Briefcase Sized DNA Analysis System
An anonymous reader writes "Japan's NEC Corporation along with Aida Engineering have developed a briefcase-sized DNA analysis system that enables the police to perform comprehensive DNA testing at crime scenes in as little as 25 minutes. The same test would take at least a day to a week (if re-testing or conformation is required) in the lab. The system is compact enough to be carried to crime scenes or other locations where quick DNA analysis is required, making it the world's first portable DNA analysis system."
Can't wait to see the minimum-wage TSA employees using this.
Coming soon! To an airport near you!!
No folly is more costly than the folly of intolerant idealism. - Winston Churchill
and I wouldn't mind sharing my DNA with the girl in the photo.
The higher the technology, the sharper that two-edged sword.
So now the police can tamper with the evidence at the scene, rather than having the lab do it.
I cannot imagine my rights being violated by some brash badge or overzealous detective. Never. I imagine all of the data collected will be kept private and secure. I cannot imagine my dna ever falling into the wrong hands. I cannot fathom an hmo denying to insure me due to my genes. No another tool which has added another layer of security and safety to the average true blooded american citizen. And for those nasty criminals (ahem *citizens*) we can use those new fangled pain guns to get them to give samples so we arrest them for all the horrible things they (ahem ahem *may* (g0d I have a sore throat today)) have done.
I love to see the principles of the constitution being upheld(ahem ahem ahem *read as trampling* (must be pneumonia(bad genes I guess))).
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I guess it won't be long now until we see a sampler/scanner that fits into a turnstile.
From the blurb:
The same test would take at least a day to a week (if re-testing or conformation is required) in the lab.
Um, correct me if I'm wrong here, but the 1-7 days is still gonna be the case if/when you're verifying your results. This is just a "quick and dirty" test that will gain more acceptance and weight that it will deserve (::cough::POLYGRAPH::cough::). My guess is that it will just be a tool that Homeland Security/Your Average Cop will use to hold you until other tests *conclusively* provide a definite presence/absence answer (like PCR done by an ISO certified lab, HPLC done by an ISO certified lab, GCMS done by.. well you get the point.)
Just my $0.02 here.
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I wonder how this works; obviously, 25 minutes isn't enough time to perform any PCR (even something like hot start PCR), so does it rely on having sufficient amounts of DNA available to perform whatever test they're using? Sometimes that can be a not-inconsiderable amount.
I didn't read the article, but eh. Just wondering.
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From TFA:
The compact unit can be used to:
(1) take cell samples,
(2) extract the DNA,
(3) perform polymerase chain reaction (PCR) amplification to generate copies of the DNA,
(4) perform electrophoresis to measure the spacing between DNA bands (to create the genetic fingerprint), and
(5) perform short tandem repeat (STR) analysis to create a unique genetic profile for the individual,"
As I'm currently a grad student in biotechnology (and am performing similar processes in the lab), I feel compelled to respond to their claims on processing time. Taken step by step;
1: simple enough, although some cells are more suitable to DNA work than others.
2: the main obstacles in extracting DNA are proteins and prokaryotic contamination in the sample. DNA is almost always complexed with proteins like polymerases and histones. These proteins effectively prevent the DNA from migrating through agarose or acrylamide; the resulting electrophoresis bands would be almost meaningless. Prokaryotes are pretty much ubiquitous. The problem is that they carry their own DNA which can confuse results, and they carry endonucleases which chop apart most any DNA they come in contact with; destroying the reliability of the gel electrophoresis. Endonuclease digestion of DNA is standard fare for genetics, and I'm assuming that it's performed here, but the contamination of unknown endonucleases from uncharacterized bacteria causes problems regardless. Time required to separate the DNA from the proteins: 1 hour at best.
3: PCR incubation time depends on the length of the DNA chains being amplified, and the initial size of your sample. 10 minutes would be a best case scenario, and that's with ideally sized DNA fragments (whole-genome DNA is far too large), and a large initial sample (not likely).
4: As mentioned previously, protein contamination can make the electrophoresis results almost unreadable. Furthermore, moving that much DNA through a gel in such a short time requires very high voltages. The banding which results from high voltages is generally very blurred, making the 'fingerprint" unreadable. Moreover, whole-genome DNA doesn't really separate into bands; it makes big long smears, so standard staining practice is useless for diagnostics. The last gel I ran with genomic DNA (corn in this case) required about 45 minutes, and that was a small gel using high voltage.
