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Beijing Police To Launch Animated Web Patrols

Reader geoffrobinson notes an AP story on a new initiative by the police in Beijing to put a visible police presence on the screens of Chinese citizens. Starting Sept. 1, little animated cop figures will wander across the displays of users of a baker's dozen of Chinese Web portals. The program is set to expand by year's end to all sites "registered with Beijing servers," according to the report. The point of the anime-like figures seems to be to remind citizens that their Web usage is being monitored, not to actually implement any further monitoring themselves.

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  1. Sweet! by Spudtrooper · · Score: 5, Funny

    Bonzi Buddy got a new job!

  2. Oh no! by orionop · · Score: 5, Funny

    What is next, an animated goatse reminding us of the horrors that are to be found on the internet?

    1. Re:Oh no! by WhatAmIDoingHere · · Score: 2, Funny

      Award 4 internets to this person.

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  3. So by Vinegar+Joe · · Score: 5, Funny

    If you google Tiananmen does a little animated tank come out and crush your cursor?

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    1. Re:So by Phybersyk0 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Nope. 404-Not Found.

      (Most Chinese people under 30 don't know about the Tianamen Square protests -- Those that do don't really hold the event in high regard, as the student protest leaders are rumored to have had passports/visa's and transportation to get out of the country after the protest was held.)

      Americans like the idea of revolution, but when it happens for real, good people die.(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_revolut ion/) The Chinese government knows this, and freedoms will come, but it's going to take time. Generations. Not weeks.

    2. Re:So by RuBLed · · Score: 2, Funny

      Remember those ads where you need to shoot the rubber ducks and win a prize? I'm smelling a firefox addon going to be made by a pissed Chinese.

    3. Re:So by SQL+Error · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Americans like the idea of revolution, but when it happens for real, good people die.
      Revolutionary's Handbook Tip #1: When you throw out the bad old system, try not to replace it with something worse.
  4. 1984 by martinelli · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Big Brother is Watching You

    1. Re:1984 by Chairboy · · Score: 5, Funny

      Shouldn't that be "Big Brother is watching Yu"?

  5. A study I was a part of in college by garcia · · Score: 5, Interesting

    During college I took a SOC or PSYC class (I forget which) and as part of the class you were required to "volunteer" as a subject in a study on campus. The one I was part of was doing data entry and every so often a little head would appear in the top corner that was to signify that a "supervisor" was watching what you did.

    They wanted to see if your data entry slowed/sped up, if your errors increased/decreased, etc. While I don't know what the end result was, I was shown my results and found that when the "supervisor" was in the corner I was less attentive and my data entry slowed.

    What if a majority of students/researchers in China are working on their Internet (yes, their) and the "virtua-cop" fucks up their work? I can't imagine that this will do anything but be ridiculous and annoying.

    Waste your time on something else, seriously.

    1. Re:A study I was a part of in college by JonTurner · · Score: 4, Insightful

      >>every so often a little head would appear in the top corner that was to signify that a "supervisor" was watching...
      Fascinating study! I guess the Panopticon would cause people to just freak out. Maybe the pervasive monitoring in some societies (UK, Hong Kong) is both a symptom AND a cause of the very crime it's meant to monitor.

      >>What if a majority of students/researchers in China are working on their Internet (yes, their) and the "virtua-cop" fucks up their work?
      The short answer is: the officials don't care. Truly. Government is about control, not service, and it's certainly not measured by the results it gives. That's a very "western" viewpoint. And this government has a particularly nasty (and long) history of killing its own folks.

  6. Insert clippy joke here. by rabiddeity · · Score: 4, Funny

    You look like you're trying to access the Real Internet! Would you like me to:

    -block the sites you're trying to access
    -uninstall your proxy software
    -report you to the authorities for re-education
    -subtly rewrite your search results

  7. Re:Odd... by QuantumG · · Score: 3, Funny

    "He said he was going somewhere he would need Euros"

    Damn you single trade currency!

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  8. I saw one of these guys hanging around this site by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny
  9. Re:AT&T, NSA andHomeland scrutiny are the next by garcia · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I am sure the NeoCons are drooling at a visual reminder "We are watching your every mouse click".
    They will have the "Terror level" displayed on a flag carried by a little goose-stepping Uncle Sam.


