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Daniel Lyons of Forbes Admits Being Snowed by SCO

certain death writes "Daniel Lyons of Forbes Magazine has admitted to being snowed by SCO, regarding their lawsuit over Linux and SCO code. He specifically mentions Groklaw's role in the case, and regrets his early articles giving the company the benefit of the doubt. 'I still thought it would be foolish to predict how this lawsuit (or any lawsuit) would play out. I even wrote an article called "Revenge of the Nerds," which poked fun at the pack of amateur sleuths who were following the case on a Web site called Groklaw and who claimed to know for sure that SCO was going to lose. Turns out those amateur sleuths were right. Now some of them are writing to me asking how I'd like my crow cooked, and where I'd like it delivered. Others in that highly partisan crowd have suggested that I wanted SCO to win, and even that I was paid off by SCO or Microsoft. Of course that's not true. I've told these folks it's not true. Hasn't stopped them. The truth, as is often the case, is far less exciting than the conspiracy theorists would like to believe. It is simply this: I got it wrong. The nerds got it right.'"

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  1. I, for one... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...welcome our new amateur sleuth overlords!

  2. Next Up... by corby · · Score: 2, Funny

    Apology accepted, Daniel.

    Laura DiDio, it's your turn.

  3. Re:He's only... by hey! · · Score: 4, Funny

    He's only a journo who got it wrong.
    *gloat*

    I wonder about the investors who will now lose pretty well everything they banked on the crapshoot.
    *gloat*gloat*

    Then there's also the poor employees who will undoubtably suffer as they seek employment elsewhere
    *glo.... Aw crud.
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  4. Re:Thank you, Daniel by Achoi77 · · Score: 3, Funny

    looks like your 5 digit UID says you do :-)

  5. Re:Thank you, Daniel by MightyMartian · · Score: 5, Funny

    As I said in another post, reporters don't have to be maritime engineers to report on ships sinking. This reporter works for Forbes, so I wouldn't expect him to know anything about the history of Unix. However, when the note crosses his desk talking about SCOX suing IBM over allegations that SCO's copyrighted Unix code leaking into Linux via AIX, he should do his utmost to learn about these things called Unix, Linux and AIX. That's his job. The fact was that he, like a lot of the Wall Street crowd, don't like open source, and so, rather than being a reporter, he became nothing more than a shill. If he was too stupid to even bother getting paid by SCO, then I'd say that's even more points against him, because if you're going to be a biased prick, then at least be a corrupt biased prick.

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  6. As God is my witness... by HaeMaker · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...I thought this turkey could fly.

  7. No, it's not. by FatSean · · Score: 5, Funny

    If I've learned anything from recent Presidential elections, changing your opinions due to new information is a sign of weakness. One must make a choice and ride it all the way down.

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  8. As usual... by Tyr_7BE · · Score: 2, Funny

    I got it wrong. The nerds got it right.

    So...business as usual?

  9. About this NERD label... by visualight · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...and labels in general.

    Calling someone a "nerd" because he knows *nix.
    Calling someone a "gearhead" because he knows how replace a clutch.
    Calling someone a "health nut" because he goes jogging and takes a multivitamin.

    All of these labels have something in common, they describe a single aspect of someones life (something you "do") and a judgment is made of that person as a whole. It's stupid and tiresome. Let's start making labels for people based on what they *DON'T* do.

    For example, when someone puts zero effort into staying healthy and strong he's an "idiot".
    Someone who depends on an automobile to live but cannot change his own brakes is an "idiot".
    Someone who spends years of his life in front of computers, depends on them, and yet cannot make some time to learn what's happening behind the wizards, is an "idiot".

    Anyway, not to respond to the parent specifically since I don't really know his perspective, but in general, I'm tired of people being too lazy to learn anything and deriding actual human beings that strive to understand their own environment and the tools needed to interact with that environment.

    Once when I was a young deckhand on a tug boat the skipper told me to go down in the galley and cook a meal. I said, "I don't know how to cook though," and he said "Bullshit, how can you be a man and not fucking know how to cook food?". He was right about that, and I'm right when I say "How the fuck can you spend all day sending and receiving emails and yet not know how to configure an imap client?"

