Parrots and other birds are trained very poorly via Pavlovian conditioning. That isn't the only type of training, and Model-Rival training works much more effectively on birds (which isn't to say anything about how it works on other animals).
I agree - and, although Alex was trained with Model Rival techniques, I prefer operant conditioning with my Macaws and Greys because of speed, each of our guys seem to get the idea faster with a target and click. Considering that I seem to be able to teach the physical behaviors better than verbal ones, I have to admit that I'm missing part of the puzzle.
Alex was a special case. He had received decades of organized schooling from scientists, who I'd like to think make better teachers than birds.
You can be sure that the birds in this article are just mimicking sounds.
Alex was not a special case, excepting that he was the first to demonstrate that what we were wrong in what we thought the limits were. Dismissing Alex because he got years of education that other birds didn't get avoids the reality of what he represents. That education produces better results in communication and thinking skills isn't really all that surprising, in humans. What Alex demonstrated was that the abilities of non-humans can reach significantly higher levels than we ever thought was possible. Dr. Pepperburg is still working with Alexs flock mates, and produces similar results from them without the "decades" of training.
This is not unlike humans, there is certainly a variation in what each individual is ultimately capable of, but if you don't know that a human is capable of math, you don't try to teach them, once know that the bar is higher then you strive for it, and, like human education, as you understand how to communicate with the student more, you can educate them faster.
The systematic approach to teaching Parrots, particularly Greys, produces faster results, I'm sure, but that doesn't mean that the birds don't teach each other, they most assuredly do.
...but if you
want to buy a single drink, it's easier to say "a pint" or even "a
12-ounce cup" rather than "400 milliliters."
What's wrong with saying 4 deciliters?
Because people, as a whole, gravitate to simplicity. They want "a cup", "A pint" or some other simple group label when they do something repeatedly (like order a beer).. and if the simple thing doesn't exist, one will, inevitably evolve. and thus, the reference to "Folk" volumes appearing alongside the rigid measurements.
Google only blocks you Plus account. Mail and whatnot is still intact, unless you were spamming. Google has already commented on that. So how about reading up on the issue before panicking?
And reading slash dot is not a way to "read up on the issue?" what is the point then?
You made two mistakes - first - you dissed "geek", Second you implied a complement, however left-handed, to Apple Computer those two, regardless of truth, will not go unpunished in this "unbiased" forum....
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they can have my monkey - he was throwing shit everywhere.
50 MPH zone transitioning into a short 35 MPH zone on a straight and level consistently wide road, is for no reason other than to allow the creation of a speed trap so that the town where that 35 MPH zone resides can stick it to people.
I see you've driven our famous Highway 301 in North and Central Florida. Most of those little towns actually fund the Police force with speeding tickets.
Barnes and Noble's / Amazon's reader apps already do this ebook syncing. Firefox does bookmark syncing. Google account syncs your phonebook/email.
you are right, of course, there is nothing new with yesterdays announcements. Except.... You just listed three separate syncing services with different configurations and Fumblings to get it all to work. Apples announcement yesterday is, essentially, sync it all for free (or an extra $25.00 a year, for the songs you didn't buy from iTunes) and the configuration required is a single username and password entered on each device to sync them all.... (there is a LOTR joke in there somewhere). That's what has made Apple so popular - the idea that all this geeky stuff can be easy to set up and relatively hassle free to maintain. No question they will gain market share with this - if nothing else the talking points are huge, and that sells devices.
oh, yes, isn't it so "ironic" that they're attacking business who are complicit in the government's attempt to circumvent the first amendment by pressuring businesses to "voluntarily" do the censorship for them.
Next, you'll be complaining it's kinda ironic that they're attaching the freedom of the government to ride roughshod over the consitition.
My god, the freedom! Where will it ever end!
I'm not the OP but commenting on the irony of a thing is not the same as complaining about it. Reading all that extra motivation and content into a remark is what creates a false controversy. "Straw man" is the logic fallacy involved.
No, but most TV stations surround themselves with a plague (my collective term for a group) of lawyers.
Really? I kinda like Doves....
I would have used: a Culture of Lawyers (same as bacteria), a battery of lawyers (barracuda), a Smack of Lawyers (jelly fish), or maybe a Surfiet of Lawyers (skunks)...
The US has lost some freedoms, but it has gained others. It is much easier to be openly homosexual, segregation is no longer enshrined in law, and one doesn't have to participate in school prayers.