    They're doing enough of that in the media. They'd rather let you pretend you are supporting the "land of the free" with some sense of false freedom feeling.

    Honestly, at least the Chinese know they're being watched at every step and don't have a government watching them closely but pretending they don't.

  10. Bad Link by johndiii · · Score: 4, Informative

    I assume that you mean http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Revolution. And it was not a revolution in the way that we normally understand it. From the article:

    It was launched by the Communist Party of China's Chairman, Mao Zedong on May 16, 1966, officially as a campaign to rid China of its "liberal bourgeoisie" elements and to continue revolutionary class struggle. It is widely recognized, however, as a method to regain control of the party after the disastrous Great Leap Forward led to a significant loss of Mao's power to rivals Liu Shaoqi and Deng Xiaoping, and would eventually manifest into waves of power struggles between rival factions both nationally and locally.

    Many people did die, but the net result was that some people who already had power got more, and some people that had power lost it (and frequently their lives).

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    1. Re:Bad Link by Phybersyk0 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Many people did die, but the net result was that some people who already had power got more, and some people that had power lost it (and frequently their lives).

      I think you grossly understate things.

      I've personally met more than a handful people in China who simply refuse to discuss the Cultural Revolution in any detail at all. They wont even document their experience in writing. It's still too painful for them.

    2. Re:Bad Link by DDLKermit007 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It's not that it's painful as much as it's a giant black mark on Chinese history. The Chinese usually hate discussing ANYTHING that they/the government lost face on. An act that causes a loss of face (even if for a good reason) is something people disappear over in China.

    3. Re:Bad Link by Jarik_Tentsu · · Score: 2, Insightful

      We're learning about Chinese revolution from a really good History teacher at school at the moment (she wrote one of the text books for the course and is mentioned by Richard Pipes =P). Now we have only just finished the Great Leap Forward and started the Cultural Revolution, but from what I understand so far...

      The cultural revolution was another one of Mao's 'mad' policies in which he felt his *own* commanders and party officials, intellectual advisors, etc etc were becoming corrupt and to stop this, he called once again for a new revolution. Kinda contradictory to the 100 Flowers campaign (When he was asking intellectuals for criticism).

      Mao may have been an amazing revolutionary, but he failed as a leader...constantly trying to create a new radical revolution without any sort of knowledge on what he was on about. Like his "plant deep, plant close" policy in the GLF which even a child could say would not work...

      I think he just loved revolution - his policy of the Mass Line implemented, with the peasants rising up to kill someone...if you read Chung and Halliday, they'll describe him as someone who got a bloodlust for revolution during his implementation of the Mass Line in Jingxi.

      ~Jarik

  11. How annoying by Kris_J · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I've voluntarily installed screenmate software before and typically it doesn't last past the day. I can't imagine there won't be plenty of programs written to turn them off.

  12. Is it really funny? by Nymz · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If you google Tiananmen does a little animated tank come out and crush your cursor?
    I laughed at first too, because the whole idea seems pointless and annoying, as if we don't have enough unwanted pop-ups and such. But then I realize I'm free, so I can only imagine how creepy, and how sad it is to be reminded every half hour that you are so subjugated.
    1. Re:Is it really funny? by Spikeles · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The biggest trick the government ever pulled was convincing the citizen that he was free

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    2. Re:Is it really funny? by fractoid · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The biggest trick the government ever pulled was convincing the citizen that he was free Go outside and yell "The government sucks!" three times, then post conspiracy theory crap everywhere. Did they suppress you? No?
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    3. Re:Is it really funny? by Eivind · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You're not free. You are *more* politically free than the average person in China, but freedom ain't an "on/off" kind of thing, it's a "more/less" kind of thing.

      The sad thing is though, that while the average chinese has become steadily more and more free lately, the trend in USA has been the other way, you guys are significantly less *free* now than you where a decade or two ago.

