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Purpose of Appendix Believed Found

CambodiaSam sent in this story, which opens: "Some scientists think they have figured out the real job of the troublesome and seemingly useless appendix: It produces and protects good germs for your gut. That's the theory from surgeons and immunologists at Duke University Medical School, published online in a scientific journal this week. For generations the appendix has been dismissed as superfluous. Doctors figured it had no function. Surgeons removed them routinely. People live fine without them. The function of the appendix seems related to the massive amount of bacteria populating the human digestive system, according to the study in the Journal of Theoretical Biology. There are more bacteria than human cells in the typical body. Most are good and help digest food. But sometimes the flora of bacteria in the intestines die or are purged. Diseases such as cholera or amoebic dysentery would clear the gut of useful bacteria. The appendix's job is to reboot the digestive system in that case."

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  1. Polio, Asthma & Allergies by eldavojohn · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I have studied little biology or medical subjects though I've read studies about this same sort of thing happening with asthma, polio & allergies. I think I've posted about this before but anecdotally I noticed there were no farmers who had allergies or asthma as I grew up and worked on farms with them. The young kids would play in hay and run around in the mud outside when it rained. So it seems that a problem with being an overly hygienic society today (as the article notes) is that we don't expose our young to these pathogens early on so they never adapt to them and suffer exposure to them later. This is why I recommend against anyone installing an air purifier in their home. It's a great idea--if you never plan on leaving your home.

    I can't find the research but I thought a long time ago that a German study was done to find out why polio was "a middle class disease." If I recall they found that poor children were exposed to it since birth and rarely suffered from it since they were exposed to it always. The middle class children would be protected as infants but once exposed to it, their bodies would not be able to fight it. The upper class would take all costs to reduce exposure to it at all times--and they could.

    Now this research is interestingly related in that appendicitis may be something that occurs due to our lack of exposure to diseases that destroy all the germs in our body (cholera & certain types of dysentery). Should something happen that would threaten this, our bodies respond poorly to it and the appendix flares up. As this article notes, appendicitis occurs less frequently in underdeveloped countries. Perhaps this is more reinforcement for the idea that protecting your children from germs is a double edged sword.

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    1. Re:Polio, Asthma & Allergies by paleo2002 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I have studied (some) biology, especially from an evolutionary perspective. There are aspects of our immune system that deal with macroscopic threats - parasites, foreign bodies, etc. In modern, industrialized society intestinal parasites and unremoved splinters aren't really a problem so a part of our immune system is left with very little to do. Like a bored child or pet, our immune system goes looking for something to do. It overreacts to pollen, proteins in common foods, and animal dander.

      With the proliferation of antibacterial products, I worry about two things. In the short term, what kind of new allergies will people develop as chemistry continues to replace people's immune systems? In the long term, what kind of backlash are we going to see when microbes begin to develop some sort of resistance to alcohol and other antibacterial agents?

    2. Re:Polio, Asthma & Allergies by eldavojohn · · Score: 2, Funny

      With the proliferation of antibacterial products, I worry about two things. In the short term, what kind of new allergies will people develop as chemistry continues to replace people's immune systems? In the long term, what kind of backlash are we going to see when microbes begin to develop some sort of resistance to alcohol and other antibacterial agents? Precisely the idea behind a story I submitted a while ago cautioning the use of antibacterial soap--especially since the truth is it does little or nothing more than regular soap.

      I could spout more of my fears of an overly medicated, overly hygienic society but my neck is really sore from the tinfoil fortress atop my head. :-) Well, at least I still have my freedom of choice not to take Tylenol when I have a headache, a glass of scotch usually fixes it better anyways.
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    3. Re:Polio, Asthma & Allergies by NotoriousHood · · Score: 5, Informative

      I was also worried about bacteria adapting to alcohol etc.

      From my research and discussions with doctors etc I've come to learn that bacteria adapt to antibiotics because these agents are very precise and destroy a very narrow type of microorganism, whereas alcohol, chlorine bleach, and all other cleaning agents wipe everything out. There has been no (to my knowledge) increase in resistance to bleach used in the kitchen for instance. It would be like gaining resistance to fire. The properties of these antibacterial agents is just too violent against the cell for evolution to do anything about it.