It's selfish of me, I know, but I completly disagree with the implied balance of the trade off. I'm a straight, married, middle aged, white male and, while it is a step in the right direction for the Black and Gay communities, my losing personal security, privacy, and the ability to move around the country without being annoyed by whichever LE professional has a chip that day was NOT an acceptable trade off.
Nor were any of the other various rights that have been eroded away in the name of "Security".
Nor was the laundry list of new corporate rights that not only equal, but exceed my rights as a citizen.
It was REALLY exciting, until I realized that no North American courts are involved... A sane decision concerning copyright infringement by a U.S. Court would be really fantastic.
There are times that I really think slashdot should have a +1 or -1 Sarcasm mod. You would have gotten one from me, if so.
But if they could stop everyone else from spamming my Facebook page with crap by default, that would be nice too.
Why is anyone complaining about spam from Zynga games? I've blocked them using the built in tools and I only see the very rare personal post by a player concerning the game they play, now. It's been like that for me for over a month.
DSOTM was originally called Eclipse when it was first played in 1972, Jan 20th Brighton Dome. Then another band released an album called Eclipse (as I rrad at the time in Melody Maker) so they changed the name
No, the Album name was originally "The Dark Side of the moon", it was temporarily changed to "Eclipse" when it turned out that there was another "Dark Side of the moon" that one failed, so they changed the name back.
Parrots and other birds are trained very poorly via Pavlovian conditioning. That isn't the only type of training, and Model-Rival training works much more effectively on birds (which isn't to say anything about how it works on other animals).
I agree - and, although Alex was trained with Model Rival techniques, I prefer operant conditioning with my Macaws and Greys because of speed, each of our guys seem to get the idea faster with a target and click. Considering that I seem to be able to teach the physical behaviors better than verbal ones, I have to admit that I'm missing part of the puzzle.
Alex was a special case. He had received decades of organized schooling from scientists, who I'd like to think make better teachers than birds.
You can be sure that the birds in this article are just mimicking sounds.
Alex was not a special case, excepting that he was the first to demonstrate that what we were wrong in what we thought the limits were. Dismissing Alex because he got years of education that other birds didn't get avoids the reality of what he represents. That education produces better results in communication and thinking skills isn't really all that surprising, in humans. What Alex demonstrated was that the abilities of non-humans can reach significantly higher levels than we ever thought was possible. Dr. Pepperburg is still working with Alexs flock mates, and produces similar results from them without the "decades" of training. This is not unlike humans, there is certainly a variation in what each individual is ultimately capable of, but if you don't know that a human is capable of math, you don't try to teach them, once know that the bar is higher then you strive for it, and, like human education, as you understand how to communicate with the student more, you can educate them faster. The systematic approach to teaching Parrots, particularly Greys, produces faster results, I'm sure, but that doesn't mean that the birds don't teach each other, they most assuredly do.
What's wrong with saying 4 deciliters?
Because people, as a whole, gravitate to simplicity. They want "a cup", "A pint" or some other simple group label when they do something repeatedly (like order a beer).. and if the simple thing doesn't exist, one will, inevitably evolve. and thus, the reference to "Folk" volumes appearing alongside the rigid measurements.
Lets make collecting rain illegal.
It IS, in some western states, illegal to collect rainwater. http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/environment/water/4314447
Google only blocks you Plus account. Mail and whatnot is still intact, unless you were spamming. Google has already commented on that. So how about reading up on the issue before panicking?
And reading slash dot is not a way to "read up on the issue?" what is the point then?
Firefox 8: "The Ocho"
Then I dread the loudmouthed point five release.
I actually didn't even think about that. I just automatically assumed that she in fact is a history geek. I have no idea what that says about me.
It says you are a fan of at least one Kevin Costner movie..... "Who would claim to be that?" Here endeth the lesson... heh
Jay Leno owns and drives three street legal vehicles: Motorcycle, Car, and a Pick-up truck, Although I'm not sure the car is on the road yet. http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/jay-leno/4200831
A former employer of mine used to (well, probably still does) say something was a "mute point". It grated on my nerves every time he said that.
What? You didn't take the opportunity to point out that "mute" means STFU?
Does having wives in different countries qualify as Bigamy?
You made two mistakes - first - you dissed "geek", Second you implied a complement, however left-handed, to Apple Computer those two, regardless of truth, will not go unpunished in this "unbiased" forum....
they can have my monkey - he was throwing shit everywhere.
