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GAO Report Slams FCC

eldavojohn writes "The Government Accountability Office (GAO) has made a report available today that was requested a year ago by a Democratic senator that finds the Federal Communications Commissions has been favoring lobbyists a little too much. 'The report says that some people at the commission warn lobbyists when a particular issue is about to come up for a vote. Typically, the commission chairman circulates an item for vote three weeks before a meeting. Under the rules of the FCC, meeting agendas are published one week before a vote is scheduled. Once the agenda is published lobbying is banned. The report says that the two-week window allows lobbyist plenty of time to "maximize their impact."'"

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  1. Accountability! by cez · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The FCC responded to the report saying that it feels its processes are always open and transparent and that Chairman Kevin Martin is looking for ways to make the commissions workings even more transparent and open.
    Of course they feel that way. I feellike I should get a million dollars for this post. That doesn't make it happen.


    The GAO obviously feels like they are not transparent, as the report indicates. How bout some actual accountability from the Government Accountability Office now? What are they going to do about it?


    Besides hurting their feelings

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    1. Re:Accountability! by SatanicPuppy · · Score: 4, Insightful

      That's not their job. They're not supposed to have enforcement power. Not that it's not an attractive mental image to have an elite squad of GAO commando's busting into an FCC meeting, grabbing corrupt politicians and hauling their asses off to PMTA prison, but that's not what they do.

      A congressman asks the GAO, "Hey is playing fair? Are they doing what they're supposed to do?"

      GAO does some research, and responds, "Nope."

      Then Congress has the opportunity to bust out massive whoopass, slash their funding, sell their children into slavery, etc, etc...They have the ability to do all kinds of enforcement, and even pass it up the line to the executive, who can call in the commandos, etc.

      Though they probably won't do anything, because when does Congress ever do anything good? But they could, and that's how the system is supposed to work.

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    2. Re:Accountability! by Fulcrum+of+Evil · · Score: 2, Insightful

      They have the ability to do all kinds of enforcement, and even pass it up the line to the executive, who can call in the commandos, etc.

      Up the line? Don't you mean down the line? The executive is supposed to be weaker than the legislative.

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  2. A little too much? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    the Federal Communications Commissions has been favoring lobbyists a little too much
    "a little too much" ? Isn't that like saying "the government is committing crimes a little too much" ?

    Any amount of favoring lobbyists is a problem. I'm not saying lobbyists can't exist. But the (idealized) purpose of a lobbyist is to bring pertinent information and arguments to the attention of political officials. They should have no political influence beyond the persuasiveness of their arguments and the truthfulness of the data they present.

    Perhaps I'm getting overly agitated by a simple little comment... but I am troubled by the fact that people increasingly accept that lobbyists will be able to influence the democratic process, and that their influence has to be balanced against other influences (e.g. voter opinion). This is not how it should be! Lobbyists should have no influence per se. As I said, the only thing that should matter is valid arguments about what is best for the populace.
    1. Re:A little too much? by ObiWanStevobi · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Well, in theory, lobbyist are a healthy part of a representative democracy. Lobbyists do in fact represent a certain number of people, giving them a greater voice. That's pretty much how the House of Representatives works. Each district sends a lobbyist to lobby on behalf of that section of people. I'd say lobbyists are even a better idea, because they are supported by people who all have a common cause, not just a by-chance geographical proximity.

      However, the problem with lobbyists today is that their influence is not determined by the number of people they represent, but how much money they move. For example, one lobbyist supported by Bill Gates could have more power than one backed by a million Linux supporters. AT that point government is not representative by people, but by money.

      The problem is not the practice of lobbying, but the endless need for money to campaign with. Since we don't have any effective spending limits and flimsy donation rules, the problem can only get worse.

    2. Re:A little too much? by dkf · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The problem is not the practice of lobbying, but the endless need for money to campaign with. Since we don't have any effective spending limits and flimsy donation rules, the problem can only get worse. In other words, this is transforming a Representative Democracy into a Plutocracy (and an Oligarchic one at that, though that doesn't follow from what you said).
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    3. Re:A little too much? by Smidge204 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      That's what the FCC is supposed to do. That's what it was created to do: Make sure everybody's toys will play nice with everybody else's toys.