      I'm sure this could have been said better, but basically antibacterial soap will not create super-deadly strains of bacteria, whereas continued use of antibiotics has and will.

    4. Re:Polio, Asthma & Allergies by tomhudson · · Score: 4, Funny

      > "I was also worried about bacteria adapting to alcohol etc. "

      ... they do ... where do you think all those ugly bacteria come from? Bacteria in bars, seeing other bacteria through beer-bottle goggles, breeding, then trying to gnaw their cilia off the next morning because their mate is coyote-ugly ...

    5. Re:Polio, Asthma & Allergies by king-manic · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I have studied little biology or medical subjects though I've read studies about this same sort of thing happening with asthma, polio & allergies. I think I've posted about this before but anecdotally I noticed there were no farmers who had allergies or asthma as I grew up and worked on farms with them. The young kids would play in hay and run around in the mud outside when it rained. So it seems that a problem with being an overly hygienic society today (as the article notes) is that we don't expose our young to these pathogens early on so they never adapt to them and suffer exposure to them later. This is why I recommend against anyone installing an air purifier in their home. It's a great idea--if you never plan on leaving your home.

      I can't find the research but I thought a long time ago that a German study was done to find out why polio was "a middle class disease." If I recall they found that poor children were exposed to it since birth and rarely suffered from it since they were exposed to it always. The middle class children would be protected as infants but once exposed to it, their bodies would not be able to fight it. The upper class would take all costs to reduce exposure to it at all times--and they could.

      Now this research is interestingly related in that appendicitis may be something that occurs due to our lack of exposure to diseases that destroy all the germs in our body (cholera & certain types of dysentery). Should something happen that would threaten this, our bodies respond poorly to it and the appendix flares up. As this article notes, appendicitis occurs less frequently in underdeveloped countries. Perhaps this is more reinforcement for the idea that protecting your children from germs is a double edged sword.


      The other way to interpret it is that people with severe allergies and who would suffer from polio are exposed to it early and die. As most of the groups outlined have higher infant mortality. It may not be a full explanation but it's certainly a contributing factor. From a evolutionary standpoint those who would have died from allergies/polio/germs due to a weaker system survive in "middle class" society and thus what is rare among the lower class amplifies overtime in the middle class until it reaches soem steady state %.

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    6. Re:Polio, Asthma & Allergies by JanneM · · Score: 4, Interesting

      It's a little trickier than that. It is clear life in general is very good at adapting to just about anything; there's been experiments done where microorganisms have ben pressured to adapt to conditions no less bad than bleach. But a lot of people forget that most adaptations also have negative effects. And if the bad condition is rare enough then it may simply not be worth it, evolutionary speaking, to adapt to it.

      There's a beetle on the British isles that lays its eggs in shallow water. So the female flies around, looking for small water collections (small lakes, ponds, that sort of thing) in which to lay her eggs. But her detection system is simplistic, mainly looking for ground surfaces of a certain size that polarize light. And that includes stuff like wet asphalt and newly washed cars. So there's a lot of beetles diving right into newly clean cars, making a mess at the very least opportune moment.

      But even without cars and asphalt, it's pretty clear her detection system is on the rough side. The reason they don't have better "pond detectors" is most likely that the current one is good enough; a lot of the beetles do hit good water, and a more complex system would penalize the individuals with it (in energy and development time as juveniles if nothing else) more than they'd gain by being more precise with their egg-laying attempts.

      Similarly, from a bacterias point of view, a disinfected surface is rare - really rare. Any adaptation to in with even a slightly negative side effect is likely to disappear unless the individuals and their offspring can rely on staying in that environment for a long time, making it a separate niche. Which they can't since a disinfected surface normally doesn't stay that way. There is no long-term survival benefit in being good at surviving that environment.

      This is why cutting down on antibiotic use would not just slow down resistance, but can actually reverse it. Make the antibiotic rare enough and resistance genes won't remain.

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    7. Re:Polio, Asthma & Allergies by tmosley · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Bacteria can't develop resistance to alcohol without becoming something other than bacteria. If they could, humanity would never have become civilized. Much of the problem with living together in large communities is finding clean water. The easiest way to turn infested water into something you can drink is by fermenting it into an alcoholic beverage. Other antibiotics are more prone to causing immunity, as they attack specific proteins and such, tearing the membrane open. Ethanol just penetrates the membrane and changes the characteristics of the cellular medium, killing the cell.

