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New Idea Could Lead to Quantum RAM

KentuckyFC writes to tell us that scientists in Italy and the US have designed a new method of retrieving information from quantum memory that could allow them to create "Quantum RAM". "Giovannetti's idea is to send the address down the branching tree of connections in such a way that it only affects one switch at a time. The first address qubit sets a switch at the first branching point to go one way or the other; the second qubit is sent that way and sets the switch at the next branching point, and so on. The total number of entangled quantum systems is smaller, and they are not so susceptible to interference, allowing information to be retrieved from memory intact."

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  1. talk about density by downix · · Score: 4, Interesting

    atomic-scale memory would create huge waves.

    It also could help out on the heat issues as well.

    I mean, think about how many atoms are in a normal piece of memory.... yeouch that's a lot of RAM!

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    1. Re:talk about density by utopianfiat · · Score: 3, Funny
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    2. Re:talk about density by somersault · · Score: 3, Funny

      Must have been Schrödinger's desktop

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    3. Re:talk about density by unfunk · · Score: 5, Funny

      atomic-scale memory would create huge waves.
      Yes, but they'd collapse into particles as soon as you look at 'em...
  2. binary trees by ch0ad · · Score: 2, Interesting

    could this be used to implement extremely efficient binary trees? the structure sounds ideal to be but im hardly an expert.

    1. Re:binary trees by Reverend528 · · Score: 5, Funny

      could this be used to implement extremely efficient binary trees?
      Yes and no.
    2. Re:binary trees by Amouth · · Score: 4, Funny

      i wish i had mod points.. although i don't know what i should put.. cause you can onlymod once..

      would it be up or down?????

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    3. Re:binary trees by ozamosi · · Score: 2, Funny

      i wish i had mod points.. although i don't know what i should put.. cause you can onlymod once..

      would it be up or down????? Yes
    4. Re:binary trees by Asztal_ · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'd probably go for (+5, Strange).

    5. Re:binary trees by nschubach · · Score: 2, Funny

      Wouldn't it be Yes, No and Both?

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    6. Re:binary trees by ichigo+2.0 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Very charming.

  3. Quantum porn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    [Guy 1] Hey, I had porn loaded into memory

    [Guy 2] You changed it by looking at it!

    1. Re:Quantum porn by clickclickdrone · · Score: 2, Funny

      Wonder if that would stand up in court for any pedos?
      Defendent:Your Honour, I know it's someone under-age *now* but it was grannie-pr0n when I downloaded it, really it was.

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  4. I don't see it on NewEgg by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    How else will be I be able to add it to my gaming rig. Do you think this memory has lights on it? I hope so, and that'd look great through my case's side-windows.

  5. is this a new idea? by nategoose · · Score: 2, Informative

    Nothing in this really sounds like a new idea except that using this method would have some benefit on the quantum level. It's just a balanced binary decision tree implemented as a (quantum, in this case) circuit such that leaf nodes are stored data and addresses are qbit streams. Am I missing something?

  6. Re:Quantum Leap RAM by krgallagher · · Score: 2, Funny
    "Quantum Leap RAM"

    Does that mean my data can travel back and forth through time, but only within my own lifetime?

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  7. In other news... by Angst+Badger · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...3D Realms has announced that Duke Nukem Forever will require installation of quantum RAM.

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  8. Re:Is any useful form of this crap physically real by Hoi+Polloi · · Score: 3, Funny

    Quantum computers are a real possibility. They just cease to exist if you try to observe them.

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  9. Re:Is any useful form of this crap physically real by UbuntuDupe · · Score: 2, Informative

    What? Yes, they exist, so far not with much memory though. One was used in '04 to implement Shor's Algorithm to factor the integer 15 (or 2^4-1). I know, baby steps, but sometimes I forget the factors of 15 :-/

  10. Re:Quantum address? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    A quantum register can be in a superposition of multiple states. For every possible state, there is a corresponding number called a probability amplitude. The square of the absolute value of the probability amplitude is equal to the probability that when observed, that state is the one you see, so naturally, the squares of the absolute values have to add up to 1. A quantum gate maps a single state onto a superposition of states.

    Maybe an example will make this clearer. A quantum state is often written as a ket: |0> and |1>, for example. The Hadamard gate maps states like this:

    |0> to (|0> + |1>)/sqrt(2)
    |1> to (|0> - |1>)/sqrt(2)

    If you feed |0> to a Hadamard gate, then the result will be a superposition of 0 and 1. 0's probability amplitude will be 1/sqrt(2), as will 1's. Feeding |1> into it will give you the same thing, except now 1's probability amplitude is -1/sqrt(2). (A probability amplitude can be a complex number.)

