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A Step Closer to Creating Artificial Life

slick_shoes writes to mention that Italian researcher Giovanni Murtas has taken another step towards creating life in a test tube. "To the untrained eye, the tiny, misshapen, fatty blobs on Giovanni Murtas's microscope slide would not look very impressive. But when the Italian scientist saw their telltale green fluorescent glint he knew he had achieved something remarkable — and taken a vital step towards building a living organism from scratch. The green glow was proof that his fragile creations were capable of making their own proteins, a crucial ability of all living things and vital for carrying out all other aspects of life."

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  1. My recipe for artificial life! by tjstork · · Score: 4, Funny

    I create artificial life with a 12 pack of Genny Cream Ales and a Dominos Pizza!

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  2. There is life by eclectro · · Score: 4, Funny

    The green glow was proof that his fragile creations were capable of making their own proteins Or that they were reading slashdot.
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  3. Re:Great, exciting and all, but ... by Grr · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If this technique (as mentioned in the article) can be used to artificially create fuel it can eliminate oilspills, because fuel can be produced where it is needed. Saves lots of coastal birds.
    If this can be used to create artificial meat (now I'm extrapolating) there's no more need to have hurdes of hamburgers grazing away at acres of former rainforest. Saves many of those endangered but unknown species you're talking about. Maybe it can even be used to grow artifical hardwood.

    Sounds to me this is exactly the sort of research that eliminates the impact of human consumption on the environment by making it more efficient.

  4. Matter knowing it's own existence by TheBearBear · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The concept of matter ending up as human beings, and then being aware of its own existence, is mind blowing! Is there a scientific definition for life? I don't mean the using energy and waste - has dna - reproduces - want to will to survive stuff. I hope you understand what I am trying to ask. Like a clump of matter one day, then aware of its own existence the next day, what a transition!!

    I've read that some say it just might be that it's all just a bunch of chemical/electrical interactions, but to get to the point where matter contemplates its own existence is just on a different level. So it's big bang heat explosion stars planets...then human beings (albeit much much later). Is that something you can say is a property of matter? That at some point it will know of its own existence?

    What's/where's the threshold between a blob of carbon+goo, and me? Or at least, are there any theories? Or is all of this stuff discussed only in the philosphical realm?

    1. Re:Matter knowing it's own existence by BarneyL · · Score: 5, Interesting

      What's/where's the threshold between a blob of carbon+goo, and me? Or at least, are there any theories? Or is all of this stuff discussed only in the philosphical realm?
      You are assuming that self awareness is an all or nothing situation.
      More realistically all living things could be placed on a scale with carbon and goo at the bottom end perhaps small mammals next, then moving up through apes to us.
      And of course finally to dolphins and the white mice who are secretly running the whole experiment.
    2. Re:Matter knowing it's own existence by ajs · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The concept of matter ending up as human beings, and then being aware of its own existence, is mind blowing! Well, most of the matter that makes up human beings has no awareness whatsoever. Only those portions that take part in the higher-order neurological functions are part of that process. Your fingernails are not aware, which is why you feel no sympathy for those parts of your body when you mercilessly cut them off and throw them away, unceremoniously in the trash. Awareness is a feedback loop which exists in anything with a spinal cord. This feedback loop is increasingly complex in more evolved species, culminating in... man? Perhaps. Perhaps marine mammals have a more complex awareness. We're not sure. Certainly we combine awareness and a drive to manipulate our environment to an extent which is unrivaled.

      Is there a scientific definition for life? I don't mean the using energy and waste - has dna - reproduces - want to will to survive stuff. You're confused. That's life. You're looking for a definition of intelligence, and frankly, no. There's no universally agreed upon definition of intelligence. Part of the problem is that we have only one example of what we consider to be "an intelligent species," and it's that species that is trying to produce the definition. Does the spectrum of intelligence continue past our point of development? Would a more intelligent species have a very different definition? Do we process information in ways that make it impossible to objectively define intelligence? We don't know.

