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Heinlein Archives Put Online

RaymondRuptime writes "Good news for fans of the late SF master Robert Heinlein, 2 months after his 100th birthday celebration. Per the San Jose Mercury News, 'The entire contents of the Robert A. and Virginia Heinlein Archive — housed in the UC-Santa Cruz Library's Special Collections since 1968 — have been scanned in an effort to preserve the contents digitally while making the collection easily available to both academics and the general public... The first collection released includes 106,000 pages, consisting of Heinlein's complete manuscripts — including files of all his published works, notes, research, early drafts and edits of manuscripts.' You can skip the brief article and go straight to the archives."

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  1. A practice that could save us from rereleases. by CRCulver · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I wish more writers' archives would just be put online, so we can just simply see what they left out or what work was unfinished at the time of passing without a plethora of new material for purchase. For those of us who loved Stranger in a Strange Land as it was, the release of the uncut version turned something nice into something overlong. And don't get me started on the Dune sequels, where the notes of Frank Herbert, instead of just being shown as they were, were turned into dreck by his son and an airport paperback writer.

  2. TANSTAAFL by Vinegar+Joe · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As usual.

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    1. Re:TANSTAAFL by jtroutman · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Here's a list of "Science fiction (stuff that can't happen)"
      • Deep ocean submersibles
      • Satellites
      • Rockets
      • Robots
      • Portable computers
      • Virtual reality
      • Surveillance systems
      • Genetic alteration and modification
      • Holographic cloaking
      • Video Communication

      The fact is, most of the wonders of modern science were predicted in the writings of people like Asimov, Heinlein, Bradbury, Wells, and Clarke.

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  3. This links to a *STORE*, people... by pla · · Score: 5, Informative

    You can skip the brief article and go straight to the archives.

    ...Where you can add any of Heinlin's works to your cart, for a low, low price. They take Visa, Mastercard, AmEx, and Discover.

    Hey, if I link to the "complete" works of another great author on Amazon, can I make FP too? Or does it have to belong to some "special" collection selling out?

    1. Re:This links to a *STORE*, people... by derrickh · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Why does it have to be free? If you want to read Stanger in a Strange Land for free, whats stopping you from going to the library? If the $21 price tag on the Starship Troopers opus is too much, then head over to Amazon and get the novel for $5.
      This whole 'everything should be free' movement is weird.

      D

    2. Re:This links to a *STORE*, people... by badfish99 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The whole paying money to a dead author thing is even weirder.

    3. Re:This links to a *STORE*, people... by pedestrian+crossing · · Score: 4, Insightful

      dead authors may have live heirs who need the money

      Such weak BS.

      If an artist wants to take care of their heirs, they need to do like the rest of us and take care of their heirs with the money they earn while they are still alive.

      Untimely accident? TFB, death sucks for all of us.

      I just don't see what gives artists the right to continue to profit from their works after they die. No one else has that "right".

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  4. Increase the income... by Rick+Richardson · · Score: 4, Informative

    Though the Archives is provided online for research and academic purposes, The Heinlein Prize Trust, Robert and Virginia Heinlein's estate, who made the online Archives possible is not a non-profit organization. Just as Heinlein always said he wrote for money (something you'll find is true if you read through his correspondence), the Trustees have a responsibility to not only maintain, but increase the income of the Heinleins' estate. This benefits us all as the mission of the Heinlein Prize Trust is to not only preserve Heinlein's legacy through projects such as this online Archives, but to support and encourage the human (that's us) expansion into space through commercial endeavors. The first Heinlein Prize of $500,000 was awarded to Peter Diamandis for just such commercial space endeavors.

  5. I'm a fanboy but... by The+Mutant · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I fear this is for the hard core only.

    I was hoping to get downloadable versions of all his books that I read as a kid, especially some of the more obscure titles, and as I read them.

    Don't get me wrong - this is very cool, but we're not talking the finished product here, but all drafts leading up to the galley that was submitted to the publisher.

    So this would be very good to see how the plot, characters & books were developed. But you're not gonna curl up with one of these. I suspect they'll be dense reads.

    And expensive! The complete, seven parts of Starship Troopers will set you back $21!!

