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MTV Bails on Microsoft's URGE Store

Marlowe writes "MTV's once-ballyhooed partnership with Microsoft appears to be all but dead. MTV is teaming up with RealNetworks to form Rhapsody America, with Verizon handling wireless distribution. It's a big blow to Microsoft, too. 'With the creation of Rhapsody America, the writing is on the wall for MTV and Microsoft's Urge music store partnership. Although the Microsoft-MTV marriage was announced with great fanfare, it was likely headed for divorce court right from the start due to Microsoft's plans to turn PlaysForSure into a second-class citizen with the launch of the Zune — and its self-contained music ecosystem.' When asked about the future of Urge, MTV Music Group President Toffler was terse. 'We are in discussions with Microsoft now and will be on Windows Media Player 11 until further notice,' he said. While the Urge brand will ultimately disappear, Toffler said that 'a lot' of Urge's elements will live on in Rhapsody America."

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  1. Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why would any company want to partner with Microsoft? They seem to drop commitments at a whim (PlaysForSure) and do not seem to ever has their partners interest anywhere in their list of priorities.

    Are there any examples of Microsoft ever participating in a mutually beneficial relationship with another company?

    1. Re:Why? by MightyMartian · · Score: 5, Funny

      Are there any examples of Microsoft ever participating in a mutually beneficial relationship with another company?
      That's like asking if anyone has ever entered a mutually beneficial relationship with Count Dracula.
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    2. Re:Why? by pandrijeczko · · Score: 5, Funny
      That's like asking if anyone has ever entered a mutually beneficial relationship with Count Dracula.

      I resent that comparison!

      Count Dracula *STOPS* sucking blood when he has had his fill!

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    3. Re:Why? by mcmaddog · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Ironically enough, the one instance I can think of is Apple.

      MS's $500 million investment probably saved the company from bankruptcy. This was at the low point of Apple's market share, reputation and stock price. MS propped them up because they knew Apple customers were potential MS customers too, even if they didn't use their OS.


      $500 million? Saved Apple from bankruptcy? Microsoft invested $150 million in non voting shares and Apple had over $6 billion in cash in the bank at the time. They were nowhere near going bankrupt. Also Apple customers aren't "potential" MS customers, MS is the largest supplier of Mac software after Apple. What saved Apple was the return of Steve Jobs and his focusing the company on profitable products like the rollout of the iMac.

      Also, except for Office 6 when MS tried to use the same code base for Mac and Windows versions, the Mac version, starting with it's debut for Mac before any PC version existed, has often been thought of as better. Partly due to MS' use of the smaller Mac market to test new features that if well received become part of the Windows version, but also due greatly to the developers in the Mac Business Unit at Microsoft which are true Mac users.
  2. What makes MTV think.... by 8127972 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ....That it can seriously compete with the Apple iTunes store regardless of who they are partnered with? The iTunes ecosystem has too much of a head start to be caught in the short term IMHO.

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  3. No tears shed here by Arathon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This may be somewhat off-topic, but I can't mourn this passing. "URGE" always seemed to me to be one of the ugliest, dumbest-sounding names of all the music download services available. And its front-row presence in WMP11 has always annoyed me to no end.

    Plus, who really cares about these services anymore, now that WalMart is offering EMI and Universal MP3s without DRM for cheaper than iTunes, at 256 kbps....

  4. Because someone will ask.. by BlackCobra43 · · Score: 4, Informative

    ballyhoo (bl'-h')

    n., pl. -hoos.
    Sensational or clamorous advertising or publicity.
    Noisy shouting or uproar.
    tr.v., -hooed, -hooing, -hoos.
    To advertise or publicize by sensational methods.

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  5. Yet another victim... by xednieht · · Score: 4, Informative

    Perhaps it's time for Microsoft to bail on Ballmer.

    The whole Urge thing lacked the strategic finesse and vision Microsoft would otherwise be capable of.

    There's only one strategic foundation that can challenge Apple+iTunes and Urge was not it, and the Rhapsody-MTV-Verizon approach is not it either.

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  6. Convergence of 3 Irrelevant Dinosaurs by Ritz_Just_Ritz · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Let's see....

    Real managed to totally blow an overwhelming lead in streaming media as Realplayer was allowed to die on the vine. Add MTV to the mix. They were relevant to the music scene about 20 years ago. Now it's just reality TV plus advertising. And Verizon...a CDMA network with the highest prices in the country and a track record of disabling phone features that cut into their "buy it from us or not at all" corporate culture. Yeah, that ought to be a real powerhouse for peeing away a few hundred million of investment capital.

    *yawn*

  7. Because they are businessmen by WindBourne · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Everybody thinks that they will come out ahead by dealing with MS. But MS's game is NOT tech, but marketing and legalize. The absolute best that you can expect is to come out even. Until business ppl realize that you will be screwed by dealing with them, they will continue to take this path. The interesting point on all this, is that if you pay attention, you will find that only a few ex-MS execs. will deal with MS until they are monster size themselves. While they are little or medium size, they avoid contact with MS. Shows that some of the MS execs are not idtios.

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  8. Re:...all but dead... by RoverDaddy · · Score: 4, Informative

    'all but xxx' is an American (or perhaps more generally English) idiom that means 'about as close to xxx as you can get without actually being there yet.'.
    On the the other hand, the phrase 'anything but xxx' means the speaker doesn't think the thing is anywhere near 'xxx' even if other people do.
    Hope this helps.

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  9. Re:This is not a troll! by jahudabudy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    My sister-in-law just graduated high school. She was a cheer leader, got poor grades, and seemed to be constantly bitching about one or another of the girls in her grade. So I assume she is pretty much the target audience for "teen fashion" crap. She LOVES those MTV "reality" drama shows. I seldom ever talk to her much beyond "Hi" and "Pass the salt", but I do overhear her conversations with my wife. It actually took me some time to be able to distinguish between her stories of petty drama that involved her and her peers and the stupid stories of petty drama that she was regurgitating from these shows. It still takes me some time to catch on that this story is real after she changes boyfriends; I tend to assume the new name is a new show, or new character (which also happens a lot, from what I gather).

    So, to answer your question, I have no idea. But from what I can tell, MTV counts for at least as much in my sister-in-law's life as her actual life. Seriously. I've seen her crying over breaking up with her boyfriend, and she was less sad than the time she was crying over what turned out to be a break-up in a show.

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  10. Re:gg no re by PopeRatzo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Apple already won this game.
    Um, I think the millions of users of The Pirate Bay might disagree.

    Sometimes, the game goes not to the strongest or the swiftest, but to the one that's free.
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