    8. Re:Polio, Asthma & Allergies by Lurker2288 · · Score: 3, Informative

      It's more a function of the fact that antibiotics attack a very definite metabolic activity that's vital for the bacterium to survive. The beta-lactams (think penicillin) interfere with the production of the peptidoglycan cell wall, whereas others interfere with bacterial protein synthesis. So, if the cell can come up with something to negate this attack (pumping the antibiotic out before it can do any damage, producing a protein that neutralizes the antibiotic) then it becomes resistant. On the contrary, something like bleach or alcohol massively disrupts the cell and kills it in a variety of ways all at once.

      I like your fire analogy, though. Very apt.

    9. Re:Polio, Asthma & Allergies by scottv67 · · Score: 5, Informative
      I think I've posted about this before but anecdotally I noticed there were no farmers who had allergies or asthma as I grew up and worked on farms with them.

      I think you may have it backwards: You are saying that there are no farmers with asthma because working on a farm prevents asthma. It's more likely that there are no farmers with asthma because people with asthma do not become farmers. Even though I (someone who has had asthma my entire life) have helped bale hay, milk cows and shovel manure, there is no way that I would *think* of becoming a farmer. Wearing a dust mask while baling hay or doing other chores on the farm is no fun. Being in the barn without some sort of mask is a surefire recipe for having a meeting with Mr. Albuterol later in the day.

      I could come-up with a parallel to your "I've never known farmers with asthma" story by saying "I've never seen a one-armed crab fisherman on the Discovery TV show "Deadliest Catch". I could infer from watch the Deadliest Catch that crab fishing must be a pretty safe line of work because there are no one-armed guys working the crab pots. The reality is there are no one-armed crab fisherman because the one-armed guys do not sign-up for a job that they know would be extremely hazardous for them to do with just one arm.

      This is why I recommend against anyone installing an air purifier in their home. It's a great idea--if you never plan on leaving your home.

      I'm sorry, I didn't catch the name of the medical school you graduated from or where you did your residency in allergy/asthma. Could you post that information one more time? I have an IQAir HealthPro Plus http://www.iqair.us/residential/roomairpurifiers/healthproplus.php that runs in my bedroom every night. That air purifier filters the dust, pollen and other allergens out of air inside my house so that I can breathe more easily - especially during the spring and fall when thing like tree pollen, ragweed and alternaria are bad. The indoor air purifiers also help when local "air quality alerts" are issued. Even if the air outside is filled with small pollutants that are harmful to my lungs, I can come home at the end of the day, run the IQAir and have decent breathable air.

      Here is a little more background on local air quality issues:
      http://dnr.wi.gov/org/aw/air/health/status.asp

      The watch is being issued because of the forecast for elevated levels of fine particles in the air. Fine particle pollution is composed of microscopic dust, soot, liquid droplets and smoke particles that are 2.5 microns or smaller. These fine particles come primarily from combustion sources, such as power plants, factories and other industrial sources, vehicle exhaust, and outdoor fires.

      The Air Quality Index is forecast to reach the orange level, which is considered unhealthy for people in sensitive groups. People in those sensitive groups include those with heart or lung disease, asthma, older adults and children. When an air quality watch is issued, people in those groups are advised to reschedule or cut back on strenuous activities during the watch period.

      People with lung diseases such as asthma and bronchitis and heart disease should pay attention to cardiac symptoms like chest pain and shortness of breath or respiratory symptoms like coughing, wheezing and discomfort when taking a breath, and consult with their physician if they have concerns or are experiencing symptoms. Fine particle pollution deposits itself deep into the lungs and cannot easily be exhaled. People who are at risk are particularly vulnerable after several days of high particle pollution exposure.

      Regarding your comment about air purifiers being a bad idea,

      It's a great idea--if you never plan on leaving your home.

      I can't

    10. Re:Polio, Asthma & Allergies by jez9999 · · Score: 4, Funny

      There has been no (to my knowledge) increase in resistance to bleach used in the kitchen for instance. It would be like gaining resistance to fire. The properties of these antibacterial agents is just too violent against the cell for evolution to do anything about it.

      That's exactly why I clean my hands by setting them on fire. Anything left after it's been put out can stay.

