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Photonic Laser Thruster Promises Earth to Mars in a Week

serutan writes "Using lasers to drive spaceships has been a subject of interest for many years, but making a photonic engine powerful enough for practical use has been elusive. Dr. Young Bae, a California physicist, has built a demonstration photonic laser thruster that produces enough thrust to micro-maneuver a satellite. This would be useful in high-precision formation flying, such as using a fleet of satellites to form a space telescope with a large virtual aperture. Scaled up, a similar engine could speed a spacecraft to Mars in less than a week."

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  1. You can't go home again by Harmonious+Botch · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...we fried it duing liftoff.

  2. Re:How "scaled up" is this? by Mothinator · · Score: 5, Funny

    It only says it can get the spacecraft to Mars in a week. It does claim to be able to stop once it gets there.

  3. Re:How "scaled up" is this? by Dachannien · · Score: 5, Funny

    Actually, it says that it can get the spacecraft to Mars in a week and can stop once it gets there. But it doesn't claim that anyone will survive the impact.

  4. Re:acceleration? by scoot80 · · Score: 5, Funny

    They didn't say you would get there alive. They just said you would get there in a week.

  5. Lasers are better with Photons... by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 4, Funny
    Photonic Laser Thruster

    Muuuuch better than using those LASERS without Photons.

    [I hear that adding the photons also makes them lighter...]

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  6. Re:All a matter of scale... by iamhassi · · Score: 4, Funny

    "we'll have to see what else gets bigger with scale, other than just the thrust."

    That's what she said ;)

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  7. Re:How "scaled up" is this? by azenpunk · · Score: 5, Funny

    nasa knows how to stop things at mars, that's easy. (think: "feet, meters, same difference")

  8. Scaling up is fun by suv4x4 · · Score: 4, Funny

    I wonder why we don't just scale up a bridge right to Mars and drive to there with a drag racer car. If the latter is too slow, I suppose no problem, we can scale it up as necessary.

  9. Re:acceleration? by Hucko · · Score: 5, Funny

    Do you currently find 1G uncomfortable?

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  10. Re:How "scaled up" is this? by MrNaz · · Score: 5, Funny

    Survival isn't necessary. Just get your ass to Mars. G-G-Get your ass to Mars.

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  11. With all due respect to James Doohan... by Spasmodeus · · Score: 5, Funny

    Scaled up, a similar engine could speed a spacecraft to Mars in less than a week. Aye. And if my grandmother had wheels, she'd be a wagon.
  12. Re:acceleration? by E++99 · · Score: 5, Funny

    His demonstration thruster produces 35 micronewtons.

    35 micronewtons / .0005467722 Km/s^2 = 64 milligrams, so if we were using this to power a marscraft with the mass of the acetominophen contained in a single extra strength tylenol tablet, it would be more than 10x too heavy. Of course they said it could be scaled up, but that's a heckuvalot of scaling.

    I doubt the smallesst possible manned Mars vehicle could be less than 1,000kg. That's a scaling factor of 15.6 million. I can jump over 3 feet on the trampoline in my back yard, which translates to a maximum velocity of 4.23 m/s. If I scale that up by 15.6 million, I would be launching myself at 66,000,000 m/s, far exceeding escape velocity, and reaching Mars under my own power in under 30 minutes.

  13. Re:How "scaled up" is this? by Smight · · Score: 5, Funny

    You must have forgotten that nuclear power, by definition, harms the environment.
    That's just how it works.
    There's no environment to harm in space so nuclear power can't possibly work out there.

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  14. Re:IMPULSE DRIVE by jcr · · Score: 5, Funny

    voila! sublight speed!

    Big deal. I have sublight speed sitting at my desk.

    -jcr

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  15. Re:acceleration? by TheRaven64 · · Score: 5, Funny
    Interesting moderation. You're currently at +5 insightful, for two statements:
    • That the grandparent post was funny.
    • That you are an idiot.
    Both of these could reasonably considered informative, however the second is likely untrue, since in my experience idiots are quite likely to be the last to realise, and the moderation totals on the grandparent would have informed even the most humour deficient. Or are moderators now giving karma to people who admit their errors? If so, have I accidentally logged into some kind of bizarro-Slashdot, where everyone is polite and respectful? And is there a way of making sure I don't accidentally end up on the other one again?
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  16. Re:acceleration? by Hal_Porter · · Score: 5, Funny

    But what about the heat? It's quite difficult to cool off lump of metal in a vacuum without discarding hot material to do so. Even if you could feasibly power a craft to Mars with this, how would you stop yourself from arriving as Astronaut McNuggets?

    Our chief scientist, Davros McDonald, has calculated the ultimate evolutionary form of the human race to be McNuggets. Why do you struggle against progress?

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  17. Re:acceleration? by aliquis · · Score: 4, Funny

    But then the living quarters would never leave earth orbit would they? ;D

  18. Re:acceleration? by SunTzuWarmaster · · Score: 5, Funny

    The current space shuttle seems to deal with the heat from explosives fairly well in the atmosphere and in space. They use a model called "let's not put it next to the astronaut's faces".

  19. Re:acceleration? by tehcyder · · Score: 4, Funny

    If you don't mind going through the Sun, that 1/2 G will get you Earth to Jupiter, in the worst geometry possible, in seven days and one hour and thirty minutes.
    I'm not a rocket scientist, but isn't that kind of a deal-breaker?
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  20. Re:acceleration? by tkw954 · · Score: 4, Funny

    If you don't mind going through the Sun, that 1/2 G will get you Earth to Jupiter, in the worst geometry possible, in seven days and one hour and thirty minutes.

    I'm not a rocket scientist, but isn't that kind of a deal-breaker?

    Not if you go at night.