  6. Re:Umm??? I thought Heinlein... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    Wow, are you kidding me?

    Heinlein is one of the biggest, most influential names in science fiction. He won 4 Hugos, the very first Grand Master Award from the SFWA, and I'm sure a lot more awards that I don't know about. Fuck, at one time he was referred to as one of the "Big Three" names in sci fi (along with Asimov and Clarke).

    Read The Moon is a Harsh Mistress, Friday, Stranger in a Strange Land, and Citizen of the Galaxy. If you can't appreciate the genius that this man had after that, you're beyond hope.

  7. Re:For real? by arivanov · · Score: 4, Insightful

    He realised the "value" of such archives much more than other people.

    Just read the Lazarus rant in "Time Enough for Love" when he understands for the first time that his pearls of wisdom are being recorded.

    So I think he is more likely laughing than grumbling. After all he said (though Lazarus): "Beware of altruism. It is based on self-deception, the root of all evil."

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  8. Playboy.com makes mens magazine available online! by HaloZero · · Score: 4, Funny

    In other news, Playboy Magazine recently launched Playboy.com, which allows the worlds premier men's magazine to be made available online! You can skip the brief article, and go straight to the archives [NSFW].

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  9. Re:For real? by Mursk · · Score: 4, Informative
    I think you are referring to "the stinkeroos." From James Gifford's RAH FAQ:

    The so-called "stinkeroos" (Heinlein's own term for them) are three short stories, all dating from the first phase of his writing career, prior to World War II. With one exception, they have never been reprinted since their original pulp appearances. Heinlein refused reprint requests and never included them in any of his own collections, and his literary executors continue this policy. It is unlikely that any of them will ever be reprinted.

    The stinkeroos are:

    "Beyond Doubt" (Astonishing Stories, Apr 1941)

    "'My Object All Sublime'" (Future, Feb 1942)

    "Pied Piper" (Astonishing, Mar 1942)

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  10. Re:smokin something by Walt+Dismal · · Score: 4, Insightful
    I think the title originally was "I Will Fear No Editor" (okay, I joke) but it read like that, too. Not one of his greatest works. However his artery blockage problem was kicking in around then.

    I'll stick my two cents in here. Heinlein's juveniles and many other works (up until the period when the transition in quality coming from his cerebral artery problem deeply hurt his work) all celebrated the human condition, and the ability of man to rise to noble heights. They also were cracking good stories, too. Heinlein does not deserve the denigration coming these days from academic hacks and people unable to understand what he was really getting at. He wrote of man's responsibility to society, over and over again, and I find it offensive when some dimwitted, unimaginative 'publish or perish' academic arrogantly demeans him.

    In his time - a span of decades overlapping WWII - Heinlein was a giant and an inspiration to many engineers and scientists; any current critic dismissing him as a totalitarian Nazi is getting it completely wrong. His goal was to make money entertaining, true, but he aimed to inspire, he aimed at noble mores. He was not a literary cheat or a fraud and tried to give good value for the money. He was human and he made some mistakes in later years. But overall he saluted the best in man, championed the competent man in his stories. He was in favor of can-do, and held whiny slackers in disdain. If someone finds fault in that, the problem is with them, not him. His Starship Troopers was about genuine duty to man, unlike many of today's shallow military porn 'Sci-Fi" novels. (The movie adaptation was not his fault.) His Door Into Summer inspired me as a budding engineer. Today's lightweight bookstore rack-space fillers, by contrast, are shallow and disposable. I don't see many of them lighting the right sparks in growing minds like Heinlein did.

  11. Re:Who Robert Heinlein is... by arodland · · Score: 5, Funny

    Please turn in your /. account on the way out the door. Thank you.

  12. Re:For real? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Looks like they are in there:

    "Beyond Doubt" (Astonishing Stories, Apr 1941)
    http://www.heinleinarchives.net/upload/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=13

    "'My Object All Sublime'" (Future, Feb 1942)
    http://www.heinleinarchives.net/upload/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=8

    "Pied Piper" (Astonishing, Mar 1942)
    http://www.heinleinarchives.net/upload/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=9