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Windows XP SP3 Build 3205 Released w/ New Features

jBubba writes "Windows XP SP3 build 3205 is the first official & authorized release of the next Windows XP service pack; and has been made available to testers as a part of the Windows Server 2008/Windows Vista SP1 beta program. NeoSmart Technologies has the run-down on the included 1,073 patches/hotfixes including security updates. Contrary to popular belief, Windows XP SP3 does ship with new features/components, most of which have been backported from Windows Vista. Some included features: 'New Windows Product Activation model: no need to enter product key during setup. Network Access Protection modules and policies have been brought to XP after being one of the more-well-received features in Windows Vista. New Microsoft Kernel Mode Cryptographic Module - the Windows XP SP3 kernel now includes an entire module that provides easy access to multiple cryptographic algorithms and is available for use in kernel-mode drivers and services. New "Black Hole Router" detection - Windows XP SP3 can detect and protect against rogue routers that are discarding data.'"

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  1. Elegant MS, really elegant by rueger · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Windows XP SP3 build 3205 ... has been made available to testers as a part of the ...Windows Vista SP1 beta program."

    God, I love this company!

    1. Re:Elegant MS, really elegant by ScrewMaster · · Score: 5, Funny

      God, I love this company!

      Well, between you and Steve Ballmer, that's two.

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  2. Re:Windows Product Activation? by HaloZero · · Score: 5, Informative

    2K SP3 & SP4, and XP SP1 and SP2 provided the ability to merge the service pack into the base install for the operating system. The final product is usually referred to as a 'slipstream' install - it allows you to install Windows XP without having to patch to the absolute gills, just the muck from after the latest slipstreamed service pack.

    After slipstreaming SP2 into my base XP install disk, a flat-format install did take a bit longer, but device propagation was FAR, FAR IMPROVED. There were a few other niceties, but they go beyond the scope of this post. I wouldn't be surprised if they're referring to changes made in the slipstream of the base install.

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  3. I would like to note something by Daimanta · · Score: 4, Funny

    The Windows Server 2008/Windows Vista SP1 beta program is not in charge of Gundam.

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  4. WGA will doom it. by Deathlizard · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If it's got WGA like Windows Vista? Then no thanks.

    That's the only reason we're staying away from Vista, and if this new activation is anything like that then it's SP2 until they drop support for it, and maybe something else (Linux, OSX) after that.

    I've said my reasons we stay away from Vista In my Journal. I'm sure we're not the only workplaces saying the same thing. Especially if the computers are not anchored to the network and are off the network for months at a time like our systems are.

  5. And best feature of all! by Chas · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Are you SURE you wouldn't like to upgrade to Windows Vista?"

    [Upgrade Now] [Upgrade RIGHT NOW] [FUBAR Existing System]

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  6. Full text by sr243 · · Score: 5, Informative


    Following our coverage of the Windows XP SP3 beta leak almost a month ago in August, here's some more info on the official beta, which just had its first authorized distributable released earlier today. Say hello to Windows XP SP3, build 3205!

    While the newly-released build and the one leaked a month ago (Build 3180) may share the same name, we can exclusively reveal that they are not identical releases. This release, also shipped as windowsxp-kb936929-sp3-x86-enu.exe, is 334.2 megabytes and has been made available to tier-one Windows Server 2008 and Windows Vista SP1 beta testers. Hashes are as follows:

    CRC: 56e08837
    MD5: c8c24ec004332198c47b9ac2b3d400f7

    Along with the standalone installer redistributables (in English, Japanese, and German), Microsoft also provided the usual release notes and a list of all the hotfixes included in this release. Contrary to popular belief, Windows XP SP3 does ship with all-new features - not just patches and hotfixes, most of them backported from Windows Vista:

            * New Windows Product Activation model: no need to enter product key during setup. Thank God for that!
            * Network Access Protection modules and policies have been brought to XP after being one of the more-well-received features in Windows Vista. You can read more about NAP here.
            * New Microsoft Kernel Mode Cryptographic Module - the Windows XP SP3 kernel now includes an entire module that provides easy access to multiple cryptographic algorithms and is available for use in kernel-mode drivers and services.
            * New "Black Hole Router" detection - Windows XP SP3 can detect and protect against rogue routers that are discarding data.

    Windows XP SP3 is compatible with all versions of Windows x86, included Embedded, Fundamentals, Start, Professional, Media Center, and Home Editions.

