Contractor Folds After Causing Breaches
talkinsecurity writes "A single contractor, privately-held Verus Inc., has been traced as the source of no less than five hospital security breaches in the past two months — and those breaches have put the company out of business in a matter of weeks. Verus, which managed the websites of as many as 60 of the country's largest hospitals, has folded its entire business within the past few weeks, without a word to anyone. Apparently, a single IT error led to the exposure of at least five hospitals' patient data — at least 100,000 individuals' personal information — and caused Verus' primary investor to pull the plug. The hospitals, which initially reported their breaches separately, were left with no one to sue."
The hospitals, which initially reported their breaches separately, were left with no one to sue."
I'd start with the ex-CEO. The 'company' did not make decisions, people did. They should be held accountable.
You can outsource work but you can't outsource responsibility.
And if you think the supplier will always be around to sue later, and suing them is your only plan, you're a fool.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled"
Lots of people on slashdot extoll the virtues of un-fettered capitalism. "No need for government regulation, sue those who breach their contract!". Unfortunately, when the company folds protecting the stakeholders there is nobody left to sue! Oooops! There goes that darn accountability!
Blar.
Ah, so the board of directors should be sued for all of their personal assets in order to pay for Joe Coder's mistake in leaving a backdoor opens. How many people do you think would start up businesses if they knew mistakes made by any employee could bankrupt them?
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HIPPA laws are no joke. There are serious fines and even criminal penalties for letting confidential patient records out. It's so serious that companies working with health care data often have special training programs for their employees that handle any sort of hospital data -- even for IT workers.
Verus probably folded to keep from getting heavily penalized and/or to prevent its directors from being criminally prosecuted under HIPPA.
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"The hospitals, which initially reported their breaches separately, were left with no one to sue."
In this day and age, all I can say is BOO HOO.
I hate printers.
Engineers are legally responsible for all of the design decisions that go into their work. I see no reason now to hold corporate shills - erm, CEOs and other board members - to the same standard.
To make laws that man cannot, and will not obey, serves to bring all law into contempt.
--E.C. Stanton
B) PEBKAC (didn't know how to do the above, or at least do it properly)
C) ID Ten T (knew how to do it, but didn't think it was a "big deal")
D) Some combination of A, B and C
"Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much." - Oscar Wilde
I think corporate death like this is a good thing if it results in the rest of the industry internalizing the consequences of poor practices. But if the problems remain, than the mere dissolution of the corporation is not sufficient.
When information is power, privacy is freedom.
Enron folded after some financial misdeeds. The investors still had someone to sue. There is always someone to sue.
The game.
Of course the knee jerk reaction is to make corporations more accountable, raise the risks for the owners, etc. As others have pointed out, no one would want to run a corporation where they are liable not just for doing their job, but being sure that no mistakes were made by anyone else (like the IT worker turning off a firewall, or the janitor that doesn't put down a wet floor sign). Take the current executive pay and bump it up by a factor of 10. Honestly, all the barriers, rules, legal risk, etc are part of the reason big companies have gotten so big.
Also, lets not forget that if the executives really did something wrong, closing the business isn't enough. There's still a legal record of who owned the business when the breach occurred. What the hospitals are upset about is that the investors stopped putting money into the company which they could try to get their hands on. The investors already lost because the company folded, they never saw a return on their money, and probably lost their principle, too. As did the shareholders (stock=0), employees (no unemployed, a few of them rightfully so), executives (with a black mark on their record for something they didn't do), etc. Anyone who walks away from a folded company as a winner either did nothing wrong, scammed the system, or was really good and didn't get caught. None of which appears to have happened here.
If you want to be anti-big business, you need to cut down the barriers so that "locally owned" has a fighting chance against the "benefits of scalability".
How many thousands of people lost their life savings when Enron folded? (Days before the end, the CEOs and other higher ups were selling their stock like it was on fire, while other investors - mostly employees of the state of California - were locked-out and unable to sell their holdings). What about MCI/Worldcom? What about ValueJet, which had dozens of safety violations prior to the crash of Flight 592 and for which the company was later indicted on 100+ counts of murder? What about Power Fasteners, which did such a shoddy job of constructing the Big Dig that the roof collapsed and killed someone (they were also indicted). What about ExonMobile, which (as a result of its operations 1888-present) is responsible for something like 5-8% of all global warming and will almost certainly face future lawsuits about it? Corporations can and willingly cause massive destruction on a global scale. They destroy lives, but they are ultimately a legal fiction created for the purpose of shielding the true decision makers from the legal liability of their decisions.
To make laws that man cannot, and will not obey, serves to bring all law into contempt.
--E.C. Stanton
Looking at the clues here: File transfer + Firewall + needed to drop firewall... I'd say it was probably someone who couldn't figure out passive ftp. Needless to say they were transferring the data without encryption in the first place.
Is it just my observation, or are there way too many stupid people in the world?
The hospitals, which initially reported their breaches separately, were left with no one to sue.
