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SCO Files for Chapter 11 Bankruptcy

Can you say "the SCO, the" in German? writes "Trading of SCO's stock has been halted on news that SCO has filed for Chapter 11 Bankruptcy. This move just so happens to fall on the eve of SCO's trial with Novell. One would think that their prior boasts were mostly bluster, that they believe they have almost no chance of prevailing at trial, and that they're now desperate to protect their executives from SCO's creditors while seeking yet another delay. From the release: 'The SCO Group intends to maintain all normal business operations throughout the bankruptcy proceedings. Subject to court approval, SCO and its subsidiaries will use the cash flow from their consolidated operations to meet their capital needs during the reorganization process. "We want to assure our customers and partners that they can continue to rely on SCO products, support and services for their business critical operations," said Darl McBride, President and CEO, The SCO Group. "Chapter 11 reorganization provides the Company with an opportunity to protect its assets during this time while focusing on building our future plans."'"

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  1. Sad, sad news by eln · · Score: 5, Funny

    I know I'm going to be crying myself to sleep tonight.

    1. Re:Sad, sad news by snowgirl · · Score: 5, Funny

      YAY! Party at my place everyone! Champange for all! :)

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    2. Re:Sad, sad news by Romancer · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You will be when they have no real consequences from this whole sordid episode. When they are back at it again spweing out the FUD and dragging people through court having learned no lessons since the system is pretty much in their favor. They can drag this out another ten years and still come out with capital and the exectuives will never have to pay the people they are hurting by doing all this.

      Rant/

      Just look at all they have learned by going through the courts with no evidence and being laughed at by the people who review the case and get the facts instead of reading their press releases. They are literally filing for bankruptcy and assuring their customers that they are fine and can rely on them at the same time... AT THE SAME TIME! No reasonable company would be so immune to shame, so ignorant of the mocking thats going on right in front of them, and still be able to tell people that everythings OK. That these bottomdwellers are still making a living, still giving themselves bonuses and trying to protect their stock is a slap in the face for american justice. This is another Enron, this is another corporation exec scandle happening right now, at this very moment. They are telling us that they don't care that they are wrong and have taken the courts time and our money and threatened people, intimidated customers, extorted from innocent and ignorant law abiding citicens and companies who only wanted to avoid doing the wrong thing and pay whatever license fees to whoever owned the code they were using. They have either planned this and acted accordingly to draw it out, or they employ the most ignorant legal councel out there to advise them. No proof, no problem, No evidence, no problem, No case, no problem. Lets all make a bunch of money! Dirty rat bastards. And we will as a nation let another one get away with it. The people who made these decisions will walk away with millions. We'll complain and let them walk. Accomplices to the raping of this country. /Rant

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    3. Re:Sad, sad news by TubeSteak · · Score: 5, Informative

      They are literally filing for bankruptcy and assuring their customers that they are fine and can rely on them at the same time... AT THE SAME TIME! Ummm... maybe you don't understand what Chapter 11 bankruptcy proceedings are. It's a reorganization of the company, not a dissolution.

      That isn't to say that SCO is safe, but news that they're filing for bankruptcy doesn't really mean anything.

      You want an example of companies that go bankrupt while maintaining operations?
      See: US Airline Industry
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  2. Get out the violin by ackthpt · · Score: 5, Funny

    And tell the fat lady to start warming up.

    It's been a long time coming, but still they had to know this day would arrive. If shareholders weren't really in it for the crapshoot of beating IBM and Novell for $Billion$ they'd have a case against Darl and his lot for running the business into the ground pursuing frivolous lawsuits.

    SCO's income from normal opperations must be down to a trickle with Linux and Windows Server vying for most of the market.

    Emerge from Chapter 11? I can't see how, unless somehow there was a reversal of court decisions and they're doing nothing to grow their product market.

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    1. Re:Get out the violin by trolltalk.com · · Score: 5, Insightful

      "SCO is doing this to make Novell into a creditor with respect to the money SCO owes to Novell."

      Won't work. Novell's claim isn't as a creditor. Their claim is "equitable", meaning that SCO is holding theor property ($$$), not that SCO owes them money. When you go bankrupt, anyone who can show that they own property you're holding on to can claim it from the trustee.

      This happens a lot with vending machines, for example, when a plant goes bust. The owner proves that the machine is theirs (not leased or anything - it really is theirs), and they then get to pick it up.

      Since Novell already has a judgment saying that SCO is guilty of conversion, and the question is "how much", they have a prior claim to the property (money) in question. SCO is dead.

  3. Oh man... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Where's my tiny violin?

  4. It's Been Fun by eldavojohn · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Wait ... no it hasn't.

    For those of you who bought SCOX stock in hopes that they would win this case, you had better sell it. In the past 20 minutes, it has dropped from $0.66 to $0.37 cents (and still is dropping).

    We want to assure our customers and partners that they can continue to rely on SCO products, support and services for their business critical operations. Would you care to list those products, support & services?

    According to your market data your net income was a $16.6 million loss. And when your total revenue was under $30 million, you really shouldn't even try to keep operating. Why is this Chapter 11? I guess it's going to come down to one unkillable lawyer with SCO tattooed on his chest. At that point, we'll have to call an exorcist.
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    1. Re:It's Been Fun by MBGMorden · · Score: 5, Funny

      Damn. I read the post and figured I could by out the company tommorow for $15-20. Not that I want it but wouldn't it ROCK to give someone SCO as a gag gift for Christmas?

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  5. DFWT by sayfawa · · Score: 5, Funny

    Don't Fuck With Tux

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  6. Re:FSCK YEAH! by QRDeNameland · · Score: 5, Funny

    This is the internet...you can say "FUCK" here. In fact, when discussing SCO, I believe it's mandatory.