      You require government-permission if you want to take pictures of a group of more than 2 people for over 20 minutes in Central Park, using a tripod. You are not allowed to talk about certain kinds of knowledge, like for example even that de-CSS exist. Your government maintains it can legitimately keep people imprisoned indefinitely while giving same neither the rigths of a POV nor the rigths of a criminal. You cannot bring something as trivial as a can of coke with you on a plane. You have to walk trough metal-detectors and accept answering questioning to be allowed to enter public buildings. You're not allowed to take apart objects that you own to figure out how they work. (not generally anyway) and if you *do* figure out how they work, sharing that knowledge with others may be a crime. You've been falling steadily on "freedom-of-press" rankings for the last decade, you used to be near the top, these days you're under average for a western democracy. "Free speech zones" (no comment needed)

      USA is still in pretty good shape, certainly miles ahead of countries like china. But you're on the wrong track. You need to wake up.

    4. Re:Is it really funny? by ultranova · · Score: 2, Insightful

      But then I realize I'm free, so I can only imagine how creepy, and how sad it is to be reminded every half hour that you are so subjugated.

      You need not worry; by all available evidence, the Chinese government is doing its level best to keep its citizens from being reminded of the Tiananmen massacre.

      As for you, you won't be free until the last libertarian is strangled with the entrails of the last fascist. As long as we keep on letting ideology of any kind to guide our political or economic decisions, the end result will always be the same: the real world won't conform to the theory, so it gets hammered there by force, since the other choice is admitting that the theory was wrong.

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    5. Re:Is it really funny? by Eivind · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The thing about "emergency" laws though, is that they're not *actually* repelled even nearly as often as you would like them to be. There are strong forces that *want* such laws, permanently, and whatever emergency pops up is a welcome excuse to push them trough rapidly. If the laws are still there 20 years later, who will even remember?

      If the "emergency" part was seriously meant, the laws would come with an automatic expiry-date. "This law expires automatically in 3 years, unless extended by congress", but none of them tend to do that. Which makes whomever suggests canceling them look like the bad guy. Let's face it, it doesn't make much political capital to be the guy making the suggestion to remove so-called "anti-terror" laws, for example.

      A practical example ? TWA 800 broke up and exploded shortly after take-off headed for Paris from Kennedy airport. FBI argued for, and got, new wiretap-powers, meant to assist them in investigating the supposed terrorist-attack. This was in 1996. The end report from the FBI concluded that the explosion was the result of a mechanical error in the plane, and that there is no indication any criminal activity was involved. The laws ? Still in effect til this very day.

      Sure. *some* is reversed. But really, for every one step in the direction of freedom in american law the last decade or two, there's been atleast 5 steps in the oposite direction. So the net result is degradation.

    6. Re:Is it really funny? by Eivind · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The situation in China is, as you point out, still very bad.

      I still think it's justified to say it's improving though. First, China is a lot more open than it used to be. Sure, there are draconian internet-filters and arbitrary shutdowns of in-china sites that the government doesn't like. But being on the internet at all is still, by itself, a huge step forward, as we all know a *LOT* of stuff leaks trough even the most paranoid of filters.

      Chinese are now able to start and own businesses, which didn't use to be the case.

      China has now put into its constitution that people have a rigth to have their human rigths respected. They don't live up to it, not even close, but still, including it in the constitution has to be seen as a step in the rigth direction.

      Equal rigths are for women and men are improving. Over 35% of the officials in China are now female, which is a lot better than some years ago.

      Death-penalty is now put under review by the supreme court. China claims the result is a 10% decline in its use, though I wouldn't trust the numbers really.

      There's more. Much more.

      Still, I agree that China isn't making even *close* to as much progress as we'd like. There are even areas where the situation is worsening, like how a lot of people in Tibet are being treated.

      On the whole though, I think it's fair to say that the human-right-situation in China today is somewhat better than it was 10, or 20, or 30 years ago.

    7. Re:Is it really funny? by asuffield · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Go outside and yell "The government sucks!" three times, then post conspiracy theory crap everywhere. Did they suppress you? No?


      In China? No, you just disappear. Maybe the government did it. Maybe the mafia did it because you owed them money. Maybe you ran away with a girl. Maybe you're escaping after committing a crime. That's why they do it that way - people go missing all the time, and nobody can be sure which ones were government work. It makes it very easy for people to believe that the government isn't actually doing anything wrong, and that's part of how they convince the citizen that he's free.

