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NSF-Funded "Dark Web" to Battle Terrorists

BuzzSkyline writes "The National Science Foundation has announced a new University of Arizona project, which they call the Dark Web, intended to monitor all terrorist activity on the Internet. The project relies on 'advanced techniques such as Web spidering, link analysis, content analysis, authorship analysis, sentiment analysis and multimedia analysis [to] find, catalog and analyze extremist activities online.' The coolest part of the project is a tool called Writeprint, which 'automatically extracts thousands of multilingual, structural, and semantic features to determine who is creating "anonymous" content' with an accuracy of 95%, according to the release."

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  1. 5% by king-manic · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The coolest part of the project is a tool called Writeprint, which 'automatically extracts thousands of multilingual, structural, and semantic features to determine who is creating "anonymous" content' with an accuracy of 95%, according to the release."

    So when they get it wrong, and the police storm my front door instead of my neighbors, will it still be "cool"?

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    1. Re:5% by Jarjarthejedi · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'm more curious how they're going to get 95% accuracy on who the person is without a large number of samples of non-anonymous writings from them. It seems obvious that they're really claiming that, with a large number of writing samples from the writer, they can get 95% accuracy. If they're actually claiming to be able to determine who anonymous people are without any non-anonymous writing by them then that's a system I have to see...

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    2. Re:5% by mcpkaaos · · Score: 3, Funny

      I'm sure your neighbor will think so.

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    3. Re:5% by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      More likely it'll be along the lines of "These anon posts seem to be from the same person, and we should make more attempt to trace several of them to their source, rather than wasting our efforts on those over there..."

    4. Re:5% by alexhs · · Score: 4, Funny

      Of course, when you register to DarkWeb, you give your identity. Obviously, 5% of registered people didn't enter their real identity.
      Now, the biggest problem is to get terrorists to register to and use that DarkWeb thingy. But with such a kewl name and a good advertising campaign, it shouldn't be too hard.

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    5. Re:5% by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      I call the FBI about all of my neighbors, just in case. I recommend you do the same.

      It's better to be safe than sorry; why, just the other day, I saw some guy walking suspiciously down the street. I'm not one to overreact, but this guy was just suspicious if you know what I mean. He looked like he came from the Middle East, had shifty eyes, the full shebang.

      So I'm walking along and I see this guy. I almost kept going, minding my own business, but I thought about the danger this proud nation is in and I thought to myself, "If I don't do something, who will?"

      And thank god I did.

      I called 911 (blessed may that number always be in our hearts) and reported the likely perpetrator. I tailed him from a distance for a while, and my if he wasn't surprised when that officer pulled over next to him! You should have seen the look in his eyes, caught in the act!

      So, long story short, turns out the police couldn't arrest him for anything (or he got off on some technicality, probably). I know one thing: he'll be more careful next time he decides to pull something. You've got me to thank for that.

    6. Re:5% by colmore · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The worst thing is that for a search like this, 95% accuracy is TERRIBLE.

      Let's say in 1,000,000 posters there are 20 secret terrorists. This system (assuming the 95% figure isn't just made up, and since it's a reliability figure coming from a government contractor - it is) will label 19 of the real terrorists as terrorists and *50,000* innocent internet users as terrorists. Since we already live in a world where being under government suspicion (but no charges) gets your assets frozen, phones tapped, and puts you on the no-fly list this is a BIG problem.

      I go to a fairly international university. I've seen this 1984 B.S. shit on innocent people's jobs and educations first hand. As long as our elected representatives keep granting themselves and their officers these kinds of powers, we do not have the right to call ourselves the "land of the free."

      Right now the US has in place a set of laws that would allow for an authoritarian (not-quite totalitarian, though if the press keeps dismantling itself, who knows) government. All it would take is the decision to enforce them to the letter; no consent from the voters would be needed.

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    7. Re:5% by autocracy · · Score: 4, Funny

      Oh, awesome... thanks for making sure he'll be more careful at his nefarious deeds. You've done us all proud there, Scooter.

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    8. Re:5% by Reziac · · Score: 3, Funny

      Place and time: somewhere in the Soviet Union in the 1930s. The phone rings at KGB headquarters.

                "Hello?"

                "My neighbor Ivan Asimov is an enemy of the State. He is hiding undeclared diamonds in his woodshed."

                "This will be noted."

                The next day, the KGB goons go over to Asimov's house. They search the shed where the firewood is
                kept, break every piece of wood, find no diamonds, swear at Asimov, and leave.

                The phone rings at Asimov's house.

                "Hello, Ivan! Did the KGB come?"

                "Yes."

                "Did they chop your firewood?"

                "Yes, they did."

                "Okay, now it's your turn to call. I need my vegetable patch plowed."

