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PC Magazine Editor Throws in the Towel on Vista
MacNN caught this incredible defection and loss of faith by a former Vista booster, PC Magazine editor-in-chief Jim Louderback, as he steps down from his position. "I've been a big proponent of the new OS over the past few months, even going so far as loading it onto most of my computers and spending hours tweaking and optimizing it. So why, nine months after launch, am I so frustrated? The litany of what doesn't work and what still frustrates me stretches on endlessly. The upshot is that even after nine months, Vista just ain't cutting it. I definitely gave Microsoft too much of a free pass on this operating system: I expected it to get the kinks worked out more quickly. Boy, was I fooled! If Microsoft can't get Vista working, I might just do the unthinkable: I might move to Linux."
Someone who describes that as the unthinkable can only be a a MS zealot, a troll, or a plain idiot.
Wow, sheesh, Vista sucks so badly that I might consider using another OS that's already installed on millions of servers and desktops around the world. I must be so desperate!
About the rest of the article, it's just a rant on Vista's inability to properly manage sleep modes, and some networking problems, with a couple of unfunny jokes here and there. Apparently this guy can't get all his computers to behave as expected (as if anyone should be surprised at this stage that two computers running the same version of Windows can run into trouble trying to talk to each other). You'd better be spending your time reading something else...
My 0.02 cents
lol. you are teh uber-troll.
mad propz!!1!
If Vista is as bad as Louderback says it is, gnu/linux is the only upgrade option that will work.
yeah, because xp doesn't work or anything. get a life troll.
Do it now!
"If Microsoft can't get Vista working, I might just do the unthinkable: I might move to Linux."
.rpm or .deb you'll have to compile from source.
Good luck getting that wireless card to work out of the box.
Good luck getting video to look as crystal clear as in Windows.
Want that RAID controller to work gotta recompile the kernel.
Have fun.....
Need x software.... oh crap there is no
I'll just Next --> Next --> Finished
ROFL
Have fun playing Xbill when it comes to games.
He did say Upgrade Option - likely refering to people already using XP. Get a life, reactionary troll
Ahh, the cries of a zealot. Got to love the mature nomenclature "windoze" and "M$". Then people like you wonder why Windows users feel hostility and are very hesitant to want to even try Linux. As bad as Windows is, it works. Linux, yes even your great Ubunutu, still has a long ways to go. Even if you want mom and pop to switch over they are still going to have to deal with compatibility issues with documents and media formats. Ubunutu and distros like go a long way towards usability, but they aren't good enough for mass acceptance by a Windows user base. I mean when everything goes right with Linux it's great, but when things go wrong it's a nightmare for casual users. When I was playing around with Ubunutu last year I checked out a few sites and messageboards and found that even though there was helpful information out there it was often way too technical for people like my parents or neighbors. I also noticed that there is still an air of arrogance and hostility amongst some Linux supporters towards people that are inexperienced with Linux and/or are coming from a Windows background. As someone mentioned to me, just because you can make things work in Linux doesn't mean it's usable by most PC owners out there. In a few years, like it or not, there will still be more Vista users than Linux out there because of the Windows legacy and the large commercial support base.
Who the fuck says that? He's obviously homosexual and can't be trusted. Stupid fucking PC magazine power users know just enough to be dangerous.
"The first wisdom acquired when digging a hole is knowing when to stop digging; the first task you're faced with is deciding when it's deep enough."
Which is the exact wisdom I used to determine that Linux is unthinkable as a normal day to day desktop environment.
And will probably remain so for some years to go.
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Then people like you wonder why Windows users feel hostility and are very hesitant to want to even try Linux.
That is so precious! Do you cry when people say nasty things to you? Say what you want about zealots, but at least they don't base their computing decisions on whether or not the bad man was being mean to them.
I also noticed that there is still an air of arrogance and hostility amongst some Linux supporters towards people that are inexperienced with Linux
Golly gosh, really? Wow, how interesting that's only confined to Linux messageboards! Hope it doesn't spread!
Jackass.
Linux, you magnificent bastard, I read the fucking manual!
I know what you mean. I've been looking for a Windows alternative for some time now, but I detest the whole Mac way of doing things, so that's not an option. When I've tried linux, my primary complaint boils down to "What do you mean I can't do [long list of stuff] in linux, or can't do it without jumping through various hoops, even tho these things are so easy to do in Windows??!"
So, yes, after a long history with Windows (and DOS), linux does feel "cramped" -- that's a very good description (kinda like going from driving an SUV to driving a Yugo). I wish this were not the case, I wish that linux would make me feel =more= free to do what I want with my computer, but sad to say this has not been the case.
I think a lot of it is that even to a very savvy DOS/Windows user, linux puts you back at square one, where you don't know anything at all, even tho it LOOKS familiar enough. This may be a lot of why linux is MORE frustrating to experienced DOS/Win users than to newbies, who don't yet have any firm expectations about their desktop OS.
~REZ~ #43301. Who'd fake being me anyway?
