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Sun Lowers Barriers to Open-Source Java

Shyane writes "Sun Microsystems is making it easier for open-source programmers to ensure their Java versions meet the company's compatibility requirements, but the deal extends only to those involved in Sun's own open-source Java project. The program grants access to its Java Technology Compatibility Kit to anyone with an open-source Java project that is based substantially on Sun's open-source Java software and governed by the GPL. Programmers need access to the test kit to prove that a project is in compliance with the Java specification. Projects that pass Sun's compatibility kit tests also can use the official Java logos for free."

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  1. Riots break out across the world... by vigmeister · · Score: 4, Funny

    as programmers discover that the test suite only runs on Windows.

    Cheers!

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    1. Re:Riots break out across the world... by somersault · · Score: 4, Funny

      Riot police realise that they don't actually need to do anything when all the geeks have an allergic reaction to the sunlight, and have to rush home for more pizza and caffeine to recover

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      which is totally what she said
  2. Re:So what about gcj? by loubs001 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Fortunately the GNU Classpath guys are right on board with OpenJDK. One of their most prominent members Dalibor Topic (who's the lead on the Kaffe VM) is on the OpenJDK governence board and works with Sun and other representivies on managing the project. Other promiment members like Roman Kennke, David Gilbert, Mario Torre and others. are active on the OpenJDK mailing lists and submitting patches. They are all interested in becoming regular contributors to the project.

    Other GNU Classpath developers working for Red Hat were very quick to produce a version of OpenJDK using pieces of Classpath to fill the wholes of "encumbered" components that havent been open sourced (like the font, graphics and sound engines that were licensed by Sun by 3rd parties). This is called IceTea. Though its more of a quick 'n dirty temporary project to have a completely GPL JDK right now until the holes can be plugged properly. For example, Sun released a more sophistated FreeType based font engine this week, and the rest of the holes will eventually be filled. But for now, IceTea is a great playground for experimentation. And as far as I can tell, Red Hat wants to contribute anything useful back in OpenJDK.

    You might that the GNU Classpath guys would be dissapointed, feeling that their hard work is obsolete, but no, they're happy because they know they were a big part of the reason why OpenJDK exists, and they're looking forward to contributing.

  3. Re:Openness! by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 5, Funny

    Seriously, I was pissed when I found out just how bad Java support is for Linux PPC. I couldn't get an iMac to go to Yahoo! games for my grandma. :(

    You gave your own grandma an iMac and then put Linux on it?

    Why do you hate your grandma?

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  4. You failed programming, didn't you? by Dancindan84 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Java is a nice toy programming language, for those people who can't afford a 'real' compiler, Like Borland, or Even Microsoft. Hell, even GCC does a better job than most java interpreters. That's just golden.
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  5. Just starting out with Java by RockHorn · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I am a fledgling java developer, and so far I'm loving it! Every time I hear about the advances Sun is making towards GPLing java, the more I feel justified in taking the time to learn java.

    I came into this business from a bit of a back door (although I suspect it to be a common back door these days). I started with spaghetti code PHP, moved to OOP php with php4, then php5. I am now quite frustrated by the partial OOP implementation of php5, as I develop more complex applications. I become even more frustrated with PHP the more I learn about java. The type safety at compile time makes it far easier to develop bug-free code. Method overloading is problematic in php, I usually end up implementing a single function with all sorts of optional arguments, and checks to determine whether a particular parameter is an array.

    Additionally, Java gives me code re-use at it's ultimate. For instance, I write a single been that updates our LDAP; I then use that bean in a JSF web application, in a batch program running on an an IBM iSeries, in a command line application on Linux, and most recently in a Swing application. Having written the bean once when developing the first application, I never had to write a single LDAP query when developing my latter applications. Any bugs I find in the bean from one of the apps means the bug gets fixed for all the other apps.

    Not to mention that I do my development on my Mac, and deploy software across our organization to Windows and Linux desktops.

    Write once run anywhere for sure - I'm sold!

  6. Re:Java Programmers == Typists by AKAImBatman · · Score: 4, Insightful
    You fail it.

    That is, Compile it's own Compiler.

    Failure #1: Java's compiler is written in Java. The first use of the early Oak/Java VM was to get the compiler self-compiling.

    To Me, a Programming Language is 'Real' When it can fully bootstrap itself.

    Failure #2: Java *can* bootstrap itself just fine, thank you very much.

    http://www.jnode.org/
    http://jikesrvm.org/

    "A distinguishing characteristic of Jikes RVM is that it is implemented in the Java(TM) programming language and is self-hosted i.e., its Java code runs on itself without requiring a second virtual machine."

    being an interpreted language, fails that test miserably.

    Failure #3: You called Java an interpreted language. Java is a compiled language that runs on a virtual machine. Like most VM-based platforms, that provides two options. The first is to interpret the bytecodes directly. The second is to compile the bytecodes into native code at runtime using a Just In Time Compiler. The most common JIT compiler for Java is the HotSpot VM. HotSpot is quite capable of keeping pace with and even exceeding the performance of native code.

    http://www.idiom.com/~zilla/Computer/javaCbenchmar k.html

    I've once seen a student project, a java interpreter, written in Java.

    Failure #4: You see these things, yet you fail to take the time to understand them. You have failed as a geek. Turn in your member card immediately and leave in shame.