A US-ian's worst nightmare, no one to sue. Do you really exist if you've no one to sue?
There are still partnerships, the only thing we'd need to do away with is the whole limited liability thing.
- None can love freedom heartily, but good men; the rest love not freedom, but license. -- John Milton
CEOs and their cohorts make very good money to direct and lead their companies, but they are not personally responsible for the results of their leadership and direction.
Boards of Directors are supposed to be outside overseers who make sure those INSIDE the company are not blinded by internal goals and policies or politics; they are PAID to provide an outside view and unbiased viewpoint.
My point is that there is already several layers of 'leadership' that are supposed to be providing adhearance to standards, rules, and laws, and that those layers are WELL paid for that function. I don't see a hugh additional burden in making them legally responsible for performing (or not performing) their function.
Hold them responsible for Joe Coder's mistake? No, but the company should be responsible for ensuring that Joe Coder can not - through stupidity, incompetence, or accident - do something like the article and destroy the company/corporation. If safeguards are not in place, then SOMEONE should be responsible for the screwup, and the BoD and CEO, COO, CIO, etc SHOULD BE held responsible for not having safeguards in place.
"We hired the best coder minimum wage could buy and turned them loose without any oversight" is not sufficient to absolve them of responsibility, at least in my mind.
Acts of massive stupidity are almost never covered by warranty. --me.
Tom Lawry, the CEO of Verus, is someone I've known for over ten years. He used to work for our healthcare organization and was one of the first people to "get it" over the Internet. He pushed for the formation of our web services team and sold the organization on making an Intranet when the whole thing was seen as a big fad.
Afterwards he went on to form his own company, but still hung around as a consultant. He wasn't particularly technical, but was very good at navigating through the political issues that often come up with organizational change. For example, switching from paper to online job applications was fairly exciting, if only getting our various regions to agree on a single form.
In later years, we had our disagreements with Tom. I wasn't too happy on how he assisted with our Internet site (his organization was starting to get into the web design business). As a person, he was always kind and thoughtful, despite his various business endeavors. He'd talk about his kid, how expensive going out to a movie in Seattle was getting, or tell stories about the Sisters from his time working at our organization (we're a Catholic healthcare organization).
We were actually just starting to sign up to use his latest product (a clinic billing system). He was partnering with our medical record system vendor and it seemed reasonably good. Fortunately we didn't have any security breaches related to this incident, but it seems to have been blind luck to some degree.
I think it's impossible for any CEO, even if they have a technical background, to be aware of every technical issue within their organization. In any complex endeavor, there's just too much going on. At this point, it seems like Tom has suffered quite a bit already. He's lost the business he's spent a decade growing. Prosecutors are looking into criminal charges. I don't know how he'll recover professionally. I'm sure he'll spend the rest of his life second-guessing what he should have done better. Hired different people? Brought in an outside auditor?
For me, it was a reminder that everything can just disappear in a flash. Cherish what you've got.
While HIPPA and all the other regs apply to the US, the medical industry and insurance companies outsource tons of data services to cheap off-shore companies that don't adhere to the regs.
With a couple of dollars and a few phone calls you can get mountains of patient data from overseas.
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Let me clue you in how this works in many corporations.
The lot that makes up the top level management is usually small. You know each other. You see each other on various occasions. Doesn't it strike you as odd that every time some manager needs to "take a break" because his blunders were too obvious that miraculously someone from abroad comes in to take over? Guess what he did there. He needed a break.
The group is small and very selective who it allows into its ranks. You don't just get a ton of degrees from various business schools and then suddenly get an invitation to a talk whether you should be the next CEO of Siemens or Bosch.
This group, now, forms the whole lot. The CEO, the board, the whole levels and circles meant to control each other. And if you behave, next time you may be the CEO.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
No-one to sue? Oh my gosh, it's the end of the world! How can there possibly be no-one to sue? No business or individual is complete if they don't have someone to sue. Oh, the humanity!
Reality check : Most programmers are under commercial pressures from managers and customers.
Reality check: Most engineers are under commercial pressures from managers and customers. That doesn't mean that if my boss wants me to use paper clips instead of my recommendation of high-tensile steel bolts, I'm on firm ethnical ground saying "Okay, paper clips it is." I have a professional, ethical responsibility to not build shoddy product. Don't programmers?
Turning off the firewall is not as uncommon as you might think, especially at smaller companies where the inexperienced network administrator (the company didn't want to shell out for a decent admin) is under pressure from above to just "make it work" or "turn off the firewall so that our sales drone can demo the product to a client". The managers attempt to override objections from the engineers with promises that, "it is only for 15 minutes" or other false assurances, as if the engineers are only issuing warnings because they like to put the manager in a pickle in front of the client. The proper response from the engineer in these cases is to get the request in writing from the low level manager that is asking for it...you would be surprised how quickly they back off when they are forced to authorize a request in writing to "turn off the firewall".