      Realistically though, the Chinese government does not tend to do anything about the kind of behaviour you describe. They don't actually care what you do - they just pay attention to the effect you have. Anybody who creates an effect that they don't like tends to disappear. Ineffectual people are left alone.
    8. Re:Is it really funny? by kalirion · · Score: 2, Funny

      Reminds me of an old Soviet joke:

      A Russian and an American are discussing the merits of their governments.

      The American says, "We have full freedom of speech. I could stand on a soap box all day and yell 'The American government sucks, and the American president is a criminal' and I would not be arrested."

      The Russian replies, "That's nothing. I could go into Kremlin, call a press conference with invitations to all the communist party leaders, and announce 'The American government sucks, and the American president is a criminal' and I would be commended."

    9. Re:Is it really funny? by bcharr2 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Don't you wish that every government and corporation on the planet would adopt this policy, and bluntly remind/inform you when they are monitoring you?

  13. Easy Vista by KingPrad · · Score: 4, Funny

    This should streamline running Vista. Now whenever you are prompted for Allow/Deny the character will go ahead and choose Deny for you. Every time.

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  14. Re:AT&T, NSA andHomeland scrutiny are the next by pclminion · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Maybe you should consider that a country can be fucked up even if it isn't the worst on Earth. Sure, we might be doing better than China based on some criteria, but that doesn't mean there aren't quite a few things seriously wrong. "If you don't like it, leave." No thanks. If I don't like it I'll do what I can to fix it. Pointing out what's wrong is the first step.

  15. Perception of Freedom by Nymz · · Score: 2, Informative

    The biggest trick the government ever pulled was convincing the citizen that he was free
    If I end up in prison after Yahoo 'complies' with my government, then I'll reconsider my perception of freedom.
    1. Re:Perception of Freedom by slashdot.org · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If I end up in prison after Yahoo 'complies' with my government, then I'll reconsider my perception of freedom.

      Some people believe that freedom is the ability to do whatever you want so long as you don't hurt anyone else. Given that definition, the US is far from a free country.

      As an example, explain how drinking alcohol is considered fine and smoking weed can land you in jail. (despite stacks of research proving that pot has less negative effects than alcohol does)

      Not to mention Guantanamo. Those aren't citizens, so they don't count.

  16. Re:AT&T, NSA andHomeland scrutiny are the next by non · · Score: 2, Insightful

    i don't know where to begin, either you're a total idiot, or just another ditto-head, and frankly i can't tell the difference anymore. while your rights and liberties are being slowly^H^H^Hrapidly eroded, you sit back and say, "if you don't like it, leave." perhaps you'd care to comment on adequate controls in government as they apply to electronic communications by the executive branch staff? or even more so, on the number of executive orders made by the current administration?

    foreigners, nationals of a country widely considered to be the most corrupt in the first world, have said to me, " its not that we're any more corrupt than you are, its just that you're professionals at it."

    trust me, when it comes to electronic communications, you are every bit as monitored here as in china. why don't you google 'network packet monitor index'. the vendors returned by such a search will be those that contracted to the intelligence agencies years ago; the chinese use equipment cloned from such specifications.

    and while you're on the subject of forced abortions, why don't you think about the possibly of forced pregnancy.

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  17. Awww... by StikyPad · · Score: 3, Funny

    They're so cute they just make me want to limit my searches to government approved propaganda and puppies.

  18. This is a problem because...? by Mr.+Roadkill · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Look, we all know that the Chinese government is going to be monitoring as much as it can. They're control freaks. I, for one, welcome any measures they take to remind the people that they're being watched - maybe such reminders will help the people of china think about what kind of society they live in and what kind of society they would like to live in, and encourage them to take action to try to shape their future.

  19. I'll bite the trollbait... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I live in China, and I can tell you that it's certainly not in a "death-like state like that the of Chinese government oppression". Sure, censorship exists, the government is quite corrupt and abusive, especially on the lower levels, and it can be hard to find a good book. It drives me up the wall sometimes, just how flat the popular culture is- anything controversial gets dropped like a hot rock.

