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Review of Amazon's DRM-Less Music Download Store

fdmendez writes to tell us that he had a chance to check out Amazon's DRM-less music download store that was recently released as a beta trial. "Amazon one-ups the iTunes store in every way except for popularity. Never once did I find an album to be more expensive on the Amazon store in comparison to the iTunes store. The download experience was pleasant, and the lack of DRM truly makes it YOUR music. I don't know of any other download service that could top the Amazon MP3 store."

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  1. I tried it out yesterday by SiChemist · · Score: 5, Informative

    I tried the store out yesterday (bought 1 track) and was very impressed. No special software needed (making it Linux friendly). This might just get me back into buying music again instead of listening to all my old stuff.

    1. Re:I tried it out yesterday by QuantumRiff · · Score: 5, Informative

      Per their FAQ:
      If you use Linux, you can currently buy individual songs. A Linux version of the Amazon MP3 Downloader is under development, and when released will allow entire album purchases.

      That is really nice to see!

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  2. Classical selection... by Pausanias · · Score: 3, Informative

    is amazing! Prokofiev symphony #2 revealed 156 hits! Now that is some obscure music (his least popular symphony), and the fact that they would have multiple recordings of it right there for 90c... wow.

    1. Re:Classical selection... by Petrushka · · Score: 4, Informative

      is amazing! Prokofiev symphony #2 revealed 156 hits! Now that is some obscure music (his least popular symphony), and the fact that they would have multiple recordings of it right there for 90c... wow.

      Just for some balance,

      1. only a few of those hits are actually for Prokofiev's 2nd symphony;
      2. only three separate recordings are available;
      3. with one of them (the Ukraine National Symphony Orchestra recording), you're going to be paying that 90c for each and every variation in the second movement, for a total of $7.20 for that one movement. With the other two recordings (LSO and Berliner Phil.), you have to buy all the symphonies just to get number two, as number two is marked as "album only".

      I mean, it seems to me like they're on the right track, but someone hasn't put too much thought into the fact that classical music tends to have a lot of very short and very long tracks. Evidence of this -- compare the prices for the complete set of Prokofiev symphonies in those three recordings:

      • Naxos (Ukrainian/Polish orchestras) -- $65.02
      • LSO/Gergiev -- $36.12
      • Berliner Philharmoniker/Dzawa -- $21.67

      Who's going to pay more than three times as much for a Naxos set as for the Berliner Philharmoniker???

  3. Re:Obligitory by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    A lot of the 95% complete torrents are seeded by the MAFIAA or their minions like MediaDefender.

  4. Not exactly DRM free by geekoid · · Score: 1, Informative

    They are watermarked, and you have to install their software.

    No, that is not a comparison to iTunes, just some facts.

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    1. Re:Not exactly DRM free by Necreia · · Score: 3, Informative

      You only download their software if you download a whole CD. Single tracks require no software download.

    2. Re:Not exactly DRM free by jumpingfred · · Score: 3, Informative

      You do not have to install the software to buy one track at a time. You do to get the album discount though.

      Do you have a site for the watermarking?

    3. Re:Not exactly DRM free by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      http://blog.wired.com/music/2007/09/some-of-amazons.html

      "Amazon does not apply watermarks. Files are generally provided to us from the labels and some labels use watermarks to identify the retailer who sold the tracks (there is no information on the tracks that identifies the customer)."

  5. Re:MP3 sounds bad to my ears by FishWithAHammer · · Score: 2, Informative

    Now this, children, is what we call "elitist fuckery."

    I'd bet ANYTHING that you cannot differentiate between 256kbps MP3 and FLAC.

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  6. Re:US Only by jcr · · Score: 4, Informative

    Give them a fake address. A friend of mine in Brazil just told me that they're not checking.

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  7. Re:Obligitory by JackMeyhoff · · Score: 1, Informative

    Only download with lots of seeds then, follow the herd.

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  8. BZZZZT by robogun · · Score: 4, Informative

    Just tried it. XP & VISTA or MAC OSX ONLY for Albums!!!

    -------------------
    You have selected to purchase:
            GREATEST HITS by Elton John
    (Amazon MP3 Purchases are limited to U.S. customers.)

    You must install the Amazon MP3 Downloader to purchase albums. (learn more)

            * It automatically adds your music downloads to iTunes or Windows Media Player
            * It takes just a few clicks and less than 30 seconds to install

    DOWNLOAD NOW -- WINDOWS XP & VISTA

    I agree to the terms of use | Download Mac OS X version

  9. Re:AAC "quality" irrelevant ... by metamatic · · Score: 2, Informative

    There's no "vendor lock" for AAC either, just lots of crap vendors who haven't added support for it yet.