      Unfortunately, there are two other functions the FCC performs: One is to effectively act as a national censorship bureau. I fail to see any real need for a federal agency with the power to create AND enforce "decency laws" for public broadcast media.

      The other is to act as an overseeing body for companies that deal with the first two functions (EM spectrum and public media). This is another bullshit function IMHO, and in context of this article the most blatantly corrupt seen in the federal government in a long while.

      Regulating the radio frequencies is good and useful. We do not need a federal nanny and corporate shill along with it.
      =Smidge=

  3. Re:Government & Business by purpledinoz · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A perfect example, the merger between XM and Sirius. The NAB (National Association of Broadcasting) is heavily lobbying against this merger, because that would mean a stronger competitor. And the result? The merger has been debated for months, and it's still going on. In the meantime, other huge mergers have been approved within a week.

  4. Re:So what's the problem? by Opportunist · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Contrary to corporates' ideas, the market consists of supplyers and demanders.

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  5. Re:Oxymoron Finder says.... by Opportunist · · Score: 2, Insightful

    C'mon, what a chance to use "Microsoft Works" and you let it slip.

    I wonder if there's a slot in standup comedy for IT-related jokes...

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  6. As the song says.... by Cleon · · Score: 3, Insightful
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  7. Perfect examples - add yours here by Zondar · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Verizon FIOS and the 'disconnecting copper' claims. FCC looks the other way.

    Broadband over Power Line and all the resultant RF interference... FCC manipulates measurement techniques, breaks it's own rules... Even international organizations say BPL causes excessive RF interference. FCC looks the other way. FCC brought to court.

  8. business and government are run by aliens? by Quadraginta · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Who do you suppose "lobbyists" represent? Aliens from Mars?

    "Lobbyist" is just a short way to say "a representative of a group of citizens who all have some common interest and pool their money to hire someone to let elected officials know how they feel (and will vote)." Business groups (like oil companies) have lobbyists, and so do unions (like the UAW, CWA, or AFL-CIO), and so do consumer groups, environmental groups, senior citizens' groups, animal breeder groups, Jewish groups, Muslim and evangelist groups, pro- and anti-immigration groups, pro- and anti-gun control groups, PETA and cattle ranchers, et cetera and so forth.

    Or are you thinking "citizens" means only those folks who have no "business" interests at all? Folks without a job, who own nothing? Teenagers living in mom's basement?

    In the real adult world, we all have economic interests. If we're employed in the radio industry -- making radios, selling radios, selling products on radio shows, hosting radio shows, reporting on the news, et cetera and so forth -- or if we make use of the radio industry -- we listen to radio shows and watch TV, or we use cell phones -- then we have opinions about how the FCC should regulate use of the airwaves. Almost certainly conflicting opinions.

    Do you feel those opinions should not be presented forcefully to the government bureaucrats who make decisions affecting our interests? Should we just wait around, silent and respectful, while our betters on the FCC tell us what's good for us? Should every one of us who wants to be heard be forced to take time off from work to fly out to Washington to testify every time the FCC holds hearings (every four weeks, maybe)? Or does it sound kinda' reasonable and economical if a bunch of us with similar interests and opinions might hire some good talker to go to Washington and make our case for us on a regular basis? Which is what lobbying is.

    Maybe what you're doing, in the hysterical spirit of the times, is confusing lobbying ("speaking up about what you want to your elected officials") with corruption (bribing elected officials). They're not the same. For one thing, the latter is a crime. For another, it's inherently anti-democratic, whereas there's very little more democratic than groups of citizens vying for influence through their freely chosen representatives (i.e. those evil lobbyists).

    1. Re:business and government are run by aliens? by walshy007 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      unfortunately.. I believe your confusing the way lobbying SHOULD work, with the way it works in practice.

