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Amazon MP3 Vs. iTunes Music Store

Ali writes "As discussed here recently, amazon.com has launched a public beta of Amazon MP3, a digital music store that provides DRM-free downloads of over 2 million songs from 180,000 artists and 20,000 labels. In comparison, Apple says the iTunes Store now contains over 6 million songs. Here is a head-to-head comparison."

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  1. I choose Amazon (Prime) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I still like getting the actual CDs. Better quality, fewer restrictions, less chance of me losing it, etc. With Prime I get them in a couple days, which is fast enough for me, then I convert them to FLAC for later conversion to any other format I desire.

    1. Re:I choose Amazon (Prime) by NeMon'ess · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I suppose then you aren't one of those people who likes to listen to albums years after buying them? Or who likes to listen to music while reading a page? If I like an album a lot, I'm going to listen to it dozens of times. Ten to thirty hours of listening is worth five to ten dollars to me.

    2. Re:I choose Amazon (Prime) by 0123456789 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      They're so close to getting it right though; why not, when you order the CD from Amazon, allow you to download the MP3 while you're waiting for the 'couple of days' shipping?

  2. How about adding Spiralfrog & imeem by hedkandee · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Might be interesting to compare itunes vs amazon vs imeem vs spiralfrog - imeem.com and spirafrog are both free music services supported by advertising. imeem is a little like youtube but it has become more music orientated and allows users to listen to CD quality music on demand via a flash based player, they've signed sony,bmg and warner brothers on top of the usual mess of indie labels and whatever the users have uploaded. Spiralfrog allows downloads and has universal as their biggest label, but the downloads are DRM encapsulated windows media files which can be copied to mp3 players but not burned to CD, spiralfrog requires a special Active-X plugin so its windows + IE only. I wonder whether the average user will tolerate the restrictions in exchange for being free, or if they'll just stick with p2p downloads instead?

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  3. Re:Summary by arth1 · · Score: 1, Interesting

    * 1-Click shopping. People do not like creating new accounts for shopping, but there's no question that some people shop from Amazon over other venues purely because it's such a known quantity after years of easy ordering. Ordering via Amazon MP3 isn't as easy as from the iTunes Store, but it's not far off.

    And as long as Amazon holds on to their 1-click shopping patent, I (and many others) refuse to do business with them, but take our money elsewhere. Yes, there's still people who boycott them, seven years later, and the aggregate amount of money we have spent elsewhere is far from trivial.

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  4. iTunes Plus DRM free... by SuperKendall · · Score: 3, Interesting

    iTunes Plus is DRM free. However, it's unknown how many titles actually are offering using it (only EMI still and not all those titles) and the price is a little higher. The quality of a 256k AAC encode vs. a 256k MP# Amazon encode may be somewhat different, but at those bitrates it's probably basically indistinguishable.

    Sometimes though buying it from the iTunes store is simply more convenient... but I sure wish they'd hurry and expand iTunes Plus.

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  5. Amazon fails the random song comparison test by Gerald · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Song            Artist        Amazon  ITMS
    Genius of Love  Tom Tom Club  No      Yes

  6. Re:I'd rather go Amazon by timeOday · · Score: 1, Interesting

    the MP4 files that iTunes sells are not an Apple proprietary format? It's the codec developed to replace MP3. It was developed by the same freaking people who developed MP3
    Why don't they just offer mp3's then? A lot more people would want mp3's because they work with everything.
  7. Re:Redundant? by mochan_s · · Score: 2, Interesting

    What's the point of selling FLAC? You can just get the raw 44.1 Khz samples from the CD itself. And, FLAC doesn't play in mp3 players like iPod etc.

    What would be really cool would be 24 bit 96 khz (or higher) FLAC files for sale on online sites - and please no $5 per song, $1 a song. Maybe even promote 5.1 mixes and none of the peak mashing on CDs. Just a different mix for audiophile listeners.

    Would start a whole new excitement around music.