    Windows XP SP3 now contains 1,073 patches/hotfixes, not including those in previous service packs. Of the 1,073 included updates, 114 are for security-related issues. The remainder are updates to performance & reliability, bugfixes, improvements to kernel-mode driver modules, and many BSOD fixes.

    As with Service Pack 2, these include both previously publicly-available updates (whether through support.microsoft.com or via Windows Update) as well as any and all privately-redistributed updates for select customers or partners with specific problems/scenarios.

    The first included update: KB123456 (April 7, 2006). The last: KB942367 (September 29, 2007).

    We're checking with our MS contacts if we can provide you with the actual comprehensive list of updates included in Windows XP SP3, along with their descriptions and KB article links.

  7. Re:Slashdotted by thsths · · Score: 4, Funny

    > Never mind. I should get on with work I suppose.

    Work? Didn't you get the memo that Sunday is off?

  8. Re:Windows Product Activation? by corychristison · · Score: 4, Informative
    It should be noted that Slipstreaming is not as daunting as most people expect... nLite can help that problem and adds a lot of 'hacks' for the install as well. These hacks I speak of are more like features, such as adding Vendor information, as well as including the Serial # right in the install. You can setup an Unattended Setup... that is, you can pre-set all of the questions Windows Setup usually asks during installation.

    :-)

  9. The only thing that's interesting by Opportunist · · Score: 5, Interesting

    most of which have been backported from Windows Vista.

    Including DirectX 10? Few things about Vista are interesting besides that.

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  10. Re:Windows Product Activation? by Dunbal · · Score: 4, Funny

    Why would I need to enter the product key? After all, it comes in a .txt file called "serial" on the installation CD...oops

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  11. New features, backported from Vista ? by Hymer · · Score: 5, Interesting

    But didn't Microsoft say that it is impossible to backport features to XP from Vista due to major differences in the system ?
    ...and since it is possible, will we be getting DirectX 10 on XP too ?
    ...and if not, why not ?
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  12. Blackhole Avoidance? by 99BottlesOfBeerInMyF · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Does anyone have any details on the blackhole routing avoidance feature? While the summary claims blackhole routers are "rogue" routers, blackhole routing is the most common way to stop DDoS attacks and excessive worm traffic from giant botnets of Windows machines. If the OS now offers botnet operators an easy way to bypass that rerouting of malware traffic, this could have serious detrimental affects upon the internet as a whole.

  13. Re:Vista Sound by nuzak · · Score: 4, Insightful

    > knowing nothing about Windows Vista that sounds like an extremely stupid feature.

    Sounds like you've distilled the standard slashdot response to any Vista article.

    Of course as soon as Linux copies the feature, then it's a great idea.

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  14. Re:Windows Product Activation? by nmb3000 · · Score: 4, Informative

    nLite can help that problem and adds a lot of 'hacks' for the install as well.

    nLite can also completely frak up an XP install. One specific instance that we encountered when someone in our office used nLite was the inability for anyone who was not an administrator to use USB devices. None. The only way Windows would recognize and install the drivers for things like mice, keyboards, and flash drives was if you were an administrator. I've seen others, but this was one of the most problematic.

    I very strongly recommend that nobody use it in a business setting or anywhere else you care about stability. If you want to customize an aspect of the Windows install process, do your homework and learn about it. Don't trust a black box to do it all for you.

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  15. Re:Vista Sound by Lennie · · Score: 4, Informative

    The pulseaudio sound daemon does this.

    screenshot

    It allows for setting the volume per audio source.

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  16. Mirror. by antdude · · Score: 4, Informative

    NeoSmart server seems to be down. Here's a mirror.

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  17. Re:Protection against black hole routers? by pchan- · · Score: 5, Informative

    So that when Windows wants to secretly download an update or send your data back to Microsoft, and you prevent them from doing so at the router level, they'll be able to detect it? No. A black hole router is a router that incorrectly handles MTUs that are bigger than it can pass. That is, instead of fragmenting the packets, it just silently drops them. This makes for some very unreliable connections as only the bigger packets get dropped and smaller ones get through. This is usually a problem at the ISP level and has nothing to do with Windows updates. I now return you to your regularly scheduled tin foil hat.
  18. Re:I hate new features. by tacocat · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You're missing the real significance to this. They are back porting features from Vista!!! That's removing the incentive for migration from XP to VISTA on features alone. Considering the historic business model they have used, this is reason for further thought.

    Dell and others have pushed Microsoft into a position where they (OEM) are allowed to continue selling XP software beyond the originally intended dates set by Microsoft. This is the first time anyone ever successfully told Microsoft what to do, including the US Government (interestingly enough).