    11. Re:Polio, Asthma & Allergies by scottv67 · · Score: 4, Informative

      They already have allergy treatments. Basically, they give you a shot every few months.

      If you are talking about immunotherapy for the treatment of allergies, the frequency of the injections is more than "every few months". It's more like "once a week". The injections provide an ever-increasing amount of the substance the patient is allergic to in an effort to get the patient's immune system to "chill out". The last time I was receiving these shots, I was getting them every five days (Mon, Fri, Wed, Mon, Fri, etc.). I spent a lot of time sitting in the waiting room at the allergy clinic (you have to sit in the clinic after receiving the shot so the clinic staff can monitor you for an adverse reaction to the shot).

      http://www.allergycapital.com.au/Pages/immth.html

    12. Re:Polio, Asthma & Allergies by irtza · · Score: 4, Insightful

      thank you. If I had mod points, I would boost you up and call it a day.

      Part of what evolution teaches is a thing called "Selective pressure". If there is no pressure, then functionality is lost. For example, species that adapt to caves tend to go blind because destructive mutations to the eyes pose no greater survival risk.

      The same is true for the lower classes vs middle vs upper classes as mentioned in parent. As sickle cell, thalessemia, reactive airway diseases become more treatable, their prevalence will increase or at least come to a steady state. This will also allow other diseases or complications of these conditions to manifest. An example of this would be side-effects of anti-retroviral agents. They can be quite devestating in some cases, but does that mean we stop prescribing them? You can only justify that if you - like Hitler (I thank thee Godwin for this one) - feel that the weak should die to strengthen the gene pool.

      Many people are opposed to the idea of going on hemodialysis or getting an organ transplant. They site examples of people doing poorly on these therapies - about the amount of time they spend in the hospital - about the slew of medications they are on. One must bear in mind that these complications are far better than the alternative - a short miserable existence.

      Look at the life-expectancy of the lower classes vs the middle class and you will see that hygiene has some significant advantages. Soap and antimicrobial agents are one of the few medical instruments that have had a great impact on the overall life-span of society. Most other advances barely left a dent in the overall life-span.

      if someone says its better to have rampant cholera and dysentery wiping out huge populations of children - potentially doubling or tripling infant mortality - just so we don't have as much appendicitis, I would question their judgement greatly.

      As for air purifiers (mentioned somewhere in this thread) - they possibly prevent interstitial lung disease on top of removing allergens.

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    13. Re:Polio, Asthma & Allergies by Cassius+Corodes · · Score: 4, Informative

      Actually in proper hospitals where they rotate the antibacterial agent used to clean the floors - by the time (about a month) when the old agent is used again the resistance has almost completely disappeared from the population. When you are talking about a 20 minute per division life form that is a lot of generations in a month for the resistance to be out competed by more efficient variants.

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    14. Re:Polio, Asthma & Allergies by bodrell · · Score: 2, Interesting

      There are aspects of our immune system that deal with macroscopic threats - parasites, foreign bodies, etc. In modern, industrialized society intestinal parasites and unremoved splinters aren't really a problem so a part of our immune system is left with very little to do. Like a bored child or pet, our immune system goes looking for something to do. It overreacts to pollen, proteins in common foods, and animal dander.
      Yup. Right on the money--although I might add rheumatoid arthritis, lupus, type I diabetes, and maybe even autism to the list in the subject line. It's called the hygiene hypothesis, and has a lot of evidence backing it up. The first is that children in Ghana who were dewormed subsequently developed asthma and dust mite allergies. If they became reinfected with worms, the asthma and allergies went away. Recent article (abstract): http://www.informaworld.com/smpp/content~content=a779532758~db=all

      Also, people with autoimmune intestinal disorders (inflammatory bowel disease, irritable bowel syndrome, Crohn's) had nearly complete remission of their symptoms when they were voluntarily infected with pig whipworm eggs. The eggs can't fully mature in humans, so the person has to drink more eggs (in a shot of Gatorade) every few weeks. Article: http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/537189.