    On the other hand, there are raunchy popular novels (printed by half-legal vanity presses) being sold right outside my door. There's tons of (bad) modern art expressing the pain of living in Chinese society, and (bad) rock 'n roll expressing the pain of being young and unloved. Although there are fewer than 100 movies released to theaters each year on the mainland, every film ever made is sporadically available on DVD, from Deep Throat to To Live to They Live. Chinese people can find every sort of approved and forbidden idea under the sun if they're curious, and they're mostly free to discuss it in private. Publishing is another thing, but the Cultural Revolution is over, and you can pretty much say whatever you want to your friends.

    China is booming, and the authorities can barely keep it under control. I won't defend their actions (although cartoon cops are hardly the worst things they do....) but the notion that China in any way resembles 1984 is absurd. While the government is sliding from totalitarian Communism towards plutocracy, the people are getting away with everything they can, and it's a lot. I don't hold out a lot of hope that we'll have big D Democracy here anytime soon, but to imagine that this country, or the US, or anyone else would somehow be better off in a Massive 3rd World War is insane.

    You are insane.

  20. Re:AT&T, NSA andHomeland scrutiny are the next by ari_j · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Without reading the whole thread, I do know that the next step is formulating a coherent statement of what is wrong and why it is, in fact, wrong. The third step is proposing a solution that will not introduce more problems than it solves. The fourth is convincing enough of the right people that your solution has sufficient merit to be implemented.

    One problem that the USA does not have that China does is that the above steps are impossible for a Chinese subject (I hesitate to use the word citizen) to complete. You normally don't make it past the first step before the government comes to explain why there isn't actually a problem to be solved.

  21. Tentacles by mwvdlee · · Score: 3, Funny

    Can you get all hentai on that girl cop and "interact" with her using a tentacle cursor?

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  22. Here's a question... by Gordonjcp · · Score: 3, Interesting

    ... prompted by the word "Tianamen" - the Great Firewall of China blocks "objectionable content" based on keywords. Presumably it doesn't only work on port 80, otherwise people would be proxying web traffic through non-standard ports.

    If I'm getting a lot of spam from China, would sticking words that trigger the firewall in my SMTP HELO response automatically block them?

  23. Re:conflict with China by ultranova · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Last time I checked, China has about 130 nuclear warheads, US has 9 960, and Russia has 16 000.

    Guess who is going to be obliterated first when the WW3 begins.

    Whoever the guy with the fastest missiles hates most ?

    Please understand that having 9960 nuclear warheads in no way stops 130 enemy warheads from reaching you. While 130 nuclear warheads is not sufficient to carpet bomb a country the size of the USA, it is quite sufficient to take out large cities, industry, food production and central administration. The end result is likely massive death toll from starvation and plague, and collapse of the USA as a nation, or at the very least its removal from its world power status.

    So no, no one dares attack China.

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  24. Re:conflict with China by Grym · · Score: 2, Interesting

    While 130 nuclear warheads is not sufficient to carpet bomb a country the size of the USA, it is quite sufficient to take out large cities, industry, food production and central administration. The end result is likely massive death toll from starvation and plague, and collapse of the USA as a nation, or at the very least its removal from its world power status.

    What you describe is entirely unlikely. You act as if the U.S. military would sit back passively while the Chinese spent hours fueling their 130 nuclear missiles. Why would we when we have the means to hit them before they even get off the ground (via Submarine-based ICBMs and Nuclear-armed cruise missiles)?

    I suggest you look up the term Nuclear Primacy. Having nukes doesn't mean much if they would be obliterated before they can even be launched.

    So no, no one dares attack China.

    Perhaps not conventionally, but this is more for geopolitical reasons than military ones. Even in conventional warfare, the U.S. Navy is completely unmatched by anything China has to offer.

    The funny thing is is how these facts shock even Americans. Should this really be that surprising? The United States spends more on its military than all the other countries in the world combined. You get what you pay for.

    -Grym

  25. Mod parent up by shadowbearer · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I suspect that many people who remember the old Soviet Union would recognize that technique as well.

      Just as a general comment on this thread, not @ you asuffield, is that those of you who yammer on, constantly, about how much freedom we have in this country would be better off looking after it, rather than boasting about it. Especially because the boasting makes you looked pretty damned foolish to some people who have perhaps considered the issue a little more objectively and at least made an effort to learn some history. Start at least as early as the Greeks ;)

      Oh, and get off my lawn :)

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