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Epic Opens Counterclaim Against Silicon Knights

You may recall the recent announcement of Silicon Knights' suit against Epic over the Unreal engine. The Escapist reports that Epic is firing back, launching a countersuit against SK and claiming this is all just a ploy to renegotiate their licensing deal. "In its counter-suit, however, Epic says that Silicon Knights was aware that the Unreal Engine 3 was still under development when the licensing deal was signed, and that new features would continue to be added as part of Epic's development of Gears of War. 'SK's lawsuit is a pretense,' [Epic's Mark] Rein said in his statement. 'SK does not have any valid claims against Epic. SK filed suit in a bid to renegotiate the License Agreement, in the hope that Epic will prefer that to the burden of responding to discovery and associated adverse publicity.' Epic is seeking minimum compensatory damages in excess of $650,000, as well as other injunctive relief."

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  1. Re:Bah! by Hench3 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    SK's original lawsuit is actually rather detailed: They lay out the case well and describe specific instances of Epic's breach of their agreement. I recommend actually reading SK's filing; it makes for interesting reading. The /. summaries are lacking in details, yes, but the linked articles/filings do provide a vast amount of detail. Try reading TFA next time.

  2. Other game devs having problems? by axia777 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Where are the other that are having such problems with the UnReal 3 engine? I know LOTS of other companies are using it, so how many are having such difficulties? Is this a case of one company, Silicon Knights, messing up big time and wanting their money back for their fuck up? Or is this a case of them being the only company to go public about how much UnReal 3 sucks donkey turds? I guess the courts will figure it out, but it just seems strange to me that Silicon Knights are the only ones bitching about UnReal 3, that I have heard of, and I read A LOT of on-line news sites. From Gamasutra to Gamespot(where I read about this story first actually) to GameDaily. No one else has said a word. Anyone here have links to any other stories about companies complaining about UnReal 3?

    1. Re:Other game devs having problems? by grapeape · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I dunno but I have a hard time beliveing its just coincidence that every single game using the ue3 engine due to be released this year has hit at least one delay.

      Aliens -- (2009) Gearbox Software
      America's Army 3.0 -- (2008) US Army
      APB -- (2008) Webzen
      Black Powder Red Earth - (2007) Echelon Studios
      Brothers In Arms: Hell's Highway -- (2007) Gearbox Software
      BioShock - (2007) Irrational Games
      BlackSite: Area 51 -- (2007) Midway Austin
      DC Comics MMO -- (TBA) Sony Online Entertainment
      Earth No More -- (2009) Recoil Games / 3D Realms
      Elveon -- (2007) 10tacle Studios[35]
      Fatal Inertia -- (2007) Koei[36]
      Frontlines: Fuel of War -- (2008) Kaos Studios
      Fury -- (2007) Auran
      Gears of War -- (2006) Epic Games
      Global Agenda -- (TBA) Hi-Rez Studios
      Hour of Victory -- (2007) Midway Games
      Huxley -- (2007) Webzen Games
      The Last Remnant -- (2008) Square Enix
      Lineage III -- (TBA) NCsoft
      Lost Odyssey -- (2007) Mistwalker
      Mass Effect -- (2007) BioWare
      Medal of Honor: Airborne -- (2007) Electronic Arts
      Monster Madness: Battle for Suburbia -- (2007) Artificial Studios
      RoboBlitz -- (2006) Naked Sky Entertainment
      Rogue Warrior: Black Razor - (2007) Bethesda Softworks
      Stargate Worlds -- (2007) Cheyenne Mountain Entertainment
      Stranglehold -- (2007) Midway Chicago
      The Scourge Project -- (N/A) Tragnarion Studios
      To End All Wars -- (2008) Kuju Entertainment
      Tom Clancy's EndWar -- (2008) Ubisoft
      Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six: Vegas -- (2006) Ubisoft
      Too Human -- (2009) Silicon Knights
      Turning Point: Fall of Liberty -- (2007) Spark Unlimited
      Turok -- (2008) Propaganda Games
      Undertow -- (2007) Chair Entertainment
      Unreal Tournament 3 -- (2007) Epic Games
      Upcoming Mortal Kombat 8 Game -- (Unknown) Midway Games
      The Wheelman -- (2007) Midway Games
      HEI$T -- (2007) InXile Entertainment

  3. So am I the only one by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 4, Interesting

    That is a little suspicious that every time an Epic vs SK story comes up, there is some AC that comes along and posts about how "very, very strong" the case is against Epic, without providing actual evidence?

    I am really starting to wonder if perhaps an employee of SK isn't coming here and trying to push their side of the story. I just find it odd that while there are plenty of named posters who question what is happening, and none seem to be sure (since there seem to be next to no facts out there) there's always an AC with a fairly consistent writing style that comes in and says how fucked Epic is and how strong SK's claims are.

    One would wonder why they would be unwilling to put some kind of identification to claims like that.