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Microsoft Says "War on Terror" is Overblown

SlinkySausage writes "The endless security measures imposed on society as a result of the "war on terror" have become overblown and intrusive, according to Microsoft Redmond senior security analyst Steve Riley. He made the comments in a talk at day one of Tech.Ed Australia about software security. Riley also fessed up that Microsoft cocked up XP from a security perspective. "We let you down with XP," he said. Microsoft also showed a very interesting new desktop virtualisation technology called SoftGrid, which allows applications to be virtualised individually, rather than a whole OS. Think Virtual PC or VMware, but instead of virtualising an OS, just a single application is virtualised."

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  1. Our way of life is not under threat! by Ckwop · · Score: 5, Insightful

    In the United Kingdom we lost fifty or so people in the carnage of bombings last-year, in the United States you lost four or so thousand.

    I don't for a second want to say that the loss of these lives through an unspeakable act of senseless violence is a trivial matter, but we need to put these figures in perspective. In the United Kingdom, more are killed in road traffic accidents in a couple of weeks than were in the July 7th bombings. In the United States roughly three times as many people are killed in gun accidents per year than 9/11.

    Somebody even said to me that more people were killed putting their socks on in the United Kingdom than by terrorists last-year. It's probably true. This stuff is right in the noise level of the threats we encounter each day. It's dramatic when we see some idiots attempt to blow a car up at Glasgow airport but in terms of actual risk, these people are up there with being struck by lightning or having a bad reaction to asprin.

    So why is there talk about trading liberty for security? Even though the security vs liberty argument is as flawed as the mythical man month, the point still remains - why do I need this extra security anyway? It's expensive, it costs me my rights and it's ineffective.

    It feels like that we've forgotten what it is really like to be a nation threatend with annihilation. In the 1940s our country nearly didn't make it and we have the United States to thank for that as much as our own heroic airmen. That was a time where the agressors really could have destroyed our way of life. Yet we did not yield in the face our adversity. We held our resolve!

    And we should hold our resolve now. In comparison to the Nazis these modern day terrorists are like flies trying to stare down a tank. I don't know whether to laugh or cry why we even take them so seriously. We should not give a shred of our liberty to these people - they are pathetic and worthless; you only need to look at the Glasgow "terrorist" attack to see this for yourselves.

    Simon

    1. Re:Our way of life is not under threat! by Kjella · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Our way of life is not under threat!

      I agree it's not under threat by terrorism. But, there are several issues that should be of concern which have far greater support among muslims, including but not limited to:

      * Freedom of speech
      * Women's rights
      * Homophobia
      * Religious law
      * Forced marriage
      * Repressed view of nudity and sexuality
      * Female sex mutilation
      * Honor killings

      I know some of these are not tied directly to islam, but they occur mainly in islamic communities and islamic leaders are not doing enough to stop, or are even encouraging these practises. In general, I have the impression that many muslims are far more intolerant towards our way of life and hold values which I quite frankly find unacceptable. I'm not pretending Europe has had too many of these notions too long, 100 years ago women couldn't vote, 50 years ago people were being put on trial for erotic novels and 35 years ago being gay was a crime here in Norway. But in my opinion we have made great strides in recent years ensuring equality for all and that everyone is free to pursue their own happiness. The muslims are on the whole a very reactionary group that in my opinion is threatening to undo much of the progress we have made. What bugs me the most is the complete lack of symmetry - if we go to Saudi Arabia, they want us to respect their culture (or face Sharia). If they come here, respect for our culuture is slim to none.

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  2. Let you down with XP by chatgris · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They say this now, when there is Vista to buy. It's just part of Microsofts standard strategy... Release new operating system, try and make the old one look bad.

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  3. Re:Virtualizing Applications by TheRaven64 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Or think 'operating system.' That's what an operating system does. It virtualises the computer's resources and multiplexes them for applications. It multiplexes memory and gives each process its own address space. It multiplexes disk and gives each process its own virtual disks (files). It (or a userspace delegate) multiplexes video and gives each process its own virtual screen (a window or virtual terminal). It multiplexes the speakers and gives each application its own sound device (a virtual channel). It multiplexes input devices and switches them between apps.

    Everything old is new again.

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  4. Choose "cry". by khasim · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't know whether to laugh or cry why we even take them so seriously.

    Consider what we COULD be doing with the money spent on this.

    The Cold War ended. The world was as close to Peace as it has ever been. We could have been investing in so many things to help the human race as a whole.

    Instead we're spending trillions of dollars "fighting" a few thousand nutcases who can't do any more damage to the world than we do to ourselves, every year, in traffic accidents.
    1. Re:Choose "cry". by Xtravar · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The Cold War ended. The world was as close to Peace as it has ever been. We could have been investing in so many things to help the human race as a whole. Hey man, the defense industry needs to eat, too! What, you expect them to go out of business in times of peace?

