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Telecom Companies Seek Retroactive Immunity

kidcharles writes "Newsweek reports that a secretive lobbying campaign has been launched by telecommunications companies who are seeking retroactive immunity from private lawsuits over their cooperation with the NSA in the so-called 'terrorist surveillance program.' Director of National Intelligence Mike McConnell has claimed that lawsuits could 'bankrupt these companies.' The Electronic Frontier Foundation has filed a lawsuit against AT&T over their cooperation in the domestic spying program. EFF legal director Cindy Cohen said of the lobbying campaign, 'They are trying to completely immunize this [the surveillance program] from any kind of judicial review. I find it a little shocking that Congress would participate in the covering up of what has been going on.'"

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  1. Why shocking? by spooje · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why is anyone surprised Congress would be hushing this up? If the companies get sued for huge sums, then where will they get money to bribe congressmen?

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  2. Shocking??? Get real by WindBourne · · Score: 4, Insightful

    First, ALL companies participated in this program. To not do so, would have jeopardized their gov contracts. A major reason why the gov spreads the wealth around is because then the companies are beholden to them. Imagine what would have happened to Verizon or QWest(yes, qwest did not par ticpate in a few minor parts) if they had not? Not only would they have been denied future contracts, but they would have lost major gov contracts and probably a number of other contracts dealing with companies who are very dependant on the feds. For QWest alone, they would have lost no less than 20% of their business. Verizon would have lost a great deal more. What is shocking is that this is in the open.

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  3. Not quite by DogDude · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You're not really understanding the situation. AT&T didn't say, "Hey, let's spy on our customers, and ask Bush if we can do it." That's not how his happened.

    What actually happened was King George II told AT&T and other companies: Let us into your networks. We say so. We have the guns. If you don't comply, then you'll be branded as terrorists.

    And yes, you can say that AT&T and such should not have complied, but nobody outside of the top brass at AT&T know what they were threatened with. Maybe they were given payment, maybe they weren't. Of course, the government won't release any of that information, so nobody will ever know.

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    1. Re:Not quite by WindowlessView · · Score: 5, Insightful

      And yes, you can say that AT&T and such should not have complied, but nobody outside of the top brass at AT&T know what they were threatened with.

      Isn't this the kind of thing that once upon a time the Free Press leaked, Congress investigated, and the Justice Department prosecuted? Maybe it time people stopped mumbling the mindless incantation that "everything changed after 9/11" and using it as an excuse to abdicate their responsibilities and justify not upholding the law.

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  4. God forbid... by PJ1216 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Director of National Intelligence Mike McConnell has claimed that lawsuits could 'bankrupt these companies.' God forbid a company goes bankrupt for breaking the law. If a lawsuit does bankrupt the company, its the company's own fault for not having its customer's best interests in mind. Thats the law of the land... you upset your customers, you run the risk of losing them, or worse (ie: having them sue you). They made a bad business move and they should pay the consequences. They shouldn't be allowed to not suffer any consequences just because it might hurt them. That's ridiculous. Why does the government go so far out of its way to try and protect big businesses? even when its protecting these businesses from the citizens that had their rights abused by these companies. 'A goverment for the people' my ass.
  5. command and control by schwaang · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's actually in the long-term best interests of all companies to *not* have this immunity.

    This just enables a form of government interference in corporations that is even worse than regulatory laws. Regulations get made in the open and are subject to lobbying and court rulings. Whereas the NSA warrantless spying amounts to the commandeering of the corporate assets and procedures and is enforced by secret laws that (apparently) cannot be challenged in court in any reasonable way.

    Even with recompensation that returns a profit on investment, this is a bad deal for corporate independence.

  6. Re:Darn... by Wordplay · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Everyone else is already calling BS, and I agree. The companies colluded voluntarily, whether it was to preserve contracts or not; greed's not a reason to break the law.

    I'll also point out that the only way you'll ever be able to ensure that the government won't be able to do this again, at least so easily, is to crucify the companies who helped them do it and didn't call foul loudly and publicly. Set that sort of precedent, and they won't have willing accomplices again. Moreover, it'll be for -business- reasons, the only universal ones in a capitalist society.