    Etc.

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  10. Re:I think you mean "whore". by TigerPlish · · Score: 2, Funny

    Being a "professional" also means that you follow the ethical standards of your profession. Otherwise your behaviour is "unprofessional".

    The word you're thinking of is "whore" or "prostitute". One who sells one's abilities, talent, or name for an unworthy purpose.


    Puta mierda, that makes my entire IT dept a Band of Whores. Would Getting a Paycheck be considered a Worthy? 'cause that's the only positive i can think of, when I think of what we do..

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  11. Re:I think you mean "whore". by xero314 · · Score: 4, Funny

    The word you're thinking of is "whore" or "prostitute". One who sells one's abilities, talent, or name for an unworthy purpose. You need to pick you Whores and Prostitutes better if you think it's and "unworthy purpose."
  12. Re:Thank you, Daniel by MightyMartian · · Score: 4, Funny

    What record straight? He maligned open source, basically called the developers of the Linux kernel a pack of thieves, mocked (and is still mocking) the people who did his job for him and dug up the evidence. I mean, if a fucking paralegal can bloody well go through the archives and come up with some history, then surely a Forbes reporter can do it as well.

    Fuck him. He's not a journalist. He's a corporate whore with an anti-open source agenda who only fesses up after SCO is laying in ruins. He can take his apology and shove it up his ass, where, I'm assuming, he's recently removed Daryl McBride's manly member.

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  13. Re:Thank you, Daniel by complete+loony · · Score: 4, Funny

    I got it wrong. The nerds got it right. Translation:

    And I would have gotten away with it too, if it wasn't for you meddling kids.
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  14. Re:Thank you, Daniel by Forge · · Score: 4, Funny

    Well my 4 Digit UID says he doesn't.

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  15. Re:What about the attitude? by Workaphobia · · Score: 2, Funny

    > "This is kind of like saying that if the NY Giants are playing a football game against the Podunk County Pee Wee League's Hometown Hornets that we should say that the game should be over in the first 10 seconds."

    Against the Giants? I dunno, they might be able to take 'em.

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  16. Re:I think you mean "whore". by pallmall1 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Puta mierda, that makes my entire IT dept a Band of Whores. Would Getting a Paycheck be considered a Worthy?
    Well, if the check were big enough, nobody could call you cheap whores.
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  17. Re:Thank you, Daniel by cduffy · · Score: 5, Funny

    Sure you want to get into that battle?

  18. Re:Thank you, Daniel by graffix_jones · · Score: 3, Funny

    It's like finding an argument that concludes "Therefore, Bananas can fly." -- We don't need to know anything about the argument to know that it isn't sound.


    I thought all fruit flies like a banana?
  19. Re:Thank you, Daniel by Captain+Nitpick · · Score: 4, Funny

    Do you extra-low UID guys have some sort of mailing list that tells you that these threads are happening? It seems like every time one starts, one of you 3-digit people comes in to trump everyone else.

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  20. Re:Thank you, Daniel by The+One+and+Only · · Score: 1, Funny

    Let Mr. Lyons alone.

    All you people care about is readers and making money off of him! Leave him alone! He hasn't written a column for years! HE'S A HUMAN!!! You're lucky he even WRITES for you BASTARDS!

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  21. He has a point by tmk · · Score: 2, Funny

    Have you ever heard the slogan News for nerds - stuff that matters? If he is speaking of the slashdot crowd, "nerd" is not an insult.

  22. Re:Thank you, Daniel by hansraj · · Score: 3, Funny

    I have seen people using comma or parentheses excessively, including myself, but you beat them all with your generous (and improper) usage of full stop.

  23. Re:Thank you, Daniel by CmdrTaco · · Score: 5, Funny

    Pwnz3d.

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  24. Re:Thank you, Daniel by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    you must be new here

  25. Re:Thank you, Daniel by fataugie · · Score: 2, Funny

    I thought I was wrong once, but I was mistaken.

    Why am I responding to an AC?

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