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Mandatory Keyloggers in Mumbai's Cyber Cafes
YIAAL writes "Indian journalist Amit Varma reports that Mumbai's police are requiring the city's 500 Internet cafes to install keystroke loggers, which will capture every keystroke by users and turn that information over to the government — nearly in realtime by the sound of it. Buy things online, and the underpaid Indian police will have your credit card number. 'Will these end up getting sold in a black market somewhere? Not unlikely.'"
Of course this is ridiculous because the only people that will be effected by it are innocent people. Criminals and (gasp) terrorists will simply find other ways of communicating. The cafe owners will lose business, and innocent folks will suffer a completely useless invasion of privacy so the government can say they are doing something without actually doing something that makes any difference.
er don;t use the PUBLIC terminals in cyber cafes for things you would rather have secret. problem solved.
Many people in what we call "developing nations" do not have personal computers, and use computers in cyber cafes instead. This includes even computer-savvy people. Still a bad idea to buy online, in my opinion, but it transfers the onus of privacy from a cafe owner who you look in the face to some guy in an office somewhere. And as CounterStrike has taught us, it's a lot easier to be a fuckwad to people you can't see or hear.
... keyboards drawn on the screen under each input field, with Javascript to tie clicks by the mouse pointer on the keys in that keyboard image so the characters are inserted into the appropriate field.
Another option where Javascript can't be used is to create a printed character array that has all the characters. Use the mouse to copy and paste characters one at a time between there and the input field.
All this will be done through HTTPS, of course. Next come the mandatory rootkits. Then patrons bringing in their own Ubuntu or Knoppix disks.
now we need to go OSS in diesel cars
>Violent revolutions should only be reserved for "last resort" - there absolutely is no other choice.
So the colonies should have bit the bullet and waited for the next king to come around?
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The American Revolution had some very unique circumstances that don't typically exist in most revolutions.
That isn't to say that people facing an oppressive government shouldn't overthrow the government... but most revolutions won't have the very specific advantages that the United States had in its revolution. The United States got VERY VERY VERY lucky with the circumstances of its revolution.
Treason doth never prosper; what's the reason?
If it doth prosper, none dare call it treason.
Couldn't you just design a keylogger that would also tie it into the Windows messaging system and override all of the string classes implemented in the Windows APIs? In this way you could have it also capture the applicable string when the appropriate messages were sent in the Windows messaging system. If you see a WM_OK (for example), you could then check if a CString was altered or referenced. Similar things could be done with other GUI APIs.
If you're entering any information in to a computer at a cyber cafe that you don't want public then you are an idiot.
You can't trust any random computer you sit down at.
...and that is all I have to say about that.
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The way I see it, and from what I've seen through history, violent revolution is inevitable. No government is perfectly stable, and eventually all will fall. I see revolutions as a natural part of a cycle - birth, rise, rule, and collapse of an empire/government/civilization, only to begin anew again. Some countries unfortunately are stuck in a perpetual loop of revolution, which is sad, but that being said I do not think revolutions in general are avoidable. This is not to say I *condone* violent revolution per se, but rather that I think it is inevitable.
Furthermore, revolutions are a critical part of wealth redistribution. No matter how their contemporaries (or even historians!) try to sugar coat it with glitzy values like purity, freedom, liberty, etc, every major revolution that's ever occurred has had their basis in economics. When an oligarchy appears, when the poor and destitute become the majority, and simply when the wealth gap gets ridiculously wide, society will revolt and equalize the wealth (usually by slaughtering the rich). This is why I'm wary of the growing wealth divide in first-world nations, as the wider we get the closer we are to the next big revolution.
> That's why Karl Marx was either an idiot or an evil person because he recommended violence as normal standard procedure. Marx recommended nothing. He predicted it, he believed that communism was the inevitable future that would come down on the industrialized nations. But for most nations, the predicted growth of an underpaid and really exploited workforce just did not come into being, and so the socialist revolution was cancelled.
Blooming nonsense. The naturally naive outpourings of a self-hating Indian as usual:
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The Indian Constitution protects the Fundamental rights of people far more zealously than the US does. Freedom of Speech is certainly important. However, in a developing country with large volume of poor and exploitable people, the fundamental rights that the Constitution of India does guarantee ie:
1.Right to equality
2.Right to freedom
3.Right against exploitation
4.Right to freedom of religion
5.Cultural and educational rights
6.Right to constitutional remedies
Carry precedence in our social context. I'm no big fan of Babasaheb Ambedkar (he was quite the nutcase in other areas), but he knew what he was doing when he wrote the constitution.Have you even read the bloody thing, or are you just mouthing off nonsense?
Oh, and Article 19 Protection of certain rights regarding freedom of speech, etc.
(1) All citizens shall have the right -
(a) to freedom of speech and expression;
(b) to assemble peaceably and without arms;
(c) to form associations or unions;
(d) to move freely throughout the territory of India;
(e) to reside and settle in any part of the territory of India; and
(f) to practice any profession, or to carry on any occupation, trade or business.
Does guarantee freedom of speech. It's just not as high up on the list as the right not to be starved to death, is all (we've still got a loong way to go in that area though).
Have a read: http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Constitution_of_Ind
The only significant thing that the US constitution guarantees that the Indian Constitution does not is the right to bear arms (legal stuff, like the right not to incriminate yourself, are contained in the Indian penal code), and that IS due to historical reasons. It just doesn't figure too highly in our sociopolitical superstructure, and can easily be abused by certain people called "Naxalites" (remember those fine thugrats?).
Democracy is a great thing, and is implementable everywhere, but the specifics must vary with region/culture. You cannot fit the square peg of the US constitution into the round hole of India. You need a round peg. I wouldn't expect that a developed and wealthy nation like the United States would need a special Constitutional amendment like "Right against exploitation", sine that can be covered in the legal system.
l'Homme n'est Rien l'Oeuvre Tout: Gustave Flaubert to George Sand
Yes, because that 3% is more likely to contain those people you most want to catch.
Don't you think that the group that works hardest to evade inspection is the group you most want to inspect?
Exam 4/C again. Maybe I'll do better this time.
Start->Programs->Accessories->Accessibility->On-Screen Keyboard
Seriously, as an Indian - this is not Orwellian as it might appear. Just a case of some bureaucratic nut who just discovered key loggers coming up with these impractical ideas.
"Never, never blame anything on a conspiracy that can be explained by incompetence."