      Finally, there's the growing field of Metabolomics, which is basically what it sounds like. They've been discovering that gut microflora are incredibly important to our health because they do most of our digestion for us--and if our intestinal bacteria can't metabolize a drug, or turn it into a toxic metabolite, that can hurt us. In addition, bacteria may also secrete immunomodulatory stuff, so people who've had lots of antibiotics may have immune systems that are out of calibration. Link about effect of chamomile tea on gut bacteria (abstract): http://www.nature.com/nrmicro/journal/v3/n5/abs/nrmicro1152.html And since that link is just an abstract, here's another article by the authors with free full text, where mice were innoculated with human baby gut bacteria: http://www.nature.com/msb/journal/v3/n1/full/msb4100153.html
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  2. Paper Abstract by nodrogluap · · Score: 5, Informative

    The abstract, for those who don't have access to the journal (article DOI doi:10.1016/j.jtbi.2007.08.032):

    The human vermiform ("worm-like") appendix is a 5 to 10 cm long and 0.5 to 1
    cm wide pouch that extends from the cecum of the large bowel. The architecture of the
    human appendix is unique among mammals, and few mammals other than humans have
    an appendix at all. The function of the human appendix has long been a matter of debate,
    with the structure often considered to be a vestige of evolutionary development despite
    evidence to the contrary based on comparative primate anatomy. The appendix is thought
    to have some immune function based on its association with substantial lymphatic tissue,
    although the specific nature of that putative function is unknown. Based (a) on a recently
    acquired understanding of immune-mediated biofilm formation by commensal bacteria in
    the mammalian gut, (b) on biofilm distribution in the large bowel, (c) the association of
    lymphoid tissue with the appendix, (d) the potential for biofilms to protect and support
    colonization by commensal bacteria, and (e) on the architecture of the human bowel, we
    propose that the human appendix is well suited as a "safe house" for commensal bacteria,
    providing support for bacterial growth and potentially facilitating re-inoculation of the
    colon in the event that the contents of the intestinal tract are purged following exposure to a pathogen.

  3. Obligatory by onosson · · Score: 2, Funny

    I, for one, welcome our bacteria-breeding appendix overlords.

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  4. Re:Reboot? by eldavojohn · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Is the digestive system a computer? Perhaps a better term might be 'repopulate' although it doesn't sound as trendy.

    I suppose you could poke equally as much fun back at the computer science community with:

    Virus? Is a computer the immune system? Fields of science borrow and share terms all the time. People seem to like the term 'reboot' despite it's origins being found in computers. I myself sometimes forget the pure origin of the word. The 'boot' part being from the bootloader of a system which plays a vital role in the bootstrapping process prior to the start of the operating system (if there is one installed). Do you think tailors are annoyed that we stole their bootstrap word?

    Why nitpick terminology when everyone borrows it. Accept descriptive words, don't be prescriptive--I think that's what makes languages fun and interesting instead of boring, dry & dead.
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  5. the purpose of the appendix by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    On the evening of the sixth day of creation, God had an argument with his editors about what to do with some material that all agreed was clever but not an especially great fit. So they decided to move it to the appendix.

  6. System reboot: continue? by lpangelrob · · Score: 5, Funny

    The appendix's job is to reboot the digestive system in that case.

    Gives a new meaning to the term "stack dump". I myself am currently suffering from a stop error. :-(

  7. "produces" by Gothmolly · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Just like leaving meat out in the sun "produces" flies? Didn't we sort all this out back in the 17th century or whatever? Oh wait, its CNN, that paragon of quality journalism.

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  8. Re:Evolution would have gotten rid of it by Belacgod · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Incorrect. Evolution would have got rid of it if it was actively detrimental. The human body has plenty of useless-but-neutral features--earlobes, for one--that won't go away.

    Evolution doesn't approach the best solution, just the solution that's better than the others in existence at the time.

  9. Re:Evolution would have gotten rid of it by tomhudson · · Score: 2, Insightful

    >"Evolution would have gotten rid of it if this part were useless."

    Evolution takes time. Hence the darwin awards

    Also, its a "moving target", since evolution alters the environment (predators, food chain, etc.), one consequence is the current "solution" is always sub-prime.

  10. From my perspective by Scrameustache · · Score: 3, Funny

    The purpose of the appendix to spontaneously kill you in a horribly painful way.
    Unless you have access to surgeons. Yay modern medicine!