    So suppose, now, that we feed (-|0> + |1>)/sqrt(2) (that is, 0 with amplitude -1/sqrt(2) and 1 with amplitude 1/sqrt(2)) into the Hadamard gate. You can just substitute the result in for the kets, like this:

    (-|0> + |1>)/sqrt(2)
    (-(|0> + |1>)/sqrt(2) + (|0> - |1>)/sqrt(2))/sqrt(2)
    (-(|0> + |1>) + (|0> - |1>))/2
    (-|0> - |1> + |0> - |1>)/2
    (-2|1>)/2
    -|1>

    The result will be 1 with a probability amplitude of -1, corresponding to a probability of 1.

    So in practice, each qubit will probably be a single particle or something. With 8 qubits, you have 2^8 probability amplitudes that a classical computer would have to keep track of separately. Unfortunately, you can't go around doing just anything you want to these probability amplitudes, like manipulating them one by one, but manipulating them in certain ways can land you with a nice, fast algorithm, like Shor's algorithm, which can factor integers (which is useful for breaking certain types of codes) faster than any known classical algorithm. How does it work? I have no idea :-)

  11. Quntum bits and linking, fun consequences... by BlueParrot · · Score: 2, Informative

    A theorem of quantum mechanics is that you can't perfectly copy a quantum state as that would allow you to measure the energy of one copy and the time of the other, thus violating the uncertainty principle. In practise what happens is that the two systems become entangled so that a measurement on one of them will instantly disrupt the state of the other. Thus your quantum UNIX would have the 'ln' command but not 'cp' ( 'cp -l' is ok ). Even more amusing is that this mandates that the disruption is non-deterministic. If it wasn't you could use it to transmit information and energy quicker than the speed of light, which is prohibited by relativity. So, if you thought lawmakers had trouble understanding how computers work, just wait until they get to deal with the question of who is liable for causing the de-coherence of a quantum system ( hint: you can't prove it unless you caused it ). Bring on the lawyers :P

    1. Re:Quntum bits and linking, fun consequences... by kebes · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Thus your quantum UNIX would have the 'ln' command but not 'cp' ( 'cp -l' is ok ).
      That's a cool way of thinking about it. However I think in a real implementation of a quantum computer, the system would be a mostly classical device (including CPU, RAM, hard drive), with a quantum chip as a co-processor that is used for certain computations only. The existence of the chip, and the quantum implications thereof, would probably be hidden from the user/programmer. So for instance the compiler would take care of using the quantum chip for computations where it makes sense, but using the classical CPU otherwise.

      For many things the quantum chip would be advantageous, but ultimately for many other things (especially data storage), a conventional classical computer is better (or at least cheaper). Of course, it's possible I'm not being sufficiently imaginative, and that there will be situations where keeping data indefinitely in quantum RAM will be advantageous... My main point is that adding quantum functionality to our computers doesn't mean giving up on the advantages of classical computing (e.g. simplicity, easy persistent storage). Hybrid computers provide the advantages of both realms.
  12. Oh that's just GREAT!!!... by StressGuy · · Score: 4, Funny

    now, everytime you try to measure the release date, it will change!

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  13. Re:YAUQA: Yet another uninformed Quantum Article by kebes · · Score: 4, Interesting

    a quantum gate or quantum computer is only capable of probabilistic answers
    I don't think that's true. Yes, many quantum processes are fundamentally probabilistic, but that just means we need to avoid those processes when building quantum computers. The intended design for a quantum computer is to use unitary (invertible, deterministic, etc.) operations for the quantum gates.

    The main roadblock to keeping the gates unitary (i.e. keep the error rate low) is to have the switching occur faster than the decoherence time (the timescale over which the delicate superposition decoheres into a random probabilistic mixture). This is certainly a difficult issue to solve, but in principle it is possible. The small-scale quantum computers that have been built to date were able to solve small problems deterministically.

    As a practical point, it may turn out to be very difficult to build a quantum computer... but as far as I know the intended designs of quantum computers are not to yield probabilistic answers and then to average them, but to maintain coherence long enough that the final answer is deterministic, with an acceptably small error rate.
  14. Re:Quantum address? by Zenaku · · Score: 2, Funny

    It's all so obvious now!

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  15. Re:ECC? by JetScootr · · Score: 2, Funny

    Even checking "Read Only" would irreversibly damage the contents

    Maybe this research is funded by Microsoft.

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  16. Re:Talk about it if you must, but DO something by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Were you a g*ddammned hall monitor or something in a past life?

    What are you talking about? I replied to a non-sequitur about doing "something".

    I did "soemthing".

    I posted.

    About a funny idea that occurred from mis-reading the post. Quantum DRM is a possible misapplication of the crypto possibilities in quantum computing. But the existence of quantum RAM suggests that the problem might be moved into an area that was not previously accounted for in the speculation.

    I was appealing for folks with insight to explore this possibility, or to demonstrate where this was tangential or irrelevant to core cryptography problems.

    That is not nonsensical.

    Oh, and I think you might need to get laid, or something.

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