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Why is Microsoft Patching XP?

akkarin noted a story about a new Service patch for XP. Dubbed SP2c, the new service patch contains no bug fixes or features. Instead, this exciting patch exists only to add new valid active product registration keys. Oops.

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  1. well... by silverkniveshotmail. · · Score: 5, Funny

    Without a service pack it just doesn't feel like windows.

    1. Re:well... by that+IT+girl · · Score: 5, Funny

      Haha, good point! I like this because it's kind of like they're admitting that nobody likes Vista and that they're still going to have people wanting XP, despite the fact that you can't find a new computer loaded with it anymore. People are willing to go out of their way to get XP versus Vista.

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    2. Re:well... by Vulva+R.+Thompson,+P · · Score: 5, Funny

      Each Tuesday morning everyone in our office kneels, faces west and screams "Blessed Be Ballmer!" repeatedly. We know He's listening because sometimes the angels reward us with a little icon in our trays.

      We tried it once with the Ubuntu god but it just felt blasphemous and unclean.

    3. Re:well... by antikristian · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The reason for it is easy:

      If they sent it out as a normal update, people could choose to ignore it. As a servicepack they can set it as a requirement for future security updates. This is just what they did with SP1 & 2, only this time without any added features for the user.

      Also: they really have to sell Vista...

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    4. Re:well... by pla · · Score: 4, Funny

      You mean every second Tuesday of each month? Fourth Tuesdays are OK too, but they're not critical updates.

      Know ye not any better than to question which Tuesdays work and which don't? Ballmer works in mysterious ways, after all. Why, on several occasions, updates have even appeared on non-Tuesdays! Surely He has blessed us only to reward our dilligence in praying to Redmond 4.25 times each month?

      In any case, you come very near blasphemy, Brother, in asking too many questions about Tuesdays - That sort of thinking can lead the mind in dangerous directions. Why, next you might start to question whether The G*tes (Blessed be his name, which we may not write upon anything impermanent) meant to pass the mantle of his fold on to his nephew or his brother-in-law. Such things only lead to tears and Danish mockery, my friend, so stray not onto that path!

    5. Re:well... by beckerist · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Why do you think the ribbon is horrible? Sure it takes some getting used to, but I've found the interface much more intuitive. Try telling your grandmother how to print in Landscape all the way up to Office XP... It required at least 3 levels of menu-digging and a half-dozen clicks. Now, it's 2 clicks and she's on her way to printing out cheap-ass birthday cards!

      I had a problem moving from using only a keyboard in Windows 3.1 to using a mouse in Windows 95, I thought it was too "clunky" and "bubbly" (pre-XP.) In the 10+ years since those 4 months of annoyance, nothing has really changed!

    6. Re:well... by MightyMartian · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'm dealing with a reasonably large staff which has grown incredibly accustomed to, over the course of a decade, the Office 97/2003-style interface. Whatever the "intuitiveness" of the ribbon, the fact remains that it would be a rather large effort on their part (and mine) to move in that direction. Even I, a guy who has been using computers in one form or another since the early 1980s, and considers myself fairly adaptable to new interfaces, found the ribbon and the general displacement of all the important functions I use in Office to be very hard to overcome.

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    7. Re:well... by AndersOSU · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Methinks theres a pattern here:

      Win95 - compelling reason to upgrade
      Win98 - pass
      Win2000 - compelling upgrade
      WinME - hahahaha
      WinXp - compelling upgrade
      WinVista - Jury's still out, but probably pass

    8. Re:well... by NaDrew · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Win98 - pass


      98se was such an improvement over 95, even over 95osr2, that it was definitely a "compelling upgrade". XP was not "compelling" for me until SP1.
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  2. NT4 called... by thatskinnyguy · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... and they're kinda nervous about their service release record being broken...

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  3. Re:the beginning of the end by CaptainPatent · · Score: 4, Insightful

    XP continues to be in demand Oh yeah, they'll be brought under very quick with all those sales they're making. Vista doesn't need to be quick to the gate for Microsoft to do well. What would hurt them is if the demand for XP dropped too.
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  4. missing a few by Phil246 · · Score: 4, Funny

    What happened to A and B?
    Did they elope together and disappear into the mountains - and now C is their lovechild?

  5. Uninstall by sjaguar · · Score: 5, Funny

    I wonder how hard it will be to uninstall when it does not work.

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  6. Re:More incredible by SCHecklerX · · Score: 4, Funny

    It's a good thing airplanes aren't designed that way. Solid steel and cement probably doesn't fly so good.

  7. Re:I'm so glad ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm glad I stayed with Windows 98 Second Edition so I don't have to deal with all these endless updates and patches.

  8. Re:So.... by improfane · · Score: 5, Insightful

    a large portion of the world uses XP and it is likely a lot of people on Slashdot have to administrate it.

    Why would it not be on the frontpage?