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  11. Re:Evolution would have gotten rid of it by speaker+of+the+truth · · Score: 3, Funny

    The human body has plenty of useless-but-neutral features--earlobes, for one Boy will they laugh at you in 100 years time when earlobes are revealed to have a very important function. Has this article taught you nothing?
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  12. Re:Reboot? by TheRaven64 · · Score: 3, Informative

    I myself sometimes forget the pure origin of the word. The 'boot' part being from the bootloader of a system which plays a vital role in the bootstrapping process prior to the start of the operating system (if there is one installed). Do you think tailors are annoyed that we stole their bootstrap word? Apparently you have forgotten the pure origin of the word. It comes from a fairy tale (from which a Heinlein story also gets its name) where the protagonist escapes from a hole by lifting himself up by his bootstraps.

    When a computer is turned on, it needs to load some code to run. In order to do this, it needs some code to tell it which code to load. In order to load that code, it needs some code to tell it what to load, and so on. The solution is to have the computer metaphorically pick itself up by its bootstraps to get the first bit loaded. The code it then runs became known as the bootstrap, and later the term was corrupted to boot loader, and other variations.

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  13. Re:Evolution would have gotten rid of it by pla · · Score: 4, Informative

    Evolution would have gotten rid of it if this part were useless.

    No. Evolution would have gotten rid of it if it caused a net increase in the risk of death between menarche and menopause (males simply don't matter here).

    Now, we might presume at first glance that since appendicitis can kill, and a not-inconsiderable portion of the population will at some point get it. But the lower incidence in underdeveloped countries suggests that its modern danger to us may result largely from lifestyle; and, as we currently chop it out at the first sign of inflammation, we may also overstate the actual risk of death from appendicitis in the absence of treatment.



    Evolution/God does their work quite well I guess.

    You can believe what you want about a deity, and what mechanisms it put into place to run the universe. But beware of animism by ascribing "intent" to abstract statistical descriptions of phenomena.

  14. Re:So we're all scumbags .. by tomhudson · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Well, bacteria are the most populous living organisms in the world, and they're developing resistance to all our antibiotics, so its only a matter of time before we see stuff like ...:

    [_] I for one welcome our bacterial scum pond overlords
    [_] I have no intestine, you ignorant clod scumbag!
    [_] Imagine a beowulf cluster of ... oh, they're ALREADY a cluster ... and drug resistant - I guess we're cluster-f$cked!
    [_] All your base nucleotides belong to us
    [_] In Soviet Russia antibiotics kill YOU!

    Mind you, we're talking about a culture that still insists on doctor-shopping to get antibiotics for viral infections, and over-indulges in anti-bacterial wipes, plastics, etc., to the point of both compromising our own immune systems, and breeding super-bugs.

  15. Re: Evolution would have gotten rid of it by Polemicist · · Score: 5, Informative

    Evolution would have gotten rid of it if this part were useless.

    It is not exactly true that evolution would get rid of a part that has become useless. Evolution through natural selection would tend to remove mainly deleterous (harmful) structures, but structures that are neither harmful nor helpful are masked from natural selection. To explain the loss of the vestigial structures, we must realize that the individual organism has only so many resources (energy, molecules, etc) with which to survive. This causes natural selection to select against structures that use up the organism's resources without contributing to its survival (for example in whales, who still have vestigial hips and leg bones, which serve no function and are much reduced in size).
    This leads to the question of why the structure is still present. There are two major reasons why we would still observe the structure today: time and cost.
    If natural selection only started working on removing the structure in recent time (geologically speaking), it would not be finished instantly in one generation, as natural selection works by tiny modifications that are build on generation after generation. Hence the canon of natural history: Natura non facit saltum (nature makes no leap).
    A second possibility for its continued presence is that further reduction in its size or its total absence would be more disadvantageous the organism's fitness than its presence. This seems to be what the study is suggesting, that even though it is not used to the full extent it once was, there is some tiny function that is still useful enough to justify the resources the organism spends on it.

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  16. Support contract by HangingChad · · Score: 2, Funny

    The appendix's job is to reboot the digestive system in that case.

    So your appendix is run by Microsoft support.

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  17. Keeping kids healthy by throatmonster · · Score: 5, Informative

    Want to give your offspring the best chance?