    Now that there is a continuance of XP in the market, the best thing that Microsoft can provide that customer base with secure products. If they fail to then it gives credence to the competition laying claims on security. If I remember, one of the points Microsoft was selling XP on was the security it provided above the Windows 2000/98/95 platforms. So there is something of a commitment they have made to keep it secure.

    If there's a diminished reason to migrate to Vista, as already demonstrated, then what?

  19. Re:Windows Product Activation? by DigiShaman · · Score: 5, Informative

    I've never used nLite, but I have slipstreamed manually before. It's not hard at all! You can find a nice walk-through on performing your own slipstreaming and ISO building (bootable) here. The instructions are practically spoon-fed. =)

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  20. Re:I hate new features. by hedwards · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You're missing the real significance to this. They are back porting features from Vista!!! That's removing the incentive for migration from XP to VISTA on features alone. Considering the historic business model they have used, this is reason for further thought.

    That's one way of looking at it. Another way is that if they backport a few features it might make less technically inclined people a bit less apprehensive about getting a new computer with Vista on it.

    I suspect that the features aren't going to be any of the most important ones, and will probably be ignored by XP users, but I doubt that it will really hold people back from upgrading. The main reasons people are not upgrading have little to do with the new features, and much more with things like the lack of driver support.
  21. Re:I hate new features. by ShieldW0lf · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That's another way of looking at it. Another way is that they were given a shitload of money from people in the large media industries, and a red carpet right into the service-provider model that they so desperately want, only people are attempting to rebel against this, so they need to find another way to deliver the locks and keys onto peoples desktops.

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  22. What "massive rewrite"? by Joce640k · · Score: 4, Interesting

    DirectX is just a COM interface to the video driver.

    The main differences between DX9 and DX10 are new shaders and getting rid of all the legacy capability bits, neither of which has any dependency on the operating system or driver model.

    I bet that if Microsoft gave the go-ahead to ATI/NVIDIA/INTEL there'd be DX10 support for XP in the very next release. The only reason they aren't doing it is because Microsoft is artificially blocking them.

    They did the exact same thing with OpenGL when Vista was in Beta. Microsoft went around making a lot of noise saying "It can't be done!!" but the driver writers were saying it was easy. Eventually they gave in and Bingo! We have OpenGL on Vista.

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    1. Re:What "massive rewrite"? by suv4x4 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      What "massive rewrite" [..] The main differences between DX9 and DX10 are new shaders and getting rid of all the legacy capability bits, neither of which has any dependency on the operating system or driver model.

      Oh you missed the part about the rewritten API and Object Model?
      Or about the new kernel mode / userspace mode separation of the GUI (DX10 does, in fact, depend on new kernel features)?
      Did you also miss the fact DX10 GPU's can natively multithread?
      Or that they can use virtual memory?

      Now, whether you can get it on XP or not: port enough of the Vista bits back and you can get everything in XP, you can in fact just slap XP label on Vista and call it a day.

      Whether Microsoft should do that is another issue. It's perfectly legitimate of them to put major efforts on their new OS. I'll be happy if they, however, are quicker next time with the stability/security fixes on their legacy OS. I've been waiting for XP SP3 forever.

  23. Re:I hate new features. by Allador · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Funny, I'm an IT department for many companies, and I'm not cringing in fear or having nightmares over Vista.

    For corporate IT, Vista is easy. Roll it out when and only when, its been tested, proven, and your organization is ready for it. Until then, just dont roll it out. Easy as pie. Now, if you've got end-users buying machines and trying to connect them to corporate resources without your control, then thats not corporate IT, thats just a bunch of people doing whatever they want.

    And the black hole router detection is useful, and makes a lot of sense. If you're seeing problems with it, then it just may not be fully baked yet, and you need to give it time to settle out.

    I mean geez, its not like anyone is forcing anybody to upgrade or anything. Your orgs should probably be at least considering buying vista with all new machines now, or as part of your VM purchasing, and just use the downlevel install options for now, that way you own it when you're ready.

    If you're encouraging your clients to install Vista, when you know they're not ready for it, and its not ready for them, then you're a bad consultant.

    If you're telling them its not ready, and they're doing it anyway, and then calling you for help, then you deserve every penny and more from those hours, cause you've got bad clients. :)

  24. Re:I hate new features. by cmacb · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I suspect that the features aren't going to be any of the most important ones,


    Right.

    The most important features of Vista were dropped before it ever hit the street.