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  2. This could have been used... by halivar · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...to out Dan Lyons as "Fake Steve."

    Other than that, I'm afraid this is the sort of technology that's only "cool" when it isn't being used on you.

  3. Not to be confused with Darknet by JamJam · · Score: 4, Informative

    Not to be confused with Darknet http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darknet which is what I immediately thought from this article title.

  4. Attention NSF by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Attention, NSF: Here's a better, cheaper solution - point all those @#$@#$%ing existing VIAGRA and mortgage spambots out there at these forums you're monitoring.

    Either the terra'rists give up after the spamming, or they kill the spammers. Either way, we win.

  5. F or A? by Slightly+Askew · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Change NSF to NSA, and the summary would make just as much sense...except "terrorist" would be defined as whatever the current politicians in power decide it to mean.

    Space race, nuclear power, this kind of technology. Just goes to show, if you have a good idea, find a way to use it to further the war machine and political agendas and prepare to get buried in money. Can someone please figure out a way to weaponize a cure for cancer?

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    1. Re:F or A? by ScentCone · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Can someone please figure out a way to weaponize a cure for cancer?

      You mean kind of like how there are now lots more skilled laser eye surgeons in the private sector competing to give you better prices for your business because once the military decided to back providing that service to its pilots, there was a giant leap in people being trained to do the work during their rotations?

      As far as cancer: the military provides all kinds of basic medical research from which we all benefit. You'll see considerable military spending in epidemialogical studies, trauma treatment, etc. To the extent that, say, The Marine Corp is a weapon, the huge studies that can be conducted on the systematically collected health stats, DNA, etc., on a huge number of generally healthy people over several generations IS a part of all sorts of cancer (and other) studies.

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  6. It's not even that difficult. by khasim · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Every TCP/IP packet has a source address and a destination address.

    So all that the government would need would be the addresses of the web sites (no matter where they are located) and taps on the pipelines. You can either try to catch the stuff going OUT of your country or going INTO their country (if you can't just tap the line of that website).

    That will tell you who, in your country, is going there.

    As long as it isn't using encryption, you'll even get what is being read/posted.

    If it is using encryption, you still should have the location of the guy reading/posting. Or you can try cracking the encryption.

    Once you have the location of the guy, you get a warrant and put a keylogger on his box or whatever.

    There's no need for all of this crap about "darkweb". Google can already tell you what is posted on what websites. If these guys are smart enough to beat the basics, they're smart enough to know NOT to use the Internet for point-to-point communications.

  7. Computationally expensive beyond practicality by sdaemon · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Sure you can crawl any information source and extrapolate anything you want out of it. I'd even be willing to believe the 95% accurate analysis, whatever. That's besides the point.

    You can only extrapolate data you've read properly. The simplest of encryption and/or obfuscation schemes applied to this content would effectively protect against extrapolation. Sure, Big Brother can have software scrub the Net looking for suspicious content. But can they have software scrub the Net while applying decryption measures to everything found? While analyzing every image file for obfuscated content (or even something as simple as writing your terrorist plans on a piece of paper and scanning it in as an image)? While applying rot13 to every block of text found?

    I would say no. The problem becomes computationally impossible at that point. There are theoretically infinite ways to hide, encrypt, or obfuscate data. To have a system check first for unhidden, unencrypted, un-obfuscated data, then also for each of those, is simply not doable unless one makes radical limitations to the format of the data itself.

    I would say instead that this "Dark Web" will be invaluable in identifying characteristics of perfectly law-abiding forum posters, slashdotters, and so forth, and that the data gleaned will fetch a good price from directed marketeers, pharmaceutical companies, spammers, government bureaucracies, and other servants of the Dark Lord.

  8. About 20% of "colonists" opposed our Independence. by khasim · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Back around 1776 there were a large number (about 20% of our population) of "Loyalists" who opposed our Independence.

    If you had polled England at the time, and those Loyalists, you'd understand that the "terrorists" had control of the "colonies".

    If England had won, every one of those "terrorists" who had signed their little "Declaration" would have been hanged. And their would have been rejoicing in the streets of the colonies.

  9. Heck, their job should be simple! by Fantastic+Lad · · Score: 3, Interesting
    They don't need expensive Dark Web nonsense.

    They just need to pull up their own employee roster to see who's largely responsible for world terrorism.

    Of course, the young recruits are probably still too busy puffing their chests smartly while humming the "Alias" theme music while quietly wishing that the NSA was the one which received the big Hollywood PR/propaganda effort to notice such sticky details as who was responsible for what. But what are a few sticky details? M's and W's all look the same.


    -FL

  10. Re:About 20% of "colonists" opposed our Independen by veganboyjosh · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...And the locals would have welcomed the British with open arms...