    1. Breastfeed. Not just for 6 weeks either. Worldwide average weaning age is 3-4yrs. U.S. is about the worst at this.
    2. Let your kids eat dirt. No, don't encourage it. Just don't freak when it happens.
    3. Be very conservative with immunizations. How many middle class US children are really going to get exposed to Hep? And since thermerisol has finally been removed from vaccination products, the autism rate has finally stopped exploding (despite the fact that studies show no link between the two).
    4. LOTS of physical contact! Breastfed babies get this. It stimulates brain development.
    5. Love the little knuckleheads despite everything.
    6. Learn basic biology and medicine yourself. Your offspring, your responsibility. Knowledge and common sense go a long way towards health.

    We're still learning about biology and medicine. Oh shit, you mean bacteria can evolve to become resistant to antibiotics, and that blanketing the population with antibiotics (antibaterical handsoap, anyone?) causes bigger problems than it solves? I've never heard of a staph infection from a home birth. When women give birth at home around all the same germs they are exposed to anyway, postpartum infections are almost nonexistent.

    OTOH, I will take exception to the idea that there were no allergies and less sickness among rural populations 2 generations ago. There were. The difference is that those kids were just labeled "sickly" and often died back then. Is it a bad thing that those kids have a chance now?

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    1. Re:Keeping kids healthy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autism_(incidence) seems to indicate that the US autism rate has continued to rise after the removal of Thimerosal from children's vaccines five years ago. Do you have more recent data?

    2. Re:Keeping kids healthy by Craig+Davison · · Score: 3, Informative

      3. Be very conservative with immunizations. How many middle class US children are really going to get exposed to Hep? And since thermerisol has finally been removed from vaccination products, the autism rate has finally stopped exploding (despite the fact that studies show no link between the two).
      You're confused. Vaccinate your children! The only reason these infectious diseases aren't a threat to your kid is that everyone else was vaccinated at one point. Vaccinations actually strengthen the immune system. Here's a FAQ: http://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca/im/vs-sv/vs-faq_e.html


      But just to reinforce your point, I'll add 7. Don't slather on the antibiotic ointment when you get a paper cut. Don't use Lysol in your kitchen - use a bleach solution if soap is not going to cut it.

    3. Re:Keeping kids healthy by the+Dragonweaver · · Score: 2, Informative

      "I will take exception to the idea that there were no allergies and less sickness among rural populations 2 generations ago. There were. The difference is that those kids were just labeled "sickly" and often died back then. Is it a bad thing that those kids have a chance now?"

      I concur. My father-in-law, a farming Depression baby, suffered from asthma his whole life, and the last twenty years of his life were a state of constant illness, mostly from the damage he'd suffered pre-treatment. (Though in the later years, there was certainly an element of drugs to treat the side effects of the drugs to treat the primary problem. Certain things stack up over time.)

      The irony is that he outlived his "healthy" siblings, every one.

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    4. Re:Keeping kids healthy by Loke+the+Dog · · Score: 4, Insightful

      2 and 3 contradict each other. One says immunization by exposure to bacteria/viruses is good, the other says its bad. Admittedly, sterile needles have replaced dirty fingers for the last century. But I don't see why the old method was better than the new one.

  18. another body part that is often yanked by Skapare · · Score: 3, Insightful

    From TFA:

    The theory led Gary Huffnagle, a University of Michigan internal medicine and microbiology professor, to wonder about the value of another body part that is often yanked: "I'll bet eventually we'll find the same sort of thing with the tonsils."

    And what about the foreskin?

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    1. Re:another body part that is often yanked by JewGold · · Score: 2, Informative

      The foreskin has a very definite purpose. It keeps the head of the penis protected and moistened: an internal organ as it was designed. Also the foreskin itself contains one of the largest concentration of nerves on the body. These features help with penetration and improve sexual pleasure tremendously.

      Outside of some religious circles, the practice of butchering newborns is a very new one. A recent study has shown men who have been butchered have only a fraction of the sexual pleasure as normal, intact men.

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    2. Re:another body part that is often yanked by jez9999 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      There was also a study showing that foreskin removal lowers the risk of transmitting HIV. It's an unfortunate, but probably correct, fact. I think it should be emphasized that it's not some useless/evil part of the male anatomy, though.

