Slashdot Mirror


Ohio Net Censorship Law Struck Down

rfc1394 writes "C|Net reports that a federal judge has struck down as unconstitutional a portion of an Ohio statute which attempted to prevent minors from seeing material which would be 'harmful' to them, but was so overbroad that it would have covered a considerable amount of material which is legal for adults to view. Basically, if a website operator had reason to believe the material they were showing was visible to minors, and if the material was considered to be harmful to them, they would be in violation of the law. Since about 1/6 of the users of the Internet are minors, it's trivial to argue that anyone running a website would be aware that the material they have is visible to minors even if they had no intention of doing so."

10 of 121 comments (clear)

  1. 1/6? by Mursk · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Where did that 1/6 figure come from? The article seems to use it just to give an example, while the summary seems to quote it as fact.

    I know, I know, I must be new here. But does anyone happen to have any more reliable statistics?

    --
    "This thing does science so hard, you say, 'I've never seen that much science.'" -Sam
  2. Again and again... by gillbates · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Legislators draft laws in an effort to appear "Tough on crime" or to "Protect the children", knowing full well that they won't pass the muster of the courts.

    Why do they do this?

    It's political posturing, nothing more. The laws passed are so vague that they could not possibly stand up to the scrutiny of established case law, much less Constitutional questions. It's an old trick, by which the politician can say to his constituents, "Look! I passed laws to protect children, but that darned Supreme Court struck them down..." By trade, most politicians are lawyers, so they can draft legislation which they know is contrary to established Constitutional and case law and will be struck down. But they get the benefit of the public belief that they are doing something about the child-porn bogey man.

    And what happens? We on /. make much of laws which were never intended to be enforced.

    But what happens when one of these vague laws is enforced, and found not vague enough to be declared unconstitutional? Or the accused can't afford a good lawyer?

    --
    The society for a thought-free internet welcomes you.
  3. Re:This is very bad... by MightyMartian · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Translation: I'm a closet Stalinist who tries to wear the garb of a savior of society. I don't like something, and since I am smarter and more important than anyone else, I think I should have the right to dictate my own tastes upon the rest of my society.

    --
    The world's burning. Moped Jesus spotted on I50. Details at 11.
  4. Feminist eh? by brunes69 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You'd think that as a feminist you would be pro pornography.

    Why should you, or any government, get to dictate what a woman can or can not do with her own body?

    Just because pornography does not agree with your own personal moral standards does not make it a woman's rights issue. If a woman is ot have the right to choose, then she is to also have the right to choose how to make a living. If that includes having sex for money, so be it.

    1. Re:Feminist eh? by Kandenshi · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Some of us happen to have no problem with porn, so long as it's done between adults who gave informed consent, and viewed by adults who want to look at/watch/read it. Much (most?) porn appears would be degrading to me, were I to be one of the actors, but I'm not. I don't get to choose to tell someone "Don't do that, I'd be disgusted at the idea of doing it" There are plenty of jobs that are distateful to me, but I don't see that as a reason to artificially make it hard to get those jobs via legal measures.

      And also, porn is degrading to women? What about gay porn? Trust me, there's PLENTY of it and the only people getting degraded in those are guys :P
      So in Ohio hetero porn == bad, but gay porn is alright?

      Huh, I wouldn't have guessed that. Learn something new every day.

    2. Re:Feminist eh? by thegnu · · Score: 4, Insightful

      No, men resort to porn because they are too lazy or socially inept to find a woman to interact with. Oh, wait, you meant starring in porn . . .

      Men not being able to get laid is quite a similar problem to women not being able to get money. Men can always buy sex, and women can always sleep their way to cash. A socially inept man is not entitled to sex. A professionally inept woman is not entitled to a good job any more than a professionally inept man is.

      I think you may have just been being facetious, but I felt the need to clarify. I find it interesting that people so readily express their disdain for an unsuccessful male, yet get upset when women are unsuccessful. Did anyone read the reviews of Knocked Up? People were pissed that the female Heigl's character was not much more than the vehicle for the main character's journey to maturity. It's HOLLYWOOD MOVIE, people! Some of the characters have to be two dimensional! Furthermore, it was a movie about the guy, not the girl. I'm upset that the stoned asian chick wasn't given a more complete role, and the horsie could've stood to be more fleshed out. While we're at it.

      On another note, I was at an art gallery, and a woman I didn't know commented on how "disgusting" the fat aged male that the artist chose to portray was, stating that "he probably can't even reach his penis." What the fuck is that? If some random guy walked up to a woman at an art exhibit, and decided to bond by saying, "I can't believe the artist chose to portray such a fat, disgusting woman. I bet she can't ever reach her vagina," I would be kicked out of the establishment.

      Poppycock, I tell you.
      --
      Please stop stalking me, bro.
  5. Solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    The solution is obviously to get rid of all the children.

  6. I wouldn't say moot by hedwards · · Score: 3, Insightful

    IANAL, but...

    Basically, the jurisdiction would never be in Ohio for websites, unless the site were doing business in Ohio.

    In order to have the jurisdiction be in Ohio, the website would have to do business in Ohio or have a reasonable expectation that the products were being shipped to Ohio. If they don't take orders from people that live in Ohio and have a disclaimer that people residing in the state are not allowed, they should be immune from prosecution in the state as none of the courts there would have jurisdiction over the matter.

    That definitely is not to say that people living in the state couldn't be prosecuted. Basically the only reason why offshore pornographers voluntarily submit to the age verification statutes is that it would represent a large loss of cash flow if they couldn't guarantee that they were in compliance with the letter of the law in the local jurisdiction. Hence the sites which aren't legally required to comply with our legislation doing so to avoid losing out to sites that will.

  7. I smell....a troll! by Mr.+Underbridge · · Score: 3, Informative

    As a pro feminist, I was in favor of the law. We really need to get rid of pornography. It is degrading to women and it severely cripples the feminist movement. Pornography is not an art form. It does not deserve protection. It is indecent and vile. It is time to "clean up the tubes." I am a shareholder of Time Warner. I have submitted a proposal for voting at the next shareholder meeting for Time Warner to only allow access to whitelisted sites by default and eventually become mandatory.

    *sniff sniff sniff*....I smell...*sniff sniff*....a troll!!!!!

    Clues that this was a troll:

    • Reference to tubes: Very nice, get a poke at Stevens while you're trolling.
    • Proposal for mandatory global whitelisting: nobody's that dumb.
    • Feminist on slashdot: How many actual women are on slashdot?
    • Posted AC.
    • Sig: who puts an actual sig in an AC post...except a troll?
    • Sig: a sig that has a link to Madonna in a feminist post...compared to a programming language? Hmmm....

    Great troll, by the way.

  8. in all my life by epine · · Score: 4, Interesting


    In all my life I've never seen a scientific study about what kind of content has the potential to harm children and why. I'm sure most of my adult peers managed to expose themselves to harmful content as children. Only the least enterprising children fail to accomplish this. And what is the end result? We're all convinced we came out fine, by the skin of our teeth, but the next child won't? What exactly was impared? Our gullibility? Our willingness to vote morons into power?

    Obviously there are some children who are adversely affected by coverage of the real world on the six o'clock news. But I have a feeling this bill is not targetted at that content.