5: STR analysis is touchy. Basically, you use a radioactive or chemoluminescent probe on both the genomic DNA, and a DNA with known STR lengths and compare how bright the sample is compared to the standard. An accurate reading requires a fairly precise estimate of the amount of DNA in your sample; a measure that usually requires a well-calibrated photospectrometer that also needs time to warm up and be calibrated. To further complicate matters, your DNA is in a gel. Getting the tagged probe into the gel (or getting the sample DNA back out of the gel) so that annealing can occur takes time. A southern blot (process involving the removal of DNA from a gel) is usually allowed to run overnight. After annealing takes place, the extra probe molecules are washed away. If excess stray probe is allowed to sit around, or if the annealing isn't complete in the first place, the measurement becomes unreliable. The minimum time I would think feasible for this step would be an hour. In a lab, the labeling alone is normally a 3 hour process. Accuracy would suffer tremendously as time decreases.
So yeah, in conclusion, their time frame for getting results is obscenely short. Severly truncated time frames produce equally severe errors. I don't personally know any scientist who would vouch for the validity of these results.
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which also fit into a briefcase.
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(In the category "Things I want vs. things I need"
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Criminal : "I didn't kill anybody!"
SGT. "So, you say you're not the killer eh? We'll see about that. We just got this new test that'll tell us if you murdered him or not."
Officer : "Aight Sarget. I got the kit. It says we need parental supervision before handling chemicals."
SGT. : "Set timer for five minutes."
Officer : "Check."
SGT. : "Fill Vial 'A' with 25ml saline solution."
Officer : "Check."
SGT. : "Warm to 85 degrees Fahrenheit. Then add suspect sample to Vial 'A'."
Officer : "Check. No wait....Ok. Check."
SGT. : "Activate timer. After 2.5 minutes, Add 2ml of liquid from evidence sample in Vial 'B'. Stir with enclosed plastic rod."
Officer : "Check."
--5 minutes later--
Officer : "Time!"
SGT. : "Using enclosed eydropper, place ONE (1) drop onto test strip in marked area. BLUE=MATCH, CLEAR=NO MATCH"
Officer : "What if it's pink?"
SGT. : "He's pregnant."
I would seriously question the accuracy of these tests, since there a many factors, both environmental and analytical that can affect the outcome of the test. Laboratory tests are meant to be conducted in a LABORATORY, not a Samsonite briefcase. Now, you will be giving every rookie officer who can hold a Q-Tip the same credibility as an educated, trained, and well-experienced forensic technician.
Laboratory setting are ideal for conducting tests and experiments: The are well-equipped, well-engineered, staffed by technicians with years of experience (discounting interns, of course), don't sacrifice accuracy for space, and allow a consistent, managed environment for evidence analysis, storage, and custody control. Treating DNA evidence as if it were a case of bad breath is just wrong. If I were a judge, I would seriously question the integrity of such tests and their results.
This is treating Forensic Science less like science and more like a "Conviction-In-A-Can".
Knowing Google's lust for data collection, the Soviet Union is still alive and well inside the psyche of Sergey Brin....
Given that DNA tests become more mainstream, it would be rather interesting to see how large a percentage of the population actually is a chimera. If it turns out to be "popular", DNA tests could lose a lot of their credibility (in which case DNA-tests-at-the-counter become a hazard instead of a benefit).
Indeed, I had a lecture from the director of our national forensic institute (Dutch) once, explaining the whole procedure of obtaining DNA, what they actually analyze and how they verify the validity. There is a reason why these tests take up to 2 weeks to give a result: Once you as a scientist say "we have DNA evidence, we got him!" it pretty much seals the deal. So you got to be damn sure you are right: -what are the odds that an identical DNA pattern from someone else came there (no they don't sequence your DNA, so there's a small chance that another person with a similar pattern was on the crime scene, usually the chance is close to zero though) -how was the evidence collected, could it be contaminated etc. etc. -is there other evidence that contradicts the results And after that an analyzis has to been done estimating the chances that you are wrong in saying that the DNA is from the person you are accusing, and that he/she actually commited the crime. I wouldn't be very happy to let an untrained (in forensics) police officer do those things, because most of them hardly known what DNA is, and what exactly is analyzed. Another reason why you wouldn't wnat that: in the lab everythinh is done anonymous, the analyst just has sample numbers and suspect, X, Y, and Z. The police will know the name of the suspect and stop looking as soon as they think they can nail him, regardless of the presence of any other evidence contradicting this. PS. This forensics guy wasn't too happy with CSI, it creates really unrealistic expectations about what cases the police can actually solve (and the amount of time it takes them to do so).