  19. Re:Evolution would have gotten rid of it by Spacejock · · Score: 4, Funny

    Of course earlobes are useful. I mean, what else could you possibly hang earrings off ... your privates?

  20. Re:Reboot? by TheRaven64 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The metaphor predates CPUs by a good few decades. The machines for which the concept was invented were very early stored program computers. Originally, computers had their software hard-wired, and running a new program meant rewiring the computer. The next generation, starting with the Manchester Baby, stored their programs in the same way as they stored data and so encountered the problem of bootstrapping since they no longer had a hard-coded program. They had to have a simple program hard coded that would allow them to pick themselves up by their bootstraps and load the stored program. By the time microprocessors and things like the x86 BIOS were around the term was already old.

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  21. Re:Evolution would have gotten rid of it by nurb432 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Evolution will drop useless parts as well, just not as quickly since it doesnt effect survival at the time. ( where it may have at some point in the past ). Remember too, mating rituals are part of survival. Often in the animal kindgom if you arent as pretty as the competition you cease to contribute to the gene pool. Lobes and other apparent useless-but-neutral features may have been a 'pretty' factor 10 thousand years ago for us.

    And since evolution never stops, you cant really predict when something like earlobs will disappear. It just hasn't happened YET.

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  22. My high school bio teach told me by EVil+Lawyer · · Score: 3, Funny

    My high school biology teacher at an "excellent" public school told me that the function of the appendix in the olden days was to digest rocks and such that primitive humans might have digested by mistake. =)

  23. Re:So we're all scumbags .. by dmadole · · Score: 3, Informative

    The blurb posted on slashdot states that in the human body, there are MORE BACTERIA than there are HUMAN CELLS. Which would suggest that a minimum of 51% of the human body is made up of bacteria and only 49% (or less) of our body is made of things like . . . water, carbon and other . . . you know . . . human composition stuff.

    One meaning of "more bacteria than human cells" means simply that there are a larger number of bacteria than they are human cells, not a larger mass of bacteria than human cells. For example, e. coli is about 1/100 the size of a human cell. So if there was an equal number of e. coli cells and human cells in the body, it would make the mass proportion of e. coli cells about 1% not 50%.

    By the way, bacteria are also made of water, carbon and other ... you now ... organic composition stuff. Humans don't have a monopoly on that composition.

  24. Re:Evolution would have gotten rid of it by bwen · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Your not-inconsiderable portion of the population is considerable - about 7%. Appendicitis does kill often if left untreated. Delay in diagnosis is the principle reason for mortality so to "chop" it off at the first sign of inflammation is usually a good idea. Spontaneous resolution of appendicitis is not something to wait for. Having a patient perforate in front of you is considered bad medicine in the US. If it does serve the purpose of protecting the bowel flora during bouts of cholera / dysentery, then it probably is superfluous in a developed country and will be selected against (esp in fertile women as appendicitis usually strikes people between 10-30.) I do wonder if it is able to salvage more bacteria when faced with antibiotics and if it helps repopulate the gut in developed countries after a pt takes a Z-pak or fluoroquinole for their "bronchitis."

  25. Appendectomies save lives by cryfreedomlove · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Please don't read this and think that you or your loved ones should avoid an appendectomy if you need one. Nearly all appendectomies are performed on painfully sick people who are facing certain, slow, painful death without an appendectomy.

  26. Purpose? by Brandybuck · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Does everything have to have a purpose? That's far too deterministic a philosophy for my tastes. Maybe the appendix doesn't have a purpose, is not part of a plan, has nothing whatsoever to do with survival of the fittest. Maybe it's just a quirk of intestinal development. Maybe its benign enough that there was no reason [sic] to cull it from the gene pool.

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  27. Re:Reboot? by sjames · · Score: 2, Informative

    In the old days, you might enter the bootstrap on a front panel (in the snow over your head uphill both ways). In it's simplest form a set of toggle switches connected to the address and data bus and a pushbutton to strobe the write line (yes, manually, CPU not yet running). Eventually, the bootstrap code started being placed in a ROM and instead of forcing an address into the program counter, it would go to a defined value when reset strobes (which the chipset does when the power supply stabilizes).

    For that matter, when entered manually, the bootstrap program was likely just barely enough to load a second stage bootstrap from somewhere that would then load the OS.

    Now get off my lawn :-)