    2. Re:business and government are run by aliens? by Knara · · Score: 4, Insightful

      unfortunately.. I believe your confusing the way lobbying SHOULD work, with the way it works in practice.

      Correct. While the poster presents an excellent view of how lobbying would work in a perfect world, in reality lobbyists are quite often highly paid contractors that express the desires of a relatively small number of people who have large amount of resources directed towards legislative action that directly benefits themselves, not the population as a whole.

    3. Re:business and government are run by aliens? by Knara · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Actually corporations are interesting legal fictions that have some limited "personhood", except without the natural lifetime restrains of a human being.

      Again, you have some idealistic ideas of how this whole thing works, but in actuality those spending the most amount of money on lobbying are not concerned citizens or corporations made of politically active workers, but rather very narrowly populated corporate leadership populations making a concerted effort to encourage legislation that furthers their interest, and hopefully to the detriment of their competitors' and/or opponents interests. This is, of course, done because it furthers the shareholders' interests, but nonetheless, the rosy picture you paint of corporate social structures is... shall we say... idealistic?

      We worked fine without corporations for a long time between Neanderthals (which we likely never were, btw) and the modern day. Companies served that function just fine, though corporations do provide some useful legal shielding to their constituents/leadership.

    4. Re:business and government are run by aliens? by big_paul76 · · Score: 1, Insightful

      OK, but when most people say "lobbyists", what they're actually talking about is a system by which we have basically institutionalized corruption, in that those with more financial resources have better access to lawmakers.

      Furthermore, I'd like to come down on the side rejecting categorically the notion that _everything_ is interest based.

      Yes, most of us have interests, economic or otherwise. But can there be no space, in government, for someone to take the dis-interested point of view, that is, to be concerned with the common good?

      Let me pose this question for you: Where does legitimacy of government come from? Does it come from groups, or from citizens? If the basis of legitimacy is through groups and group membership, that's not democracy.

      Yes, it's reasonable for citizens to assemble into groups and suggest this or that policy direction to lawmakers, but let's not pretend that that's all that's going on with professional paid lobbyists. Corruption has become routine, not exceptional.

      This nicely illustrates a common problem these days - that it seems to be difficult to make illegal that which is unethical.

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    5. Re:business and government are run by aliens? by cyber-dragon.net · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Your argument, as many have pointed out... is based in an ideal fantasy of what our Government should be. Bill Gates may only be allowed to donate a couple grand PERSONALLY, but every non-profit, company etc he exerts enough influence over to dictate policy (i.e. a few hundred more than likely) can EACH give a politician a couple grand. Adds up fast, and making one man happy for that much money is a hell of a lot easier than make lots of people happy for a $10 each (the most a politician can realistically hope to get from any given person). Oh and while your campaign might only get a couple grand... your "Friends of" organization gets a large check as well, several schools in your district all of a sudden get software and/or hardware donations with your name on them etc etc. All perfectly legal.

      The second difference is he can do it over and over again whereas the common man is lucky to be capable of donating at that level once. This means while you may get a smile for your $10, Gates can (and will) buy every politician he can based on them voting his way.

      Here is where the career politician becomes a VERY bad idea. If you are a politician and will only serve one term... you can take anyone's money who will give it to you, then vote however you like as it won't matter once you are done. You accept money from someone like Gates and he holds it over you all through your term with the threat of no more money next time you run.

      I know this for a fact as I worked on a political campaign for a California Senator in college when Microsoft was trying to buy themselves out of antitrust trouble and sat in on the meeting where MS reps offered him a rather substantial bribe if he would help make it go away. They covered it in diplomatic double talk of course but the gist was he agreed to help save their ass they would cover a large portion of his campaign. Something to the tune of 1/6 the money he needed to finish the race, and we were half way. To his credit he told them to shove off, but I doubt very many would.

      More recently they tried to buy themselves a standard via politicians. Show me a single person who can create that much influence over the policy of that many countries and I will buy your version.

  9. Rock on, GAO! by DoofusOfDeath · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Is it just me, or has the GAO been a bright ray of honesty and objectivity in a government that otherwise continuously erodes our respect?