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Can Open Source Give Comfort To the Enemy?

zlite writes "We make open source Unmanned Aerial Vehicles (drones), mostly for geomapping and other amateur uses. One of our problems is that most people think of UAVs as Scary Things, and despite our efforts to prove otherwise there's always the risk of regulatory crackdowns. We have amateur UAV participants from around the world, but now they've been joined by an Iranian in Tehran, who has made a UAV in the colors of the Iranian flag. My instinct is that we should welcome everyone, everywhere, but I'm sure some in Washington worry that this looks like helping an 'Axis of Evil' country make advanced weapons. They could shut us down with the stroke of a pen. My question: is there ever a case for letting national security issues dictate the limits of an open source project?"

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  1. Re:Give the by PunkOfLinux · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    You ever read failed states or hegemony or survival by noam chomsky?

  2. Re:Give the by SwedishPenguin · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    No they don't send suicide bombers, they do however send missiles and bomber planes with little regard for the palestinian civilian population, tell me how that's any better. Face it, Israel is as much to blame as Palestine in the conflict.
    I think this conflict is an excellent example of why religion should be completely abolished worldwide, it's the most idiotic concept the human mind has ever invented and only serves to create conflict and restrict peoples rights.

  3. Re:Give the by Gordonjcp · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    it wasn't Israel who was swearing to wipe out other countries

    They're doing a good job of it on Palestine though

    nor do they send suicide bombers to blow up buses of children

    They don't need suicide bombers. They have tanks with bulldozer blades and helicopter gunships that they use instead.

    Israel is certainly not squeaky clean

    You can say that again.

    having enemies around you screaming for your destruction

    Maybe there's a reason for that.

  4. Re:Give the by fireweaver · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    Muslims game everything for their benefit. It is written down in their scriptures. It is also written in their scriptures "not to take christians and jews as friends", "to fight them until they submit" ("islam" means "submission" BTW), "to terrorise them wherever they are", and so forth and so on. All of islam is an endless litany of hate incomprehensible to someone who is not muslim or who has not had extensive dealings with muslims. If you go here, http://www.faithfreedom.org/ you will learn more than you ever wanted to know about islam.

  5. You Americans will be the death of Americans by theolein · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    You know what completely utterlyblows my mind? It is that you Americans seem so utterly incapable of learning from your own history and mistakes. Even Bush, who has spent the past 4 years denying that Iraq was another Vietnam finally admitted it last week, in a fit of desperation to try avoiding what has become pretty obvious to every one else: Iraq is lost. The only way of preventing total genocide in Iraq is divinding the country into 3 and trying to pacify the Turks into not invading Kurdistan. The lesson form Vietnam: You cannot win a guerilla war if the population does not support you. You can of course just kill everyone, but it'll be hard pissing on the Russians, Chinese and Indians about their human rights when you're busy doing a little genocide yourself.

    What does this have to do with Iran? Your CIA and the British MI6 engineered a coup in 1955 overthrowing the elected Iranian government with the Shah, who was widley hated and despised. In 1978 the Iranians revolted and threw him out and let Khomeini back in. Then, in 1979 a bunch of Iranian students held a bunch of Americans hostage at the US embasssy in Teheran for some 400 days. The US messed up a rescue attempt and has been trying to topple the Iranian governemnt ever since, firstly by funding Saddam's WMD programmes and then by encouraging him to invade Iran in 1980. In that bloody mess of a war, some 600,000 Iranians died fighting, literaly, for their country (unlike the invasion and following war in Iraq which was no threat to the US). Saddam used US sponsored and condoned nerve gas on Iranian soliders (and his own people). The US covertly sold F-14 parts to the Iranians in order to fund the murderous Contra counterrevolutionaries in Nicaragua, thereby making Yet Another Unneeded Enemy(TM).

    During the Iran-Iraq war the US Navy shot down an Iranian civillian airliner. The US refused to apologise for the deaths of some 290 civillians and has never done so. Most Iranians, even the liberal student types that your own right wing conservatives would be calling traitors if they were American, think that the US is responsible for most of the bloodshed that has befallen Iran in the last 50 years or so.

    Now, Iran, after decades of verbal abuse (and its own batshit crazy governments, but I'll get to that soonish) and sanctions saw the invasion of Iraq and assumed that Bush and his cabal of lunatics would be crazy enough to do that to Iran too. So they started developing nuclear weapons, because the US despite its constant posturing, is really shit scared of anyone with the same weapons that it has (see North Korea for an example). The US has been screaming about the threat to Israel^America, etc etc etc ever since and making claims about starting a war, making attacks etc. The Iranian government is batshit crazy and unpopular inside Iran, and young people long for more freedom. Your governments constant provocation has pretty successfully suffocated any possibility of that happening.

    Congratulations, you've made Yet Another Unneeded Enemy(TM). You have successfully provoked the Iranians into hating the very breaths you take, so that you, you dumbass fucking moron article author, can make claims about aiding the enemy. Fantastic.

    P.S. Remember the Nicaraguans, the other Unneeded Enemy. Recently they had an election and one of the people running was a Guy called Ortega, who ran the country while the US tried with a very dirty and bloody war to topple him in the 80s. The US sent a number of threats down there openly telling the Nicaraguans not to vote for Ortega. The Nicraguans told you to get fucked and voted for him anyway. See the pattern? The US has done this with Russia (the bonehead Orange revolution in the Ukraine which has since turned out to be an utter farce, putting missiles up against the Russian border), China (economic threats, currency threats, warnings about the Chinese military ad nauseam) and others. You managed to piss the Russians off so badly, that they have recently restarted long range bomber patrols to test th

  6. Re:Anyone Still Listening? by ChrisMaple · · Score: 0, Flamebait
    The whole concept of guerilla warfare is plausible deniability, which you have consumed hook, line, and sinker. "Oh no, we don't know about those military training camps, and we're not funding them." "We never sent those suicide bombers. They just happened to live here a few years ago. We don't know how they got those explosives."

    Islam is by its nature violently opposed to non-Islamic civilization. Until Koran-based religion is wiped off the face of the earth we will continue having these problems. Christianity isn't much better.

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  7. Re:Give the by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Hezbollah is no more a terrorist organization than the US Marines.

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    "Flyin' in just a sweet place,
    Never been known to fail..."
  8. Israel by falconwolf · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    The ledger of atrocities is about 10 (if not 100) to 1 in favor of Israel.

    You're absolutely right, for every Israeli killed many more Palestinians are killed. Not only does Israel kill more Palestinians but more Palestinians are forced off their land. Israel even has refuseniks who refuse to participate in some government actions, such as serving in the occupied territories.

    Falcon
  9. Iran, Israel and terrorism by falconwolf · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Iran supports global terrorism. It openly supports Hizballah and other terroist organizations.

    Maybe you didn't know it but not only has Israel supported terrorists, Muslim terrorists at that, but Israel was founded by terrorists. Ask the British what they thought of the Stern Gang, Lehi.

    Falcon