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First New Dismissal Motion Against RIAA Complaint

NewYorkCountryLawyer writes "Several weeks ago it was discovered that a California federal judge, in rejecting an RIAA application for default judgment, had dismissed the RIAA's standard complaint for failure to state a claim, calling it "conclusory" "boilerplate" "speculation" in Interscope v. Rodriguez. In the wake of that decision a New York woman being sued in Brooklyn federal court, Rae J Schwartz, has told the Court that she is making a motion to dismiss the complaint in her case, Elektra v. Schwartz. This is the first post-Interscope challenge to the RIAA's boilerplate, of which we are aware. This is the same case in which the RIAA had sent a letter to the Judge falsely indicating that AOL had 'confirmed that defendant owned an internet access account through which copyrighted sound recordings were downloaded and distributed'. Ms. Schwartz suffers from Multiple Sclerosis, but the RIAA has pressed the case against her."

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  1. It doesn't matter when the defendant suffers from by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Ms. Schwartz suffers from Multiple Sclerosis

    So what? It doesn't pertain to the case at all. If I suffered from MS and I killed someone chances are I'm going to jail. The validity of the the RIAA claims against her aside, just because you have a disorder doesn't give you a free pass to do whatever you want.

  2. Irrelavence... by mdobossy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "Ms. Schwartz suffers from Multiple Sclerosis, but the RIAA has pressed the case against her."

    Does anyone else get tired of all the "Joe Schmoe is 72 years old, has a goiter and an infected big toenail, but the RIAA still presses on!" sensationalism?

    It seems as if every defendant in these cases has to be painted as a victim not only of the RIAA, but life itself. How about focusing on the fact that the RIAA has no proof, or legal grounds, and leave it at that!

    1. Re:Irrelavence... by NewYorkCountryLawyer · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "Ms. Schwartz suffers from Multiple Sclerosis, but the RIAA has pressed the case against her." Does anyone else get tired of all the "Joe Schmoe is 72 years old, has a goiter and an infected big toenail, but the RIAA still presses on!" sensationalism? It seems as if every defendant in these cases has to be painted as a victim not only of the RIAA, but life itself. How about focusing on the fact that the RIAA has no proof, or legal grounds, and leave it at that! I've got a better idea.

      How about focusing on both?

      Both the fact that they have no case, and the fact that they inflict their frivolous cases on the most helpless and most defenseless people in our society.
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    2. Re:Irrelavence... by bidule · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Stress accelerate the development of this disease. But of course insensitive clods like you don't care about quality of life.

      Yes, I am repeating myself, but good manners have to be hammered through thick skulls. And I know that these members of /. reactionary crowd are a lost cause but I don't care.

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  3. Good until the last line. by DaveV1.0 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The write up is good up until the last line. The respondent having MS says nothing about the case nor does having MS prevent her from using a computer or downloading music or provide immunity from civil prosecution.

    The fact that she has MS is irrelevant.

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  4. Re:It doesn't matter when the defendant suffers fr by Silver+Sloth · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's a variant on Missing White Woman Syndrome. The important point is that, in trying to explain to the general public that music downloaders are not evil criminals then using this case to point out that the RIAA also chase MS victims may help sway opinion. It's not logical but it's how it works.

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  5. Re:It doesn't matter when the defendant suffers fr by phoenixwade · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Ms. Schwartz suffers from Multiple Sclerosis
    So what? It doesn't pertain to the case at all. If I suffered from MS and I killed someone chances are I'm going to jail. The validity of the the RIAA claims against her aside, just because you have a disorder doesn't give you a free pass to do whatever you want. As to the Letter of the law, you are right. And the fact that one of the defendants was dead, or a grandmother, or a single mother of three is also meaningless as far as the law is concerned.

    However, considering the tactics and FUD the RIAA is using in the cases they've filed, and that the general public doesn't respond to what is legal, it responds to what the media feeds them, I have no problem with it being pointed out.

    Or, to put it another way, it makes no difference what Race a person is, when they are arrested for a crime, yet you will almost always have it pointed out. You can find similar examples involving religion, sex (Female Murder suspects are really big news in my area), or a host of other things that are not directly pertinent to the case itself. Commenting about these things increases the attention the case gets, and, although not directly relevant, it is a true comment.
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  6. Re:It doesn't matter when the defendant suffers fr by BoberFett · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If the RIAA can claim that pirates are helping terrorists in their press releases, why can't their victims play the pity card? Turnabout is fair play.

  7. Re:Read TFA by TheRaven64 · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Hi Ray. I have a lot of respect for you and the work you are doing, but I can't let this stand unchallenged:

    Had I chosen to emphasize her disease, as I might have, I don't see that there would have been anything wrong with that. And to those of you who think it's okay to bring nonsensical litigation like this against children, stroke victims, hurricane victims, MS sufferers, disabled people on welfare, and others.... to you I can only say that your value system is not unlike that of my opponents, who likewise see nothing wrong with what they are doing. You have two logical fallacies in the same argument there, but the worst one is your straw man. We are not saying it is 'okay to bring nonsensical litigation like this against children, stroke victims [etc].' We are saying that it is completely unacceptable to bring this kind of nonsensical litigation against anyone. We believe in a little thing known as 'equal protection under the law,' be it for MS sufferers, children, stroke victims, or cute white girls born with silver spoons in their mouths. By saying it is worse to bring a suit like this against an MS sufferer, we feel you are implicitly stating that it is not so bad to bring it against someone who is not an MS sufferer, and that is something we find objectionable.

    That said, when you go for the counter-suit for malicious prosecution, barratry, or whatever else you think will stick, I hope you will use the fact she has MS to add at least one more zero onto the end of the settlement.

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  8. Re:That's a good way to start the weekend! by nurb432 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    At least be honest with what is going on as you know as well as i, that 90% of the cases really are legit. Perhaps their techniques for gathering 'evidence' is questionable, but people really ARE downloading/sharing files that don't have permission to do so. These sorts of cases really are different then the 90%: 'woman never owned a PC', 'didn't have service during the time period' etc.

    Now, personally i don't have a problem with the downloading/sharing, but currently the law does. I also don't feel that it effects their profits ( other then a net increase due to people getting to listen to a lesser quality copy, 'hey, i want the real thing now' ) but i cant prove that with hard numbers.

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