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Open Standards Initiative Fails in Massachusetts

walterbyrd writes "Massachusetts has decided to use Microsoft's Open-XML standard. This decison: 'stands in sharp contrast to the positions taken by predecessor CIOs Peter Quinn and Louis Gutierrez, backed by then governor (and now-presidential hopeful) Mitt Romney. Both Quinn and Gutierrez insisted on including only "open standards" in the ETRM, and withstood significant pressure from Microsoft to give ground and accept OOXML...'"

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  1. Well, it took time... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I guess the good news is how long it took Microsoft to kill it. They are not as good as they used to be with the FUD.

    1. Re:Well, it took time... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      All I can hope for is that in {enter date of choice here} years time that all the docs in MA that were arcdhived in OOXML format become unreadable and totally useless as OOXML V25 (or whatver) drops support for V1.
      Meanwhile those that were archived with other open (as well as properly documented) formats are still available to the masses.

      Any organisation going for OOXML are just asking to get stuffed in the future. Microsoft could enforce DRM and other nasties on the users and then start charging for every access to the document even though the content might be your copyright, they hold the strings over the format.
      Just like the Monks in the Middle Ages did paper books. Knowelege is POWER. Control of the access to the Knowelege is ABSOLUTE POWER

      Just my warped $0.02 worth on this dark day.

  2. Actually... by bomanbot · · Score: 5, Insightful

    if you read TFA it says that they are including both ODF and Open XML as acceptable document formats.

    So while the original intention to only include really open formats is regrettably given up (curiously by an interim CIO, why does he decide that if he is only a temporary hire?), it is not like ODF got dumped for the Microsoft format.

    1. Re:Actually... by visualight · · Score: 5, Insightful

      what?

      By including a non-open format they are locked in to MS products. Not being locked in was the point of the entire endeavor.

      --
      Samsung took back my unlocked bootloader because Google wants me to rent movies. They're both evil.
  3. Re:Just goes to show... by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Ya gotta love government corruption! The bottom line here, folks, is that we're getting a view of exactly how ugly politics and business are here in the United States. Because the tech journals have been covering this topic under a microscope, we see what the true stripes of government look like, from our own geek perspectives.

    If you think it's just Microsoft, you're sadly mistaken. Most big corporations participate in this sort of shenanigans, and it plays into every law that gets passed and every candidate that gets elected.

    Not to worry too much, though. The revolution will come soon enough. (No, it won't be me starting it, nor do I know who it will be, so back off Carnivore/Echelon/whatever)

  4. Report from Switzerland (Meeting of SNV/UK14) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Just yesterday I was sitting in the relevant meeting of SNV/UK14 (http://www.snv.ch/), that decides how Switzerland will vote. The chairman (Hans-Rudolf Thomann) explained the following rules:
    - we are here to create standards, not to reject them
    - if we reach consensus (>=75%) to vote for Microsoft, we will vote for Microsoft
    - if we only reach a majority (>=50%) to vote for Microsoft, we will vote for Microsoft
    - if we reach a majority to vote against Microsoft, we will vote for Microsoft
    - if we reach consensus to vote against Microsoft, we will abstain

    The present spin doctors of Microsoft and ECMA managed to convince Mr. Thomann to reject every serious technical and general concern we had regarding OOMXL by pointing to compatibility reasons. At the end we had a majority _against_ Microsoft but which (giving the unfair rules) results in a Swiss vote _for_ Microsoft. Mr. Thomann was fretting and fuming at the end of the meeting how it can be that successful international companies (we had representatives from IBM, Google, ...) vote against the best interest of their customers and theirself!

    Yes, this is how the democratic system at SNV / ISO works. After the meeting I could not eat as much as I wanted to puke...

    Posted as AC for obvious reasons

  5. Not Quite So Cut And Dry by Arccot · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's sad so many people instantly think "corruption" when the government makes a decision they don't agree with. Isn't it possible Microsoft made a better case for their standard? A decision like this is like a civil court case, the person with the best argument wins.

    Of the top of my head, I can think of a few reasons lawmakers (from their perspective) might want to use Microsoft's standard before any others:

    1. Microsoft is a very large, very well known company. They will be around for a very long time to support any of their formats.

    2. Microsoft creates a lot of jobs.

    3. Most government offices use Microsoft Office on Microsoft Windows for word processing, so Microsoft is the best format to use since the government is already integrated with their products.

    This is probably what the politicians were thinking about, and from that perspective, Microsoft looks like the right choice. Most decisions in government are not bought and sold, they are negotiated based on the better argument.