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Torvalds on Linux and Microsoft

Sniper223 writes with a link to an interview on the Network World site with Linus Torvalds. Linus goes through the usual spiel about stuff like why he released the Linux OS in the first place, and how the future is open source. He also has some interesting commentary on the Microsoft/Novell deal: "I actually thought that whole discussion was interesting, not because of any Novell versus MS issues at all, but because all the people talking about them so clearly showed their own biases. The actual partnership itself seemed pretty much a nonissue to me, and not nearly as interesting as the reaction it got from people, and how it was reported ... I don't actually personally think the Novell-MS agreement kind of thing matters all that much in the end, but it's interesting to see the signs that the sides are at least talking to each other. I don't know what the end result will be, but I think it would be healthier for everybody if there wasn't the kind of rabid hatred on both sides. Some people get a bit too excited about MS, I think. I don't think they are that interesting." An interesting contrast to our earlier conversation.

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  1. Re:Discussion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    I can't prove anything but it seems quite apparent that Linus has taken a lot of money to keep Linux on GPL2.

    This is a plausible explanation for his behavior.

    But who was it? IBM?

  2. More whitewashing and fence-sitting by toby · · Score: 0, Troll

    ...which is just not helpful.

    Let's see them for what they are: Organised crime. One day justice will be done, Microsoft will be obliterated and the world will be a better place for it.

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    you had me at #!
  3. Re:Linus released the 'Linux' OS? by timmarhy · · Score: 0, Troll

    Is that you RMS? still pissed off some student stole your thunder?

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    If you mod me down, I will become more powerful than you can imagine....
  4. Re:Now, now... by DougReed · · Score: 0, Troll

    I would disagree. M$ is and always has been basically a criminal organization. They started out selling something that they did not have to IBM, then cheated someone else out of the pieces they needed to cover their lie, put illegal bits of code in their operating system to break their competition (Digital Research's DR-DOS, being the one they actually had to admit to and pay for). They stole the Windows concept from Apple, and ended up having to pay royalties after they were caught again. Their entire history has been one of corruption, bribes, extortion, and criminal behavior. Indeed much of the business world has become morally bankrupt by following M$'s lead and saying .. hey can do it.. How one can say that making decisions that were not "in sync" with the law is not criminal is simply a whitewash of the facts. Today, they are basically engineering criminal extortion out of every person on earth by maintaining an illegal monopoly and forcing people to pay their excessive ransom for an inferior product that could be had cheaper if proper competition was allowed to exist.

  5. Re:Linus has no foresight by Climate+Shill · · Score: -1, Troll

    In all honesty, I can't help but wonder if Linus would've been happier with the MIT license.

    Unfortunately, despite his claims to the contrary, he doesn't have a high enough AQ. You need an AQ of 160 to be a MIT-licenced developer.

    Theo de Raadt has an AQ of 285.

  6. Re:Discussion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    I never thought of this and my first reaction was that it must be true. Then I thought about it and thought for sure that is the only thing that makes sense. Then I thought a little more and figured that it was wrong. Just because Linus is a moral and social moron doesn't mean he is on the take. He may be, but based on many of his statements over the last decade or so, he is just an idiot. Aside from coding. Then he does an OK job. And aside from being supreme ruler of Linux, he seems to do a great job as far as patches and whatnot. Even though his recent statements about the scheduler show a crazy slant away from technical basis and more to friendships....

    But yeah, fuck just about everything Linus says. The quicker we can get a new kernel the better. We need this guy to fade away...

  7. By BUILDING A BETTER MOUSETRAP, MS = #1 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    "Microsoft is not the "necessary evil" of the computing industry. I fervently believe that the industry has been stifled in the long run because of what Microsoft has done in being predatory and killing off competition while being a monopoly." - by HermMunster (972336) on Saturday August 11, @11:59PM (#20200179)

    By them BUILDING A BETTER MOUSETRAP? That IS how they did it, after all... a more flexible, versatile, ubiquitous presence, with great OS products (especially since 2000/XP/Server 2003 & lately, VISTA, which is getting GOOD feedback on performance improvements in the next URL below, mind you):

    http://apcmag.com/6929/vista_sp1_in_depth

    "It used its power in a criminal way and has created a path down which we may never be able to recover. The hopes are that we can branch and have a 50-50 choice in software or even a 30-30-30. But being 90-10 is not the way to go for any industry." - by HermMunster (972336) on Saturday August 11, @11:59PM (#20200179)

    See my subject line/title of my reply here to you again, please... some criminal activity! The world's made a choice & that's to use the BEST OVERALL SOLUTION FOR HOME & BUSINESS - Windows!

    (95% of the world's PC's use it from the home up to the business LAN/WAN environs, for every conceivable purpose, after all!)

    AND, despite what "nerds/geeks" may think?

    People look around, & see different things, & make their choices & ARE NOT STUPID: They go with what just works, & with the most peripheral hardware & document formats (& again, that's Windows!)

    "Only through competition with lots of car companies have we been able to produce some exceptional cars that are praised world-wide. Having only one software company essentially stifles all that." -

    Man, the "hacker/cracker" types out there CREATE IMPROVEMENT in this field, for one thing, so they don't let MS "just sit there & not innovate", because in a BIG WAY, I feel they "force them to", & this works out in the long haul, excellently - with they acting as MS' biggest & best security researchers!

    PLUS, I have watched Windows become FAR MORE SECURE & STABLE than it ever was in the Win9x days & prior...

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    1.) Partially due to better development techniques in use now & better tools for it, ala:

    E.G. #1 - CODE AUDITING THE DEFCON WAY:

    http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=158231&cid= 13257227

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    2.) Partially because of security ideas & techniques becoming stronger, not only @ the perimeter defenses & server levels, but also @ the network client/single user PC level, ala:

    E.G. #2 - APK "12 step program" 4 a secure Windows NT-based OS (2000/XP/Server 2003/VISTA):

    http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?s=3e7 8ea52bc119fb94a59e51abf7c47a5&p=375355#post375355

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    3.) Lastly/IN BIG "Partially" because of Microsoft initiating their "feedback" on crashdump analysis as well, via remote communications back to their servers with that info. & issuing patches via "Windows Update" &/or corporate homepages for direct downloads for multiuser scenarios distribution by network admins/engineers/techs.

    "The good thing is that in the short and long term IP will eventually begin to stifle Microsoft because clearly their employees can only produce so much IP each year" - by HermMunster (972336) on Saturday August 11, @11:59PM (#20200179)

    Not with the "hacker/cracker/phisher" types out there... they FORCE change, due to holes they find... improvements in the product result. See the above where I stated this, for examples thereof...

    "The rest of the industry is producing a