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30 Years For Online Pharmacy Spammer

jotter507 writes "So, you get arrested for running an illegal online pharmacy and the judge orders you to stop selling medication over the Internet. Don't sit around and do nothing before the trial! Run off to the Dominican Republic on a false passport, withdraw money from an account ordered frozen, and start up another online 'pharmacy.' It didn't end well for 27-year old Christopher William Smith, also known as 'Rizler.' The world-reviled spammer and Internet drug dispenser received a 30-year sentence from a federal judge on Wednesday."

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  1. Before anyone calls this sentence excessive by elrous0 · · Score: 5, Informative
    Keep in mind that this guy did a LOT more than just spamming or even selling drugs. He fled the country, was laundering money, and (most egregiously) was trying to hire a hitman to kill one of the children of a witness against him.

    In other words...good riddance scumbag.

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    1. Re:Before anyone calls this sentence excessive by Creepy · · Score: 2, Informative
      Just to clarify, the money wasn't laundered, more concealed - he hid a lot of it in cereal boxes (1.1 million). Laundering is sending it through accounts and/or businesses to conceal its origins and make it clean money in the account. I've never read that he did that.

      He also didn't really "flee" the country - as I understand it, he used a fake passport to go to the Dominican Republic to set up his pharmacy there after it was shut down in 2005, then _returned_ to Minnesota and continued spamming and selling drugs. This is what was deemed to be a blatant disregard for a court order and part of the reason why the punishment was so severe.

      whether he was seriously threatening the witness or not is debatable.

      In the phone call, Smith told Roanna Cleofe that he wanted her to arrange to have someone take photos of Hollis' children. If Hollis wants to testify, she can, he said. "We're going to give her the option of which one of her kids she's going to sacrifice for doing so."

      Cleofe, who has been charged in connection with the alleged threat, told an FBI agent that she didn't believe Smith was serious.
              - Dan Browning, Star Tribune (story link), 2-Aug-2007


      heh - I just noticed that story hyperlink is leet (1337 [+ 623])
  2. Anarchism != Libertarianism by dazedNconfuzed · · Score: 4, Informative

    Get your "ism"s straight.

    Libertarianism would certainly not tolerate this guy, as he was running a scam, committed what any sane person would consider real crimes, and solicited murder - exactly the kind of thing Libertarians DO want a government around to deal with, and deal with harshly & efficiently.

    The word you're looking for is Anarchism - where everything he did would be legal precisely because absolutely nothing would be illegal, and that because there would be no government to declare anything illegal.

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    1. Re:Anarchism != Libertarianism by spun · · Score: 4, Informative

      That's not anarchism. You do know that libertarianism is a just a minor sub-branch of individualist anarchism, right? Anarchism means no heirarchy and no initiation of force, not no organization or laws.

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  3. There's a reason... by KingSkippus · · Score: 2, Informative

    It would be nice if people didn't post "print" links to articles. Lots of times this cuts out the advertising that the publisher has on the web page.

    There's a reason people post "print" link to articles instead of to the ad-laden one, and it's the publishers' faults.

    It's because for years now, we the consumers have been so abused with web publishers pushing ads on us that we immediately jump to defend ourselves against them, whether it's justified or not. If Internet publishers had been reasonable all these years and given us an ad or two with our content, it wouldn't be a problem, and I seriously doubt there would be such a backlash against ads nowadays.

    But that's not what happened. Once a few publishers found out that they could make some money with ads, they figured they could make even more money with ads. So then we had pop-ups, pop-unders, animated bouncy ads, flash gizmos, interstitials, etc.

    And as a direct result of that, now we have AdBlock plus and links to the print version of articles, and publishers are making less money from ads because of their collective greed and abuse. Unfortunately, sites such as the Star Tribune, which actually doesn't have many ads, have to suffer as well because of the sins of their industry. It may not be right, and it may not be fair, but it's just the mode we all necessarily have to operate in today.

    For what it's worth, though, here is the ad-laden link to the article if you want give it some eyeballs. One good thing about it: If you follow it instead of the link to the print version, you get to see what this son of a bitch looks like.

