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Germany Says Copying of DVDs, CDs Is Verboten

Posted by Zonk on from the you-own-nothing-you-hear-me dept.

Billosaur writes "In what can only be seen as the opening salvo in an attempt to control what users can do with content, the German parliament has approved a controversial copyright law which will make it illegal to make copies of CDs and DVDs, even for personal use. The Bundesrat, the upper part of the German parliament, approved the legislation over the objections of consumer protection groups. The law is set to take effect in 2008, and covers CDs, DVDs, recordings from IPTV, and TV recordings." A few folks have noted that this story is incorrect. The original link seems to be down now anyway. Sorry.

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  1. Better hurry then by jtroutman · · Score: 4, Funny

    That gives you three months to make all the copies you're going to need.

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  2. what about copying comments? by stoolpigeon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The author does not report the facts. The law does not prohibit the copying of DVDs or CDs; it disallows the circumvention of anti-copying technologies like Macrovision et al., something that has been illegal in the US for a decade. The law specifically allows users to make backups of DVD and CD movies, software and music and other digital content for their own archives and to use/play on alternate devices (i.e., ripping movies to your hard drive to watch on a DVR or other device, ripping music to play on an ipod or other device, etc.). These specifically-named consumer rights are actually broader than those granted by law to American consumers. I am not sure what the author relied upon for his translation of the law, but I can assure you that it does nothing like what he suggests.

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    1. Re:what about copying comments? by LWATCDR · · Score: 5, Informative

      "The law does not prohibit the copying of DVDs or CDs; it disallows the circumvention of anti-copying technologies like Macrovision et al.,"
      So exactly how does one make a copy of a movie to their hard drive without circumventing De-CSS?
      Seems like the DMCA to me.

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    2. Re:what about copying comments? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The author does not report the facts. The law does not prohibit the copying of DVDs or CDs; it disallows the circumvention of anti-copying technologies

      And if someone were to hold a plastic bag over your head, it is not killing you, it disallows fresh air from reaching your lungs.

      If you make all possible ways of achieving a task illegal, then it is illegal to achieve that task, no matter how you wish to play with your words.

    3. Re:what about copying comments? by RMingin · · Score: 5, Informative

      Unfortunately for your grand plan, reality conflicts.

      Recordable DVDs have the area which would be used to store the CSS keys pre-burned to 000000000. This is *precisely* to keep the end user from making a bit-for-bit copy.

      Furthermore, you can't make a bit-for-bit copy of even just the contents of the largest dual layer silvers. A dual layer silver can hold roughly 9GB, while a dual layer recordable maxes out at 8.5GB. It doesn't really do much to stop anyone from anything, but sometimes bit-for-bit is legal while a re-encode is not.

      Laws sometimes suck.

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  3. so what exactly are you getting ... by vlad_petric · · Score: 4, Insightful

    with a CD/DVD purchase? It seems to me - a license to play the content, privately, for the lifetime of the physical medium.

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    1. Re:so what exactly are you getting ... by Clay+Pigeon+-TPF-VS- · · Score: 4, Insightful

      For that much money it better be for MY lifetime.

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  4. So sad. by bi$hop · · Score: 5, Funny

    I remember the good ol' days when copying of DVDs and CDs was just farhfegnugen in Germany. Now it's verboten? Next thing you know it will be gesundheit!

  5. That's REALLY impressive! by erroneus · · Score: 4, Funny

    Clearly German legislators are less expensive than those of many other nations! I'll keep that in mind when I need to buy a new law! :)

  6. what about slash-pork? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "I am not sure what the author relied upon for his translation of the law, but I can assure you that it does nothing like what he suggests."

    It's called, pushing the hot buttons. And since few RTFA or anything deeper than that. It slips by easier and easier. Kind of the slashdot version of slipping an item into a bill just before voting and hoping no one will notice. And much like that the consequences are hard to get rid of.

  7. What does it mean to "own" media? by posterlogo · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Do we license it?


    Do we own the physical CD/DVD, but not what's on it?

    If we own the right to use the media for personal use, then we should get additional copies of the physical media at no (or very little) charge if it becomes damaged.

    But if we own that CD/DVD, then we should be able to make our own backups, at the least.

    The content producers want it both ways. They say that we don't really "own" the content, just the right to access it, but what if you can't access that content? For example, no more working record players or tape decks in the world. Then we should get the updated version for free right? If we bought the right to access that content. If not, then they should just fuck off and let us acquire or reacquire content we already paid for.