  8. Re:profit margin by Temposs · · Score: 3, Interesting

    There's at least one Indie label doing something like this. They sell some vinyls as well as CDs. The problem with selling a vinyl is of course that you can't easily make a digital copy of it. Here's how they sell the music of Page France:

    http://www.suicidesqueeze.net/order.html

    "Page France
    and the Family Telephone CD/LP...

    CD Price: $12.00

    LP Price: $10.00 (Limited edition! Comes with a coupon for a free download of the entire album in MP3 format.)"

    So basically, you pay less for the vinyl and get to download MP3s as well. Pretty good deal there.

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  9. Waiting for google to join the party by BlueParrot · · Score: 1, Interesting

    So how long do people think it is for Google to start a music downloading service? Lets me see...

    a)Bandwidth , check
    b)Storage capacity, check
    c)Revenue stream, check ( subscription / adds )
    d)Search, check
    e)Marketing, check
    f)...
    h)Profit! (I'm sincerely sorry, but it didn't feel right to leave it out.)

    Question is if they will write it themself or if they are waiting for somebody else to do the hard work so they can buy it.

  10. Re:What About Album Artwork? by confused_demon · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Album artwork is encoded in the MP3 tracks themselves.

    AAC is not really open, but it's a standard and pushed by the same people that made MP3 (it's the audio part of mp4), so it is at least as open as mp3. For this particular comparison amazonmp3 sells non-DRMed music for about 40% less than itunes, so that is a better comparison. As far as I know OGG is the only really 'open' standard. I'm already being rated as a troll in an earlier post for implying that all music that itunes sold is tied to ipods and you're f***ed if you ever try to switch away from apple manufactured players. For joe-blow users I think that the added steps to make itunes music work on a non-itunes player are enough to effectively lock them into ipods forever.

    non-DRMed music was available before itunes existed. I think the first non-DRMed music I bought online was from TMBG in the late 90's or early OO's (before cable modems and DSL was commonly available), after their 'major' label dropped them. At the time downloading the music from the internet was being pushed as 'bring-your-own-CD,' and the bandwith requirements were huge and it took the better part of a day to download it. non-DRMed music continued to be around for indie music and smaller labels.

    With regard to Apple & the music labels...I think that Apple's executive management has many people in common with major branches of the entertainment industry, so it's very complex to try to say which are which. The issue of DRM is tied up in the disputes between Apple (which was rapidly becoming the only stylish way to sell musich) and the major labels.

  11. Re:Drive customers away from Apple... by Planesdragon · · Score: 4, Interesting

    After that the next time the contracts are negotiated they raise the rates everywhere and require everyone to use whatever brand of DRM they see fit. And when neither Amazon nor Apple play ball, they give up and come back. Quietly.

    Heck, in that sort of situation Amazon and Apple could probably sue "them" for antitrust violations.
  12. Re:Redundant? by Fweeky · · Score: 2, Interesting

    What's the point of selling FLAC? You can just get the raw 44.1 Khz samples from the CD itself. Erm, because I can have a FLACed album in 12 minutes flat, while the CD will take anything from 2 days to 3 weeks to arrive, and will then demand effort ripping and finding space to store the hilariously oversized and redundant backup media?

    And, FLAC doesn't play in mp3 players like iPod etc. So fucking what? FLAC turns into ANY OTHER FORMAT. I can turn it into Apple Lossless, or MP3 or AAC or Vorbis or WMA or ATRAC or anything else I have an encoder for, and I can do it as often as I want to as many different formats and bitrates as I want. I can pick different formats for my 4G iPod, my 60G laptop, what I might stream over the Internet or my crappy WiFi, and anything else I might want in future, ever.

    Unless you're selling music incredibly cheaply, FLAC or WavPack or similar are the only formats I'm interested in buying music as.
  13. Re:Bad info in article. by marhar · · Score: 2, Interesting
    So even slashdotters are uanble to use their site successfully... It took me way too long to figure out that URL. Tried a few approaches, but every single one of them seemes to slam a huge ad and trying to make me write my credit card number to get something "for free".



    It's even worse... I had signed up for an emusic account then cancelled. After a couple of months, I got a "welcome back" email. I Clicked through the link in the email to get the details, only to find myself resubscribed with my old credit card. It took quite a few emails to set that straight!