Check imeem.com - they're doing the whole advertising thing with all the major labels and a lot of the indies giving the green light. The only difference with what your saying is that the artist doesn't need to do anything more than registering their music and allowing their music to be played on the site, since the music on imeem.com is uploaded by its users the artist need never even visit imeem.com, if they have enough fans they'll just start getting royalty checks.... or more likely their label will get the checks and take their cut first.
But all the big record labels (and a lot of small record labels) have signed deals saying it's OK to upload your ripped music to imeem.com so you can share it - just like you shared that clip from 'Top Gear' on youtube. I mean I'm sure there's no specific mention in those contracts regarding the source of the mp3/ogg/m4a/wma files that users can upload, but I'd imagine that since you can't buy mp3 downloads from many labels you only option is to either rip or download the file.
IANAL but these deals by the RIAA members sure seem to condone ripping as the most legitimate path to using imeem.
But I've come to expect that people as a rule ignore the genius of Jeff Minter's psychedelic gaming opus.
A game that is unfairly ignored by players and hated by amateur gamers who don't 'get' it - there's no justice in this world, well except for the french filter disco band Justice....
Snocap is also getting into the advertising supported music business with their imeem deal, but this may be too late for snocap, imeem has only just got deals with all the major labels in the US and even with a top 100 website they aren't going to be supporting snocap based on this one deal
imeem has a deal with snocap and is using their audio fingerprinting technology to figure out who owns the copyright on all the music that users upload and who gets paid. Perhaps snocap just has to wait a few more months until imeem's growth brings in some real revenues for snocap, but even this deal makes them more attractive to potential buyers.
Conspiracy theorists might raise the possibility that myspace might make a point of purchasing snocap because (a) snocap has a deal with them and (b) they could directly attack imeem.com which is diving headlong into their business by offering the artists a better deal than myspace ever has. While imeem has been paing artists who have their music shared on the site, myspace has resited allowing artists to make anything off music plays on their myspace pages. Myspace has been banning the string 'imeem.com' from their pages for most of this year, so it doesn't sound so ridiculous that they might borrow some more cash from newscorp just to inconvenience a rappidly growing competitor.
I have everything by the Beatles and Zeppelin on vinyl, and I don't give a shit about Garth Brooks. So, all the big things are taken care of regardless.
Write a wikipedia article about it, if wikipedians can spend enough time writing about document editing patterns then maybe they can lift the editing rate back to its former glories
imeem, qtrax, deezer, and spiralfrog are 3 companies who are trying to deliver music for free, supported by ads - either as on demand streams or DRM downloads. And before you start with the 'oh but...' many of the sites are offering CD quality versions, not low bitrate crap
When the news came out last week about imeem signing a deal with Sony/BMG the same story also revealed that EMI was talking with imeem about the same kind of deal and so were Vivendi. So with a bit of luck we should soon see all major artists* available for free on imeem, assuming you can find them of course - the labels are supposedly getting a chunk of the ad revenue from the site.
* Except of course for the Beatles, Radiohead and other artists who haven't signed up for the usual digital distibution deals.
Most casual users downloading music and video from p2p networks aren't looking for permanent copies they just want to listen to a track or watch a tv show so more and more people I know are now using websites for their music and video. youtube.com has a ton of deals in place for legal content sharing and for music imeem.com has advertising sharing deals with music industry titans like Sony, Warners and BMG.
Why download when you can just go to a website, type in a band's name and instantly listen to their music for free?
Sony/BMG just signed a deal with imeem.com which gives them a share of imeem's advertising in exchange for streaming rights to sony's records. No I'll bet that none of you have used imeem so I'll explain why this no-rip statement conflicts with the deal.
Imeem is basicly 'youtube for music' users upload music from thei favourite artists and anyone on imeem can listen to them - providing the music is something that imeem has the rights to stream. But wait, where would users get mp3s (or oggs) from Sony to make this work?
Maybe they'd prefer users download from p2p networks instead of ripping?
Might be interesting to compare itunes vs amazon vs imeem vs spiralfrog - imeem.com and spirafrog are both free music services supported by advertising. imeem is a little like youtube but it has become more music orientated and allows users to listen to CD quality music on demand via a flash based player, they've signed sony,bmg and warner brothers on top of the usual mess of indie labels and whatever the users have uploaded. Spiralfrog allows downloads and has universal as their biggest label, but the downloads are DRM encapsulated windows media files which can be copied to mp3 players but not burned to CD, spiralfrog requires a special Active-X plugin so its windows + IE only. I wonder whether the average user will tolerate the restrictions in exchange for being free, or if they'll just stick with p2p downloads instead?