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  9. Re:you can patch in new keys? by sqrt(2) · · Score: 5, Funny

    The coolest MS activation hack I've seen is for vista. They emulate an OEM bios (usually asus) and install a key that allows the OS not to have to be activated via the internet (lest consumers have to deal with that after buying their new Vista machine). Works flawlessly, well from what I've heard it does. How would I know?

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  10. Re:So.... by rbanffy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's front page material because it allows us to have fun bashing Microsoft. ;-)

    This is Slashdot, after all.

  11. Re:So.... by Silver+Sloth · · Score: 5, Insightful
    The story here is not that the patch contains no fixes but that Microsoft are having to release a 'patch' because sales of Vista are not driving down sales of XP as much as was expected. From TFA

    Last month, the company's chief financial officer said that he tweaked the fiscal year 2008 forecast to account for XP's longevity. Rather than count on an 85/15 split in sales between Vista and XP, said Chris Liddell, Microsoft now expects a 78/22 split, an increase of nearly 50% in anticipated XP sales. Whether we like it or not Microsoft is the dominant player in the personal computer market and what they do and why they do it is important to us techies.
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  12. Re:This clearly shows... by gstoddart · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Over time, it would be my guess they will slowly "fade" out XP and the forced Vista adoption will be complete.

    Why would you need to guess about something which is already publicly known and their obvious policy?

    XP will eventually become unsupported, they won't have any new patches for it, and they'll expect everyone to upgrade to Vista. Oddly enough, Windows 3.x, 95, 98, and ME have all gone through this.

    Believe it or not, every software company does the exact same thing. Just than when Microsoft does it, it's on a massive scale, and it gets rammed down the throats of everyone no matter what they think.
    Longterm this will be seen as a major mistake made by them, in my opinion....
    Long term, none of our opinions seem to alter what Microsoft does. It just happens.

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  13. Re:More incredible by Dunbal · · Score: 4, Funny

    Every single f****n programmer knows by now that if you plan for a certain maximum limit, you multiply that number by a factor of 10,000, then raise it to the fourth power and add a few billion just to be sure.

          Which explains why a mouse driver needs to be 500MB.

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  14. Re:no rollup? by n0dna · · Score: 5, Informative

    SP3 is in late alpha, scheduled be released later this year with Vista's SP1.

  15. Let's see someone reverse engineer this by initialE · · Score: 5, Interesting

    There are 2 red flags on this that would concern me. One that Microsoft would secretly bundle more rights restrictions into XP (admit it, it's certainly tempting, and it's not like they haven't done it before), and two, that this SP would seemingly make it easier to crack windows keys - I mean, here's all the necessary components, isolated and laid out for you to decipher. Well, that's just my 2 cents.

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  16. Here's the rollup by Weaselmancer · · Score: 4, Informative

    Microsoft hasn't done it, but these guys have.

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  17. Vista's "suckiness" is not a claim; it's a fact =/ by Attaturk · · Score: 4, Insightful

    XP is fine now (when they're not breaking it remotely), Vista was delayed and Vista sucks. If Vista didn't suck then I wouldn't still be reading horror stories about DRM, HD-crippling, driver issues, kernel vulnerabilities etc. etc. etc. long after it has been released. Barely a week goes by without a handful of things like this or this cropping up.

    Are all of these kinds of stories just trolls with spin skills worthy of Karl Rove? If the answer is no then Vista sucks. If the answer is yes then there are lot of people angry at MS - probably, at least in part, because Vista sucks so very much: http://slashdot.org/search.pl?query=vista

    I've been part of several discussions trying to ascertain what advantages Vista actually offers to outweigh the drawbacks and it ain't pretty. The bottom line for us, and I daresay hundreds of thousands of other organisations, is that XP works, is mostly stable and is well supported. Vista can't compete with that - and they're calling it an upgrade?

    So if you need Microsoft - and unfortunately we still need to develop with DirectX - then XP will do fine. Vista has to bring something really worthwhile to make us want to go through the hassle of the upgrade and to put up with all the unwanted baggage that Redmond seems to think we all need.

    And of course if you don't need Microsoft then you're already laughing. Whatever OS you're using will be just as secure as Vista (if not more so), fully extensible, support all sorts of open formats and not try to wrestle with you for control of your own computer.

    I really am glad that Vista's working out for you but unfortunately for most of us the "nifty new features and new look" just aren't enough to justify a broad OS upgrade - certainly for anything other than a home or hobby rig. And my home'n'hobby rigs all run XP or Linux and serve me just fine. =D

  18. Re:So.... by geobeck · · Score: 4, Funny

    Why would it not be on the frontpage?

    Because it's along the lines of "Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead. Doctors report his condition as 'unchanged'."

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  19. Blasphemer! by nlinecomputers · · Score: 4, Funny

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    And you dare to imply that Slashdot isn't permanent? Never have I witnessed a more true blasphemy.

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