  4. Re:It is an excessive sentence by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 3, Informative

    The main difference here is that in the US sentences are added up upon one another, whereas in most of the rest of the world they run concurrently.

    No, that is by no means a hard and fast rule.

  5. Re:Hah! by king-manic · · Score: 4, Informative

    now I am going to be stuck footing the bill for 30 years of keeping this worthless piece of crap alive in a prison where bleeding heart pansies have demanded that criminals be treated better than the average citizen. So he will have cable, a gym, free food, a place to sleep, etc...I'm sure plenty of homeless would kill for that (and probably have because we have set up such a sweet deal for them). For all your "prison is a rough place" people...I imagine living on the street, not eating, and frequently being beaten or killed by moron teens for sport, or maybe mauled for insurance fraud reasons, is probably a bit worse.

    Prison isn't fun. A friend of mine spend 2 in a Canadian prison for sellign pot and turned his life around because he never wants to go back. This is a massively built black guy who would never have to worry about beingont he receiving end of prison rape.

    The whole "but homeless people would kill to be there" is a fallacy too. Life on the streets is rough but you still have some freedoms to massage your vices or turn it around. In America/Canada you still can eat regularly as well and you pan handle enough to get some booze or food fairly easily. How often do you hear in hedlines that a homeless person comitted a crime to go to prison. I have never heard of this. I live in one of the coldest cities in NA. I'm sure it happens in some places but the arguementis a fallacy because our prisons here and there aren't filled with homeless. Their filled with drug dealers. Check the stats.

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  6. Re:Hah! by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 4, Informative

    In America they teach you to pursue the "American Dream." This guy does he gets 30 years, meanwhile the guy who rapes your preteen daughter gets 3-5.

    The guy wasn't "just" a spammer. He ran an online pharmacy, and his assistant (whose children he tried to have killed) was responsible for procuring Vicodin for him to sell.

    He was a fraud, a fugitive, and a would-be killer. He was also apparently willing to sell your teenage daughter real narcotics, and did so often enough that the gov't sold 1.6 million dollars worth of his cars at auction. Sorry, I can't drum up a lot of sympathy for him.

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  7. Easier way. by alcmaeon · · Score: 2, Informative

    The "paperwork" would have consisted of a letter from your bankruptcy attorney to the bank giving your bankruptcy case number (I usually include a courtesy copy of the first page of the filed petition) and citing 11 U.S.C. 362. Faxing the letter usually results in the account being released within an hour or two, at least in my experience and IAAL. I don't even charge extra for this but YMMV.

  8. He sold many things of different legality by billstewart · · Score: 4, Informative
    According to Wikipedia article and this article, Smith sold a lot of different things over the years. Some of them allegedly included
    • Genuine pharmaceuticals, with high prices and potentially-dodgy prescriptions (e.g. his pet doctor would prescribe you hydrocodone).
    • Penis pills, including genuine Viagra and also dubious enhancement products.
    • Cable TV descramblers of dubious legality
    • Fake college degrees (or real degrees from non-accredited colleges, or something like that.)
    • He also violated anti-spam laws, and was ordered to pay AOL a lot of money for spamming their customers, and has been accused of using a variety of less-legitimate methods to get his spam delivered.

      Also, of course, after being convicted but before being sentenced, he tried to stash some of money where the Feds couldn't get it, which is not the brightest way to get the judge to take it easy on you.

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  9. Re:Excuse me? by SpamIsLame · · Score: 1, Informative

    How was the perp able to withdraw money from a frozen account?

    -jcr

    > How was the perp able to withdraw money from a frozen account? From the sentencing transcript, available here:

    On June 6, 2005, in an act that he later admitted was directly in violation of the Court's preliminary injunction, Smith made two withdrawals from Xpress Pharmacy Direct's U.S. Bank account (of $1,000 each, plus transaction fees) by way of Xpress Pharmacy Direct cash card previously issued to Smith. Smith made the withdrawals from a casino located in Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic. The U.S. Bank account had been frozen by the Court's preliminary injunction, but was temporarily unfrozen by the receiver for the purpose of paying employees.
    SiL
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