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Underground Mac Community Foils a Coup

An anonymous reader writes "In an attempted palace coup that would not have been out of place in a Shakespearian tragedy, a moderator faction at Mac Serial Junkie, one of the largest underground Mac communities, was shut out this weekend after it was discovered that many staff members were plotting a coup. The plans included a surreptitious takeover of the domain name macserialjunkie.com. In an Open Letter to the Community, the founders of MSJ explain how a number of people at the highest levels of the underground planned their takeover activities for almost two years, only to be foiled at the last minute."

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  1. Who cares? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I assume this is some sort of piracy forum, but regardless, who cares? This stuff happens all the time on forums and IRC. Owner X doesn't do much/disappears leaving Y in charge. Y gets upset that he's doing all the work while X enjoys ownership. Y plots takeover, and either does or fail and is replaced by Z.

    1. Re:Who cares? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Yea, it's a site to swap software serial numbers. Amusing that people who are content to rip off other people's hard work suddenly think they have the moral high ground when they're about to be ripped off themselves. Pot, kettle, etc.

    2. Re:Who cares? by gEvil+(beta) · · Score: 4, Funny

      Pot, kettle, etc.

      Boiling water? Tea? Why yes, I would love a spot of tea.

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    3. Re:Who cares? by ksheff · · Score: 5, Funny

      CmdrTaco is getting scared that CowboyNeal is going to take over.

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    4. Re:Who cares? by Foerstner · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Are we talking about the CEO who laid off half the development team, required the remainder to work over time, and then gave himself a bonus by firing the rest after the product went gold or the pirates?

      I say this because more than naught developers are underpaid for their work and then have the hounds released on them by the bean counters when quarter figures need to look better.


      Nice little Freudian slip there.

      I'd wager that most of the successful commercial software companies treat their developers with a modicum of dignity. Sure, there have been dozens of exceptions over the years, but by and large it's hard to stay in the business if you treat your programmers like shit. It's a good way to make sure your company is a one-hit wonder. Perhaps that's why Adobe, Microsoft, and Google have all been on the "Best Companies to Work For" list, as have other software firms. They may not please all of their employees, but they generally have a reputation for taking care of their own.

      It's often a meaner existence for programmers who work for non-software companies like financial or logistics firms--they're viewed as a "cost," not a revenue stream.
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  2. This Is News For Nerds?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This sounds like it should be an item in a high school newspaper. No wonder, it's a kdawson story, poster of all useless and leftist drivel.

    Are you guys going to cover how Timmy is going to plotting to take over the treehouse next?

  3. Re:tag this whocares by quanticle · · Score: 5, Insightful

    No kidding. This is like the stories about scams and drama in EVE Online, but even more irrelevant.

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  4. Re:who fucking cares? by Derek+Loev · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I've said it before and got modded down. But I'll say it again (and get modded down).
    Was anybody surprised Kdawson posted this? Seriously, anybody.

  5. Re:tag this whocares by ScytheBlade1 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is one story that I honestly feel could be deleted, and no one would care.

    Because no one cares.

    Get this off the front page.

  6. Days of our lives by dekkerdreyer · · Score: 5, Funny

    This is quite a soap opera, but I think only people who regularly post on those forums could really care. So here's to the three of you.

    Next week on slashdot: How one moderator over at knittingmachines.org thwarted an attempt by 31337gr4ndm4 to copy the patterns of beloved moderator iknit4u.

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  7. Re:tag this whocares by sg3000 · · Score: 5, Funny

    > tag this whocares

    No, there's too much of a risk that someone will think that Dr. Who or those simpletons the Grinch was ripping off actually care about this tempest in a teapot.

    It would make more sense if Slashdot started a section specifically for stories like this. They could combine it with stories about changing alliances among pre-teen girls at our local Junior High School and which C-list celebrities are feuding with their former cast members. They could even reuse the OMG Ponies theme.

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  8. One person was by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Zonk, and boy, he's pissed he didn't get to post it.

  9. It had to be said by Cait+Sidhe · · Score: 5, Funny

    Internets: Serious Business

  10. Re:who fucking cares? by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 5, Funny

    y34h, 1tz n0t l1k3 n3 b0dy g1v3z a cr4p ab0u7 w4r3z 4 m4cs!!! a11 th3 31337 d00dz us3 w1nd0ze!!!!

  11. Re:Subterranean Homesick Blues by gEvil+(beta) · · Score: 5, Funny

    Highest levels of the underground? That means they're just below the surface, right? And they've been planning their takeover for almost two years? They don't sound all that motivated to me...

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  12. Re:tag this whocares by quanticle · · Score: 5, Funny

    Yes, and to further drive home the distinction, they could even place it under a different domain. Something like, Fark.com perhaps...

    /kidding
    //this is probably too irrelevant even for Fark
    ///slashies on Slashdot

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  13. Oh god... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    You know I'm going to hold you personally responsible for this if they create gossip.slashdot.org. I can just hear them now discussing how popular sites like TMZ and The Smoking Gun are.

    On the plus side, though, it might bring more girls to Slashdot.

    1. Re:Oh god... by rtyhurst · · Score: 4, Funny

      Helloo.

      I am hot Russian chix.