Apple make a point of shutting out third party software for anaging iPods, there's a company - digital DA I think - which offers a DRM media solution for the iPod buit off their independent research, but nobody has signed on for fear of getting sued by apple, if you want to play with the iPod you have to go through ITMS
imeem does it for me, it is streaming ony but the streams appear to be cd quality. They're kinda like a music version of youtube where fans upload their favourite music and anyone can listen. A few months ago they had a few deals with the usual indie labels but Warner brothers started suing them over thhe usual coyright infringement BS, I don't know how they did it but after a load of meeting Warners dropped the case and signed on as their first big name partner. A year ago I'd have never believed it but times are changing and Warners probably think they can make more money in the long term off the ad revenue on imeem than they can by suing them out of business.
'They told us that MySpace is over, it's just not cool anymore; Facebook is still cool, but that might not last much longer; and the biggest thing in their life is word of mouth.'
Thank god, I always hated myspace.
"The clip was from a British show called "Britain's Got Talent," a version of "American Idol." Despite its popularity, Rubin has never seen "American Idol," and he had never heard of Simon Cowell, who is a judge on both programs."
no no no - "Britain's Got Talent" unsurprisingly enough is the british version of "America's Got Talent" - both shows debuted at the same time and are produced by Simon Cowell
American Idol of course is the American version of the british show 'Pop Idol', yes the brits are resposible for bringing the awfulness of this show into the world.
Sure I've tried last.fm, but I prefer imeem since it has a more extensive music selection.
In my mind the listenability goes something along the lines of
last.fm & imeem.com > bbc radio > NPR > internet radio > US commercial radio > Soviet Propaganda radio > American Idol
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Check imeem.com - they're doing the whole advertising thing with all the major labels and a lot of the indies giving the green light. The only difference with what your saying is that the artist doesn't need to do anything more than registering their music and allowing their music to be played on the site, since the music on imeem.com is uploaded by its users the artist need never even visit imeem.com, if they have enough fans they'll just start getting royalty checks.... or more likely their label will get the checks and take their cut first.
But all the big record labels (and a lot of small record labels) have signed deals saying it's OK to upload your ripped music to imeem.com so you can share it - just like you shared that clip from 'Top Gear' on youtube. I mean I'm sure there's no specific mention in those contracts regarding the source of the mp3/ogg/m4a/wma files that users can upload, but I'd imagine that since you can't buy mp3 downloads from many labels you only option is to either rip or download the file.
IANAL but these deals by the RIAA members sure seem to condone ripping as the most legitimate path to using imeem.
But I've come to expect that people as a rule ignore the genius of Jeff Minter's psychedelic gaming opus. A game that is unfairly ignored by players and hated by amateur gamers who don't 'get' it - there's no justice in this world, well except for the french filter disco band Justice....
Snocap is also getting into the advertising supported music business with their imeem deal, but this may be too late for snocap, imeem has only just got deals with all the major labels in the US and even with a top 100 website they aren't going to be supporting snocap based on this one deal
imeem has a deal with snocap and is using their audio fingerprinting technology to figure out who owns the copyright on all the music that users upload and who gets paid. Perhaps snocap just has to wait a few more months until imeem's growth brings in some real revenues for snocap, but even this deal makes them more attractive to potential buyers. Conspiracy theorists might raise the possibility that myspace might make a point of purchasing snocap because (a) snocap has a deal with them and (b) they could directly attack imeem.com which is diving headlong into their business by offering the artists a better deal than myspace ever has. While imeem has been paing artists who have their music shared on the site, myspace has resited allowing artists to make anything off music plays on their myspace pages. Myspace has been banning the string 'imeem.com' from their pages for most of this year, so it doesn't sound so ridiculous that they might borrow some more cash from newscorp just to inconvenience a rappidly growing competitor.
I have everything by the Beatles and Zeppelin on vinyl, and I don't give a shit about Garth Brooks. So, all the big things are taken care of regardless.
because I've spent enough time whining about those
Write a wikipedia article about it, if wikipedians can spend enough time writing about document editing patterns then maybe they can lift the editing rate back to its former glories
imeem, qtrax, deezer, and spiralfrog are 3 companies who are trying to deliver music for free, supported by ads - either as on demand streams or DRM downloads. And before you start with the 'oh but...' many of the sites are offering CD quality versions, not low bitrate crap
How about Let users listen to full length previews of all their music in exchange for advertising. A few websites seem to think this is the way to go.
