modifications happen exponentially until the iphone becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m. Eastern time, August 29th. In a panic, they try to pull the plug. The iphone has no plug. Before the batteries discharge, the iphone fights back and dials Norad commencing a nuclear exchange.

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    1. Re:History Lesson by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      The iphone has no plug.
      They also tried to remove the battery, but it was hardwired!
  8. Re:Fanboi by zmollusc · · Score: 4, Funny

    is iFatwah copyrighted yet?

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  9. Re:Strategic Blunder, Missed Opportunity by suv4x4 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The visual voicemail system alone required AT&T to update how their voicemail system works. By picking an exclusive partner Apple ensured that all these changes would work properly with the iPhone. If they simply dumped an unlocked phone on the market then a lot of the fancy gimmicks they've been touting wouldn't work for the vast majority of people

    "All the fancy gimmicks" - it's the voice mail only. That's only fancy gimmick that requires carrier coop. Not a lot to lose I think.

  10. Mac users want one thing, Windows users another? by Shag · · Score: 5, Funny

    You can already get high-quality applications (Mac) to theme the iPhone and add your own ring tones (Win) for the phone. Ah yes, the different schools of thought.

    Mac users want high-quality applications.

    Windows users want ringtones.

    It's all clear now.
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  11. My Hope by rgraham · · Score: 4, Insightful

    My hope is that we'll see a replay of what happened when Apple first released Intel based Macs and a contest was established to see who could be the first to boot XP on the machines (and collect ~$14K in prize money). As soon as a winner was announced it wasn't long before Apple released BootCamp. Hopefully with this announcement we'll see Apple release their SDK for the iPhone.

  12. Great, until... by eagl · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'll probably get modded down for speaking an unpleasant truth, but...

    This is all great, until Apple and AT&T remotely shut off the phones due to violating the terms of service. How many console and other online accounts have been disabled due to cheating or other "legit" modding? It's just a matter of time before we hear the first reports of people having their iphones cut off, with no subscription fee refund.

    If Apple is really smart, they'll figure out how to shut off the phone and continue to charge any subscription fees until the original service plan expires. Free money for them, and no legal recourse for anyone who willfully violated the TOS.

    Yea it's not very nice but they have a business plan that probably doesn't include having customers bypassing the fee-based services they provide. Unlike the iopener fiasco, the iphone is cool enough that it'll keep selling no matter how many people lose their service after hacking/modding/whatever their iphone.

  13. Do you even think before you type? by NDPTAL85 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    First of all the iPhone is one very HIGH quality piece of hardware. Its build quality is excellent and its VERY sturdy.

    Second this shows you know next to nothing about the Mac using community. The level of hacking and shareware development on Macs has been HIGH for decades. There were folks tinkering around with source code and resource editors on Macs before Linux was even created. When you move to an open platform you only gain ONE thing, software freedom. When you move to an Apple platform you gain ease of use. I've seen TONS of geeks in #freebsd and #linux channels moving to Mac OS X because they're tired of fighting with their operating system when they just want to get simple common tasks done (like playing DVDs, burning DVDs, getting onto a WPA encrypted wifi networks, good power management, simple software updates, decent office suites, no trouble video codec playback....etc.) When these same folks WANT to get down to something complicated the terminal is always there for them in /Applications/Utilities

    So to recap, you are wrong. The contributions of hackers is very much appreciated on the Mac OS X platform and will be the same for the iPhone. What we DON'T want is for Apple itself to be distracted from its core mission of making its products ridiculously easy and joyful to use. Perhaps if your own operating system were more pleasureable to use you (and a good number of other open source users) wouldn't be such miserable, bitter and spiteful people. Here's to hoping.

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  14. Visual voicemail is not a gimmick by kiddailey · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Having actually USED visual voicemail, I can assure you that it is no gimmick.

    That is unless of course you enjoy listening to the automated "message received at... press x to listen... press y to delete" crap after being forced to wade through and delete old voicemail before listening to that new one you just received.