      Like a clump of matter one day, then aware of its own existence the next day, what a transition!! This is a gross oversimplification, on par with "a trickle of water one day, and the grand canyon the next day, what a transition!!" No, it took *billions* of years to reach the stage of simple bacterial life forms on Earth. Just moving from ape-like creatures to humans as we see them today took over a million years (think of it as 50,000 repetitions of "great" before the phrase "grand monkey"). Now look back at Europe in the middle ages, just handfulls of generations ago when humans were about 80% of our current average height. Imagine the possible changes in humanity over 100-1000 times that span of time. Now, multiply that amount of change times 1,000-2,000 and you have roughly the period that it took life on Earth to evolve from microbes. This is not "matter one day, then aware of its own existence the next day." Even when measured against the development of the entire universe, this is a very substantial period of time. Think about that. Galaxies formed in about the time than it took Earth to go from lifeless rock to our home.

  5. For those with Academic Paper subscriptions by starseeker · · Score: 5, Informative

    For those who want more meat, these look like places to start:

    Pier Luigi Luisi, Francesca Ferri and Pasquale Stano Approaches to semi-synthetic minimal cells: a review
    http://www.springerlink.com/content/y218jk71n1k407 85/

    Giovanni Murtas Question 7: Construction of a Semi-Synthetic Minimal Cell: A Model for Early Living Cells
    http://www.springerlink.com/content/9p404l8247968n 72/

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  6. Re:Great, exciting and all, but ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This new Bioshock game is pretty nice and all, but really does nothing to help those kids living with AIDS in South Africa. What the fuck.

  7. It all seems fine by fishthegeek · · Score: 4, Funny

    It all seems fine and well, what with creating life artificially but, speaking for all the red blooded American, European, African, and Asian males in the world there is just no substitute for doing it the old fashioned way.

    At least that's what I hear.

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    1. Re:It all seems fine by slurry47 · · Score: 4, Funny

      What do the Australians know that we don't?

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  8. In a galaxy far away by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 3, Funny
    Mouse1: Hi Dormie, look! The life we created in this test tube is capable of making its own life!

    Mouse2: No Way! Get out of here! Lemme look! Darn it, looks like they have done it. What did you call them?

    Mouse1: Humans.

    Mouse2: What do we do now?

    Mouse1: First we need to redraw the plans for the highway, we can no longer run it through Earth. It would be unethical to destroy such an advanced form of life. I never thought they will survive this long though, truth be told.

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  9. Re:Great, exciting and all, but ... by gibbdog · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That is a very close minded comment. By the same token I guess everybody working on computer science is wasting their time as they should be studying cancer research and trying to find a cure (and just running folding@home doesn't count).

    The fact is, different people are good at different fields. Just because someone is a biologist or scientist in general does not mean that they studying all fields of biology. It is a highly specialized field with many different niches. Sure, the niches that some fill may not *seem* to be cutting edge high profile making the headlines ground breaking research. However, every bit of info that is documented may be useful someday.

    And by the way... I think being able to build something from scratch is a pretty damn good way of learning out something works and how to help it.

  10. Re:Great, exciting and all, but ... by Elemenope · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Well, it is Natural Selection, which only goes to show how insufficient an excuse natural selection is. Humans are a natural selection pressure force (unless you believe that we were placed here by divine or other supernatural powers...pleh) just like any other species. Humans are unlike most in that we can, if we choose, attempt to gain awareness of what our effects are, and modulate some of them with a bit of effort. That we can change things to accord to some moral conception of proper living within an ecology or not is a different issue, quite beyond the notion that it is, at base natural selection at work.

    The problem here is you are identifying a normative impulse in the phrase Natural Selection (natural=good, artifical=bad...roughly) and then complaining that the normative meanings being assigned are insufficient to describe the actual moral consequences of the situation. I'd say it would be better to read "natural selection" as a descriptive term only, and take moral considerations where they belong, which is in identifying when and how human actions can be good or bad.

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  11. Re:From scratch? by maxwell+demon · · Score: 4, Funny

    Know what they say....

    "In order to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first create the universe."
    ~ Carl Sagan That's not true. You just have to type:

    cd scratch
    make apple_pie
    See? No make universe needed.
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  12. Belgian Blue!? by joshzweig · · Score: 3, Funny

    Real men eat soylent green.