Thanks for making my point.
Ha! Read my journal, you'll see I'm no Linux zealot, I'm just somebody who's come to the end of the road with Windows.
Sometimes I think that a lot of the hostility here is just posturing against the "norm". You know, like college students that go around telling everyone how hip they are because they don't watch TV or listen to "commercial" music.
Jesus, but you get some woolly ideas in your head.
I am not saying Linux is bad, it's just not ready for primetime. Any time a user needs to compile or mess with a text file you've moved out of the mainstream and the average Joe isn't going to want to do anything like that.
The fuck you were. You were tarring the Linux community based on goddamn hearsay because it's a well-worn argument, you made no technical points. Why are all MS defenders such paranoiacs? Wait, they're not, it's just another gross generalization like you made. Weak sauce, buddy.
Other people in this topic have said as much as well.
What, you want a medal for being a lemming? Piss off, troll.
Linux, you magnificent bastard, I read the fucking manual!
I'm sure it works great. Until a few years ago, I actually had it running on a frickin' 90 MHz Pentium with a mere 96 MB of memory. If you disable a few services, it cooks right along as well as any old OS did for the day, and all that box did was serve up a few hundred GB of MP3s on the household network, so why touch it?
:)
But in this day and age, with what is presently available, saying it's a viable desktop OS is pushing the boundaries of credibility. It's like going to forum for car guys and saying a '62 VW is a reasonable choice as a daily commuter. Sure it WORKS, but realistically there are better options. It's a generalization that just doesn't make much sense.
I called him an OSX troll because of his opening statements, not just because he uses OSX, and not even because he stated an opinion which differs from mine. I've run several flavors of Linux, at times for as long as a year or two, but when I need to get shit done, I just come back to Windows.
Since I've spent most of my life as a programmer and I prefer to build my own machines, I haven't had any interest in the expense, lock-in of the Apple world. I've used 'em, even recently, and I just wasn't that impressed. I suppose that's not especially relevant, but since we're signing off with resumes...
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Why is linux unthinkable? I have a smartphone, sound card, and multi-card memory reader that I wouldn't be able to use at all if I switched back to linux. I suspect that there are many people who face the same predicament that I do. When I am at home I don't want to go searching for and applying patches to get my hardware to work properly. My karma is going to go down the toilet for saying this on Slashdot but Linux won't be ready for the masses until hardware vendors feel an obligation to write, maintain, and support linux drivers. And please spare me the "buy supported hardware" nonsense. The average person has already made an initial investment in hardware why should they be forced to purchase new hardware just to run an OS when they should be purchasing an OS to run their hardware.
My home media server runs on gentoo (Yes it finally finished compiling), all of my work and personal files are on an ubuntu file server along with images of my base windows install for when windows craps out on me. Despite all of this I run windows xp for my day to day tasks at home because all of my existing hardware already works on windows. When I can just plugin my smartphone and have it sync with kmail/evolution/thunderbird/pine/whatever and not have to decipher some poorly written manual that MAY OR MAY NOT work after an hour of editing config files that MIGHT be in the correct directories depending on how Distro X has their packages configured (wth happened to LSB??).
I agree wholeheartedly VISTA is a total disaster but linux isn't the great savior for desktop users, not yet.
I think the invisible hand of the market has its middle finger extended
--A wise old fart named SC0RN
Plus, I keep hearing about people using something called "Ubuntu". That sounds like something only a nigger would use.
The problem is that Microsoft Windows doesn't work like a real O/S. Real O/S's never crash. Not several times a week like Microsoft Windows XP, never. I haven't seen instability like Microsoft Windows XP ever.
My AT&T Unix PC never crashed. Apple OS X doesn't crash. Linux doesn't crash (since the 1.3 days). Solaris doesn't crash. My DEC Alpha running Turbolinux 7 never crashed (but that's bragging, I did the Turbolinux 7 port to DEC Alpha).
If you take that as hostility, fine, whatever. My computers don't crash (now that my work notebook has been upgraded to RHEL from Microsoft Windows XP).
Linux is free-as-in-beer. Vista costs a whole buttload of money.
So why do companies (who have a profit-driven bottom-line) choose MS products over free ones?
Answer: Linux == OMG PONEIZZZ!!! (In other words, Linux coders are fucking amateur hacker bitches!)
Mod me troll, but you know I'm right.
why do companies (who have a profit-driven bottom-line) choose MS products over free ones?
Legacy and that little thing called a Federal Court Proved Coercive Monopoly.
Despite these things, more businesses are choosing free software. IBM, Google, Chrysler, Lowes, and others have all begun a radical shift away from M$ and have saved themselves all sorts of money and heartache.
Friends don't help friends install M$ junk.
I understand the frustration with Vista, but come on, switch to Linux?! I've used all three versions of Linux, and I'll never use it again for two primary reasons: 1) Doesn't run Internet Explorer, and ) Not enough wizards to get stuff set up.
Don't even get me started on the lack of a Linux version of Weather Bug.
Evil is the money of root.