      And this is the problem with militarily-funded businesses. They have incentive to not have peace.
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    2. Re:Choose "cry". by MightyMartian · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The worst part about all of this is the lack of recognition that other parts of the world have been suffering under this very same breed of Jihadist for a lot longer than the US. Both China and Russia have been dealing with this religious nutcases for years prior to 9-11. Heck, part of the reason they're so widespread in the Muslim world is because Saudi Arabia has been exporting its maniacs so that they cease to be its problem.

      The West now only concerns itself because suddenly we're the direct targets of their actions. Those actions are wildly successful because they're so visible. The fact that automobile accidents are far more deadly, or that more people die due to choking than the terrorists could ever hope to kill is besides the point. Those aren't sexy, top-of-the-hour, bonechilling, fingernail-biting, paranoia-inducing stories.

      I have pointed out to people who think that Jihadists are getting ready to blow up their supermarket that the people of Leningrad and London put up with attacks of such intensity, such lethal effectiveness and such destruction that it makes a hole in the Pentagon and two downed office towers look like a joke.

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    3. Re:Choose "cry". by Entropius · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Grandparent wasn't saying that the world would have been at absolute peace without the US invading Iraq.

      But the world was doing pretty well -- sure, the Middle East was trying to kill itself, but it's *always* doing that. The people with the *serious* militaries, however, were at peace. We had a golden opportunity to *not* spend our national wealth on the military; for the first time there were really no serious military threats to Western democracy. We could have done something useful... ... and instead, we go start a dumbshit war that's wasted more American blood and money.

    4. Re:Choose "cry". by wild_berry · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Peace was not disrupted by the United States

      But the intervention across the globe by Western governments since the end of WWII is that disruption of peace which makes enemies of those we and our governments have screwed over.

  5. Re:Karma gets even with MS! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful
    From TFA:

    "It's measured against the current cost of leaving things as they are - if a couple of machines go down every week because of security vulnerabilities, that is a cost which can be measured and taken into consideration. However, if the cost is actually less than the cost of removing the problem , bizarre as it may sound, it might not actually be worth it."

    Hmmmm.... Maybe Microsoft really does understand why I refuse to intsall Vista on my network.

  6. "We let you down with XP" by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 5, Insightful

    But now we have something *new* that fixes all those problems! Really! So hand us more money, now!

    Chris Mattern

  7. Re:What's the big security problem with XP? by twitter · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Vista is not selling, so XP must be killed. They do this with every OS, so you might as well imagine that it's 2011 and Win9 is out and they let you down with Vista.

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  8. Tiny Sliver of Hope by rossz · · Score: 4, Insightful

    People might get the wrong impression that I think all Muslims are murdering terrorists. Not so. There a lots of them who find the actions of the extremists repugnant. The problem is we rarely, if ever, here from them. Print a comic "insulting Mohammad" and there is rioting in the streets. An Islamic extremist murders a bunch of children and the silence is deafening. This MUST change.

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  9. Re:Karma gets even with MS! by radl33t · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Since when did failure become a path to success?

    Ever since scientific thinking birthed our enlightenment.

  10. Re:Karma gets even with MS! by cmacb · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Not to mention...

    As Microsoft always does, now that the NEW version is out, they have suddenly become aware and willing to talk openly about how miserable a failure the OLD version was.

    Microsoft continues to go to the bank on the basis of "You CAN fool MOST of the people ALL of the time."

    How much longer will this formula work for them?

  11. Re:Karma gets even with MS! by nugneant · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Ten years ago, this would be a really exciting development. Too bad that now, when MS talks about "security", they mean "DRM"... I don't care if I was "let down" with XP, I'm sticking with it into the forseeable future, because at least I know that XP isn't wasting CPU cycles to cripple my content on my computer.

    Fuck Vista.

  12. Re:It's not terrorism that threatens it by Grishnakh · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I disagree.

    It used to be this way with immigrants from Europe, etc. However, it is not this way with Islamic immigrants.

    A recent poll in Britain found that most second-generation immigrants want Sharia Law to be instituted there. This isn't the first-generation immigrants from Pakistan and elsewhere; this is their kids, who grew up in Britain. The first-generation immigrants don't seem to be causing any problems; they just want a decent life and job. Their kids are embracing the ways of radical Islam. The same thing is happening in France.

    There was a movie about this a while ago, called "My Son the Fanatic". Check it out.

  13. Re:Karma gets even with MS! by EdBear69 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As Microsoft always does, now that the NEW version is out, they have suddenly become aware and willing to talk openly about how miserable a failure the OLD version was. This is Vista marketing at its finest. And in the fine tradition of Microsoft Marketing, it's a FUD attack against the product with the largest market share, in this case WinXP. Never mind that the product in question is put out by the same company.
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  14. SoftGrid? Wha? by bussdriver · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Virtual machines per application?
    So next they will want to save RAM and speed things up with pass-thru hooks like what is already done with the virtual network interfaces but taken to the next level... It seems like a bad progression towards an actually working OS... How about we get the OS to WORK with the memory protection and better manage abstracted hardware??

    Am I the only one who sees virtual machines as a solution to problems that mostly shouldn't exist or at least not to the severity that one would seriously consider that a solution?