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  10. Re:"in every way" by croddy · · Score: 4, Informative

    They're not 256kbps CBR mp3s. They look like -V0 or -V1 files, based on the bitrate, but are definitely joint-stereo VBR files encoded using LAME 3.97. Run it through strings to see for yourself. There are a lot more devices that support MP3 than AAC (don't just think about pocket jukeboxes here -- think of stuff that plays MP3 CDs and DVDs). 89 cents for a high-bitrate LAME VBR MP3 is without doubt a better choice than an AAC at a slightly lower bitrate for $1.39.

  11. Re:"in every way" by croddy · · Score: 4, Informative

    (the two files I've inspected myself, by the way, averaged 279 kbps and 280kbps.)

  12. Re:MP3 piracy irrelevant by larry+bagina · · Score: 5, Informative

    Some of their MP3s are in fact watermarked, but by the label, not amazon (at least not yet).

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  13. You can't be serious. by Leviathant · · Score: 5, Informative

    That's funny! At one time I thought the same thing. Anecdote: I was going through the tedious task of ripping my CDs, and after going through my collection of Nine Inch Nails and Autechre discs, I got the bright idea that instead of ripping my Aphex Twin collection, I'd just download a torrent. Same end result, right? I figured Aphex Twin fans would be fairly careful about audio fidelity, so I grabbed a torrent of some giganto Aphex Twin collection.

    The end result was all over the map. Sure, there were a number of albums that were alright, some of them were terrible, with skips and low bitrates and mistitled songs, not to mention whole albums of "rare and unreleased" mislabeled garbage that wasn't even by Aphex Twin. I would have better spent my time continuing to rip them myself.

    Alternatively, if I didn't already own the CDs, I would have happily bought large chunks of the Aphex Twin catalog from Bleep.com, which has been doing the DRM-free $1 MP3 download thing for over three years now.

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  14. Re:AAC "quality" irrelevant ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Except, of course, that Apple's 256kb AACs -- which is what folks are discussing -- don't have DRM, and are playable without modification on a wide variety of non-Apple players.

  15. UK Works by fozzmeister · · Score: 3, Informative

    OK it works for the UK too, unlike Apple...

    Because the "cost of doing business in the UK is higher" songs from Apple are _twice_ as expensive than in the US.

    All I have to do to use Amazon is get a Zip code that fits in a selected state and bob's your uncle! Half price music!

  16. Not watermarked, it seems by wdconinc · · Score: 3, Informative
    Are you sure about the watermarking?
    I bought the same song twice, with a different account, different credit card, different IP address. The files are identical!

    # diff -s 1\ -\ Indigo.mp3 1\ -\ Indigo\ \(alternate\).mp3
    Files 1 - Indigo.mp3 and 1 - Indigo (alternate).mp3 are identical
  17. Re:"in every way" by Frogbert · · Score: 4, Informative
  18. Re:AAC "quality" irrelevant ... by MojoStan · · Score: 3, Informative

    As for quality, I did my own listening tests between 192Kbps MP3 and 128Kbps AAC when Apple first added support for AAC, and I could clearly hear a difference (using iTunes encoding, maybe it was their ripper). To my ears AAC sounds much better than MP3. If you used the default MP3 encoder in iTunes, then you probably used the worst MP3 encoder available (I'm pretty sure it was Fraunhofer back then). On the other hand, the AAC encoder in iTunes is one of the best. So if you used iTunes to encode both MP3s and AACs, then it wasn't a fair test.

    As many others have noted, Amazon uses LAME, which is the best MP3 encoder. At equal bitrates, LAME MP3 should be roughly equal in quality to iTunes AAC. At 192kbps MP3 vs 128kbps AAC, LAME should be clearly better. At 256kbps, there should be no difference to all but those with canine hearing and zillion-dollar stereo systems.

    Roberto Amorim and Sebastian (who appears to be continuing Amorim's work) have done some interesting "public double-blind listening tests."

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  19. Re:Obligitory by NamShubCMX · · Score: 3, Informative

    Actually, every time someone buys a 99 cents track from iTunes from my band, we get 63 cents. I guess amazon service is about the same.

    Maybe MAJOR artists dont get paid but cdbaby's (cdbaby.com) sure do :)

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