      You are makng me all moisty with insighful, funy and interstink commemt.

      Moderate me from behind, you big trouts!!

  14. tag: firehoseabuse by Nimey · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I see the trolls are gaming the firehose.

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  15. In Other News by Stevecat · · Score: 5, Funny

    SmR writes
    "In an attempted anthill coup that would not have been out of place in a tragic Discovery Channel special, the red ants in my backyard, owners of one of the largest anthills underground in my backyard, were doused with gasoline this weekend after it was discovered that a faction of the worker ants were plotting a coup. The plans included an unprecedented and sneaky incursion into my kitchen trash containing an old big Mac, cereal, and tasty junk. In an unexpected move I placed some honey-soaked borax in their trail and the poison infiltrated into the highest levels of their underground empire. Then dousing thier anthill with gasoline I ended their reign of almost two years, and thus they were foiled before my wife got home."

    Honestly, I think my story is more interesting.

    SmR

    1. Re:In Other News by iroll · · Score: 4, Funny

      It had a Mac in it, and thus is relevant to my interests!!

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  16. Re:WGAF by Poromenos1 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Man, you did not just use a regular expression when telling people to get girlfriends. Tell me that's not it.

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  17. Re:tag this whocares by mikael · · Score: 4, Funny

    Yes, and to further drive home the distinction, they could even place it under a different domain.

    Perhaps the Mac Serial Junkie People's Front?

    or the Popular Front of Mac Serial Junkie?

    or even the People's Front of Mac Serial Junkie?

    but not to be confused with the Popular Front of Mac Serial Junkie.

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  18. Ob: lame dupe joke, about dupes (lame, not funny) by edittard · · Score: 5, Funny

    Zonk, and boy, he's pissed he didn't get to post it.
    Not true. Strictly speaking, he only didn't get to post it first. Just wait a day or two.
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  19. Drat! by peacefinder · · Score: 4, Funny

    "Yea, it's a site to swap software serial numbers."

    Darn, I was hoping it was a site about Mac serial ports. I was gonna go ask a question...

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  20. Re:Hypocrisy by jjohnson · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Not quite. Regardless of ./ers participation in Eve, it's well known that it's a 100K strong community, so any interesting community dynamics are newsworthy, moreso because they reflect on the MMO genre itself.

    Most of the reason this is a non-story is that there's a total of four people with two servers involved. I'm far from certain that there's more than 100 people who even give a shit about the 'attempted coup'.

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  21. Re:tag this whocares by 24-bit+Voxel · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Funny you should mention this. When I was just a kid of about 12 or 13 years old the going modem rate was 2400 baud and BBS's were where it was at. The rules to get access to the adult sections were always crazy like send in a photocopy of a drivers license, and often times pretending to be a girl and flirting with the sysop gained you entry within 10 minutes, no ID required. Most of the time I just typed out word for word the bs letters from penthouse/playboy I'd found in my dad's closet. (In these days porn 'video' found online was usually about 12 frames of animation that was looped very well so the male was in a perpetual thrusting motion. Hilarious.)


    The best is when they called you out for downloading porn that obviously was predominately female, and telling the sysop that you really liked girls as well as guys and before you know it you have superuser status. You could download all kinds of things with that. (I think this is how I played police quest 2.) I remember having to setup fake 'meetings' with some of these sysops, just to keep status for a few more days. Nothing elevated user privelages faster than the possibility of some "hot chick" who is into girls and wants to meet you. Then I'd hide out for a few months and repeat the process all over again.


    My pops at the time didn't have unlimited local calling for the phone line and our first months phone bill was something like 700 dollars. Ah, those were the days.

    Anyway, don't always assume that the "chatroom moderator" isn't just out to find some busty images back in those days. Often it was guys pretending to be girls.

  22. Re:tag this whocares by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    THAT WAS YOU???

  23. Re:tag this whocares by Himring · · Score: 5, Funny

    And the editors reject so many worth-while stories. LoL! I can see it now:

    [Takes hit off joint] Editor: "Let's see [in a holding-breath-talking-way-that-pot-smokers-do], submissions, submissions, submissions.... Hrmm, 'Life found on mars' ... nah [rejected], 'ancient silicon chip found in egypt' ... nah [rejects], "ETI found 20 light years away" ... nah [rejects]. Omg! e-drama among mac geeks! Yes!!! [accepts]...."

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  24. Re:I found it interesting.. by osu-neko · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's also interesting how many people who don't care took the time to post flames about how much they don't care.

    It's the difference between a mature human being comfortable with his or her place in the universe, and an immature person who thinks he or she is the center of the universe. The mature individuals know some things interest them and some things don't, but that some of those things that don't interest them do interest other people. They simply skip over anything that doesn't interest them. The immature people get upset that something that doesn't interest them was posted. If it doesn't interest them, why did anyone waste the time posting it? If anyone else is interested in it, they must be "losers".

    The real problem at the core for them is, every time something is posted that doesn't interest them, it proves that the universe does not revolve around them, and they just can't stand that. So they must complain. Any time the universe does not appear to be specifically tailored for them, they must complain. Obviously something is wrong with the universe if it isn't arranged for their ultimate convenience.

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