50 MPH zone transitioning into a short 35 MPH zone on a straight and level consistently wide road, is for no reason other than to allow the creation of a speed trap so that the town where that 35 MPH zone resides can stick it to people.
I see you've driven our famous Highway 301 in North and Central Florida. Most of those little towns actually fund the Police force with speeding tickets.
Barnes and Noble's / Amazon's reader apps already do this ebook syncing. Firefox does bookmark syncing. Google account syncs your phonebook/email.
you are right, of course, there is nothing new with yesterdays announcements. Except.... You just listed three separate syncing services with different configurations and Fumblings to get it all to work. Apples announcement yesterday is, essentially, sync it all for free (or an extra $25.00 a year, for the songs you didn't buy from iTunes) and the configuration required is a single username and password entered on each device to sync them all.... (there is a LOTR joke in there somewhere). That's what has made Apple so popular - the idea that all this geeky stuff can be easy to set up and relatively hassle free to maintain. No question they will gain market share with this - if nothing else the talking points are huge, and that sells devices.
so YOUR the asshole that makes my car insurance rates go up!
so you're the asshole ruining english.
Barnes and Noble? Walmart? iTunes? (well, maybe not iTunes... Steve's a prude) Rule 34(c) - ..... And you will be able to buy it somewhere.
So I guess the eternal
Considering that "lemmings jumping off a cliff" is a myth, your comment is insightful.
A high court in an important-to-technology-business country just ruled that magic is science. That's pretty newsworthy.
Well, it's not magic until one of the cockamamy predictions is correct. Until then it's just like predicting the weather, but with even less accuracy.
Wrong - it's 'magic' when someone treats it like it has substance, not when the dice finally roll a seven.
oh, yes, isn't it so "ironic" that they're attacking business who are complicit in the government's attempt to circumvent the first amendment by pressuring businesses to "voluntarily" do the censorship for them.
Next, you'll be complaining it's kinda ironic that they're attaching the freedom of the government to ride roughshod over the consitition.
My god, the freedom! Where will it ever end!
I'm not the OP but commenting on the irony of a thing is not the same as complaining about it. Reading all that extra motivation and content into a remark is what creates a false controversy. "Straw man" is the logic fallacy involved.
No, but most TV stations surround themselves with a plague (my collective term for a group) of lawyers.
Really? I kinda like Doves....
I would have used: a Culture of Lawyers (same as bacteria), a battery of lawyers (barracuda), a Smack of Lawyers (jelly fish), or maybe a Surfiet of Lawyers (skunks)...
my apologies to all those animals.
because international proxies apparently don't exist?
because TOR doesn't exist?
because satellite internet doesn't exist?
from a technical perspective, both the export restrictions and the amelioration made by google are idiotic.
in all fairness, they could already use those techniques to download the software.
The US has lost some freedoms, but it has gained others. It is much easier to be openly homosexual, segregation is no longer enshrined in law, and one doesn't have to participate in school prayers.
It's selfish of me, I know, but I completly disagree with the implied balance of the trade off. I'm a straight, married, middle aged, white male and, while it is a step in the right direction for the Black and Gay communities, my losing personal security, privacy, and the ability to move around the country without being annoyed by whichever LE professional has a chip that day was NOT an acceptable trade off. Nor were any of the other various rights that have been eroded away in the name of "Security". Nor was the laundry list of new corporate rights that not only equal, but exceed my rights as a citizen.
It was REALLY exciting, until I realized that no North American courts are involved... A sane decision concerning copyright infringement by a U.S. Court would be really fantastic.
There are times that I really think slashdot should have a +1 or -1 Sarcasm mod. You would have gotten one from me, if so.
But if they could stop everyone else from spamming my Facebook page with crap by default, that would be nice too.
Why is anyone complaining about spam from Zynga games? I've blocked them using the built in tools and I only see the very rare personal post by a player concerning the game they play, now. It's been like that for me for over a month.
DSOTM was originally called Eclipse when it was first played in 1972, Jan 20th Brighton Dome. Then another band released an album called Eclipse (as I rrad at the time in Melody Maker) so they changed the name
No, the Album name was originally "The Dark Side of the moon", it was temporarily changed to "Eclipse" when it turned out that there was another "Dark Side of the moon" that one failed, so they changed the name back.