When the news came out last week about imeem signing a deal with Sony/BMG the same story also revealed that EMI was talking with imeem about the same kind of deal and so were Vivendi. So with a bit of luck we should soon see all major artists* available for free on imeem, assuming you can find them of course - the labels are supposedly getting a chunk of the ad revenue from the site. * Except of course for the Beatles, Radiohead and other artists who haven't signed up for the usual digital distibution deals.
Most casual users downloading music and video from p2p networks aren't looking for permanent copies they just want to listen to a track or watch a tv show so more and more people I know are now using websites for their music and video. youtube.com has a ton of deals in place for legal content sharing and for music imeem.com has advertising sharing deals with music industry titans like Sony, Warners and BMG. Why download when you can just go to a website, type in a band's name and instantly listen to their music for free?
Sony/BMG just signed a deal with imeem.com which gives them a share of imeem's advertising in exchange for streaming rights to sony's records. No I'll bet that none of you have used imeem so I'll explain why this no-rip statement conflicts with the deal. Imeem is basicly 'youtube for music' users upload music from thei favourite artists and anyone on imeem can listen to them - providing the music is something that imeem has the rights to stream. But wait, where would users get mp3s (or oggs) from Sony to make this work? Maybe they'd prefer users download from p2p networks instead of ripping?
Might be interesting to compare itunes vs amazon vs imeem vs spiralfrog - imeem.com and spirafrog are both free music services supported by advertising. imeem is a little like youtube but it has become more music orientated and allows users to listen to CD quality music on demand via a flash based player, they've signed sony,bmg and warner brothers on top of the usual mess of indie labels and whatever the users have uploaded. Spiralfrog allows downloads and has universal as their biggest label, but the downloads are DRM encapsulated windows media files which can be copied to mp3 players but not burned to CD, spiralfrog requires a special Active-X plugin so its windows + IE only. I wonder whether the average user will tolerate the restrictions in exchange for being free, or if they'll just stick with p2p downloads instead?
Apple make a point of shutting out third party software for anaging iPods, there's a company - digital DA I think - which offers a DRM media solution for the iPod buit off their independent research, but nobody has signed on for fear of getting sued by apple, if you want to play with the iPod you have to go through ITMS
Maybe we can report a bug in windows version numbers, I never figured out what happend to windows 4-94, 96, 97 and 99-1999
imeem does it for me, it is streaming ony but the streams appear to be cd quality. They're kinda like a music version of youtube where fans upload their favourite music and anyone can listen. A few months ago they had a few deals with the usual indie labels but Warner brothers started suing them over thhe usual coyright infringement BS, I don't know how they did it but after a load of meeting Warners dropped the case and signed on as their first big name partner. A year ago I'd have never believed it but times are changing and Warners probably think they can make more money in the long term off the ad revenue on imeem than they can by suing them out of business.
SO are you saying all that ps3 power is useless without the generic x86 clients processing their output?
Toilet humor and violence, oh and a massive game world worked wonders for GTA and the sequels
With all those (crappy bitrate admittedly) videos they must have a fair chunk of data lying around
I'm sure GWB's aspirational goal was to turn Iraq into a secular democracy...
'They told us that MySpace is over, it's just not cool anymore; Facebook is still cool, but that might not last much longer; and the biggest thing in their life is word of mouth.' Thank god, I always hated myspace.
"The clip was from a British show called "Britain's Got Talent," a version of "American Idol." Despite its popularity, Rubin has never seen "American Idol," and he had never heard of Simon Cowell, who is a judge on both programs." no no no - "Britain's Got Talent" unsurprisingly enough is the british version of "America's Got Talent" - both shows debuted at the same time and are produced by Simon Cowell American Idol of course is the American version of the british show 'Pop Idol', yes the brits are resposible for bringing the awfulness of this show into the world.
Sure I've tried last.fm, but I prefer imeem since it has a more extensive music selection. In my mind the listenability goes something along the lines of last.fm & imeem.com > bbc radio > NPR > internet radio > US commercial radio > Soviet Propaganda radio > American Idol
When is OOlite going to let me fly the voyager probes? I fancy mounting a military laser on those suckers!