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  7. Re:Stock plummetage by jenkin+sear · · Score: 5, Informative

    Actually, it plummeted as the insiders and people with inside knowledge traded out- trading is halted as soon as chapter 11 is filed. It might be interesting to see who actually sold today in the minutes prior to the announcement. The SEC has been known to take a close look at that in the past.

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  8. Re:Dear Darl, by IP_Troll · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't want to rain on anyone's parade, but this is not good. Bankruptcy is like a protective cocoon that keeps businesses with cash problems safe from creditors. It is a way for SCO to stall further.

    Bankruptcy prevents an entity's creditors from forcing liquidation of the entity's assets. If Novell won it's case against SCO, Novell could enforce it's judgment against SCO and force SCO to dissolve. If SCO was dissolved the case against IBM would disappear. Now that SCO has filed for bankruptcy it is protected from its creditors. Therefore Novell cannot get the licensing fees SCO owes it, and SCO can continue to exist.

    Filing for bankruptcy is not SCO tossing in the towel, it is more like SCO knows it is going to lose, and is now trying to bite off Novell's ear to get Disqualified instead of Knocked Out.

  9. Does anybody find it odd... by br1an.warner · · Score: 5, Interesting

    That in their press release, they say "SCO owns the core UNIX operating system..." ? Maybe they missed what happened in August? Link to the article on Groklaw

  10. Buh-BYE! by patmandu · · Score: 5, Funny

    And in unrelated news, SCO has filed to trademark any portrayal of water swirling around in a toilet bowl, as that is their new corporate logo.

  11. Re:Yay... by abb3w · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Do you think we should drive a stake through his heart just in case?" — Peter Lorre to Vincent Price at Bela Lugosi's funeral

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  12. Re:w00t!!!! by Slicebo · · Score: 5, Informative

    The "red dress" reference pertains to a comment that Groklaw's PJ made a long time ago, saying she was looking forward to putting on her red dress and partying when SCO loses their case in court.

    I'm afraid a "black dress" for wearing to the upcoming SCO funeral will be more useful now.

  13. Re:Dear Darl, by Desert+Raven · · Score: 5, Informative

    The problem with this theory is that Novell is not a creditor.

    The court ruled that the money *belongs* to Novell. That's a far different legal issue than SCO owing money to Novell.

    It's like a burglar trying to claim bankruptcy in order to keep the stuff he stole. Since the stuff isn't actually his (and in this case has been declared so in a court of law), bankruptcy doesn't protect it.

  14. Re:"the SCO, the" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    But since Bart is male, shouldn't it be "der Bart, der"?

    Unless he's talking about several Barts, but then you'd have to conjugate the noun as well and it'd become something like "die Barten, die". Or "die Bärte, die"?

    Actually Bärte means "beards" in German, with the singular "Bart" which is masculine. So my best guess is that the tattoo was a badly written German version of "the beards, the".

    So what's Sideshow Bob's interest in beards anyway? As possibilities we have Jasper Beardly, the Sea Captain, but most interestingly, Krusty's father: Rabbi Hyman Krustofski.

    My guess is that Sideshow Bob is either a latent Nazi with a hatred for Hyman, or he is one of these wusses who cannot grow a decent beard and is taking it out on Krusty.

    An alternate theory is that I have too much time on my hands.

  15. Re:Dear Darl, by shaitand · · Score: 5, Insightful

    'If SCO was dissolved the case against IBM would disappear.'

    That would be a bad thing, we don't want the IBM case to disappear, we want IBM have a very strong favorable ruling. Any other outcome means this was all a waste of time with no precedents set.

  16. Looking backwards by DVega · · Score: 5, Funny
    Let's what they said ...

    Forbes - What SCO Wants, SCO Gets
    By Daniel Lyons, 06.18.03, 12:00 PM ET

    [ ... ]

    In other words, like many religious folk, the Linux-loving crunchies in the open-source movement are a) convinced of their own righteousness, and b) sure the whole world, including judges, will agree.

    They should wake up. SCO may not be very good at making a profit by selling software. But it is very good at getting what it wants from other companies. And it has a tight circle of friends.

    [ ... ]

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  17. Bad Faith by maz2331 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Cross-post from Groklaw... I did a quick Google of "bad faith" in regards to bankruptcy filings, and there is apparently precident regarding exactly the same situation as SCO is in. Using bankruptcy just as a tool to thwart other litigation is apparently a BIG no-no. From a non-authoritative source: http://touchngo.com/lglcntr/usdc/bnkrptcy/briefs/bnk45.htm "One area ripe for a bad faith dismissal is when the debtor is using a bankruptcy filing as a litigation tactic to either forestall litigation or seek a forum perceived to be more friendly. In Marsch, the court upheld a 'bad faith' dismissal where the chapter 11 petition was filed solely to delay collection of a judgment and avoid posting an appeal bond where the debtor had the financial means to pay the judgment." Also, in addition to dismissing the bankruptcy case, the bankruptcy courts may well impose the "nuclear" sanction - barring SCO from asserting another bankruptcy claim in the future. This would leave them totally exposed to the full wieght of any other judgements, with no way out at all - not even Chapter 7 liquidation. In other words... "you're on your own, Darl..." Is anyone with any expertise in bankruptcy proceedings around to help the community figure out exactly how this works? Something tells me the bankruptcy filing is not going to fly for long, but may expose SCO's legal team to some serious malpractice liability. And... maybe after this little road bump is resolved we'll finally see Kimball bring some real sacnctions down on the SCO side too. This is just getting beyond ridiculous.