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Google Vows to Increase Gmail Limit

An anonymous reader writes "Google claims that people are devouring capacity with photos and other attachments on its Gmail e-mail service faster than the company can add to it at its current pace. So Google said on Friday that it would increase the rate at which it is adding capacity to its web-based service. There's only one problem, Google's main competitors — Windows Live Hotmail and Yahoo Mail — far surpassed Gmail this year with their own capacity."

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  1. hands up by wwmedia · · Score: 5, Insightful

    hands up who here uses gmail to the max?

    myself after 2 years im only using ~500MB

    1. Re:hands up by Enderandrew · · Score: 5, Funny

      I haven't filled my inbox, but I use GMail to the Maxx!!!

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    2. Re:hands up by konekoniku · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I've actually hit the limit twice now, and had to spend a few hours searching and deleting emails with attachments to free up space (am now back down to 96% of capacity). What causes this is primarily convenience (or laziness, depending on how you see it) -- I have a habit of never deleting emails. If an email is useless (e.g., random emails from university mailing lists that don't concern me), I never even bother to open it, much less delete it (the way gmail lets you preview the first dozen or so words in your email without ever opening it is very useful for this).

    3. Re:hands up by ukatoton · · Score: 5, Funny

      NOOOOOO! Leave my 3069 MB alone!

    4. Re:hands up by Gaerek · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Archive button is your friend. That's the whole purpose of the labels.

    5. Re:hands up by CODiNE · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I hate to say it but I think we've reached a point where "normal people" use their tech more than the geeks do. At least in the email area. I too would be using a small chunk of my GMail space except for mom emailing me sunsets, uncle John sending pictures of his farm and all those stupid HTML emails they send. Sure its a waste of bandwidth to us, but they're generally more social and tend to fill our mailboxes faster.

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    6. Re:hands up by SnowZero · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Sounds terrible. That kind of stuff really belongs on a website, and email should just refer to it.

  2. Passed up, nothing by stonecypher · · Score: 5, Funny

    Yahoo! Mail went to unlimited like six months ago. Anyone still watching their mail space should focus their time fending off mastodon with their obsidian knives.

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  3. Why don't people care about their data's safety? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I find it astounding that people would so willing store so much personal information on the servers of these companies. I don't care if we're talking about Google, Microsoft, Yahoo!, or some other company. It's just damn scary to think that so many people would just give out all that data. Is it because they're ignorant of the risks? Or maybe they know, but it's convenient, and they're willing to take the chance that the naked photos of themselves that they're storing in their hosted email account could be publically released?

  4. it's true! by ClippySay · · Score: 5, Funny

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  5. just one new feature by DMoylan · · Score: 5, Interesting

    i'd be really happy if they allowed me to delete the attachments but leave the email. i believe the feature was requested yonks ago but so far has not happened. i'm currently at 50% but that would drop to less than 10% if i could delete the attachments i already have downloaded.

    other than that i cannot fault the service. i get my email at work, home and on my phone with no hassles. thanks google!

    1. Re:just one new feature by Duncan3 · · Score: 5, Funny

      It takes at least 5,001 engineers to figure out how to delete attachments, and Google only has 5,000. So it's really just beyond them to figure it out. It's not like the code to do that is just laying around in a dozen open source packages or anything.

      I've known dozens of people what "worked" at Google, and they all say it's just one big party. The only people that work are the low-paid ad sales crew - the ones responsible for 99.9% of last quarter's revenue.

      If it doesn't sell ads, noone works on it.

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    2. Re:just one new feature by budgenator · · Score: 4, Interesting

      What I've always wondered is why Google doesn't just figure out a way to delete duplicates and keep one attachment for each Email to use, just think of how much space they could save by just storing one Cutsie picture of kittens playing with yarn instead of one for everyone in Aunt Millie's Email List.
        as for your red hot ex girlfriend in a Princess Leia, check usenet.

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  6. Single point of failure + high value target by G4from128k · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I can understand using these services as a backup, but as people shift more and more of their online life to web 2.0, they will find that less and less of their files/data/structured products reside on their own local PC. How many people have a full backup of their Flickr albums (with all the organization structures and metadata that they've enter into flickr?) How many people have a full backup of their GMail accounts? These systems are just one botched upgrade away from data loss (does Google or its competitors have a full backup of ALL users' mail service data and will the restore process actual work?)

    I also wonder at what point in time will internet criminals shift their attentions to online services such as Hotmail/Yahoo/GMail as a means of hosting spam/scam operations. A smart scammer could parasitize a group of GMail accounts and send out a few spams a day from each account from a million accounts at once. As long as the scammer obfuscates their emails (use Picassa to create CAPTCHA-like GIF spam) so that the Gmail doesn't notice a million identical emails being sent for a million accounts, the parasite process can survive. And if a criminal finds a way to create an internal GMail worm (one that can propagate itself from account to account without any interaction by the account holder), then they can turn the entire GMail system into a botnet.

    My point is that these massive system have some serious single-points of failure and are becoming extremely high-value targets for internet criminals.

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    1. Re:Single point of failure + high value target by MadMorf · · Score: 5, Informative

      These systems are just one botched upgrade away from data loss (does Google or its competitors have a full backup of ALL users' mail service data and will the restore process actual work?)

      Speaking as a storage engineer working for a vendor used by one their competitors (The Goog uses us too, but not for Gmail afaik) the answer is yes.

      A couple of months ago there was a failed raid group which housed 200,000 mailboxes, which was restored with only a loss of 15 seconds of email.

      Not bad for free, eh?

    2. Re:Single point of failure + high value target by timeOday · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Sounds like a strong argument for everybody keeping their money at home under the mattress instead of a bank.

      Compared to the atrocious data security and safeguards most home users have (which is to say, none), having the pros at google or hotmail take care of it is a huge step up. At least they don't put it all on one drive with no backup or accidentally throw it away when they get a new computer.

  7. Problem? by RAMMS+EIN · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ``There's only one problem, Google's main competitors Windows Live Hotmail and Yahoo Mail far surpassed Gmail this year with their own capacity.''

    Problem? On the contrary! This is great. It's competition at work, improving things for users. Google offered lots of storage. Now it's competitors offer more. In response, Google will offer more. Whichever of these services you are using, you will get a better deal. The only problem here is how you can put all that space to good use.

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  8. They surpassed it because by unity100 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    People are not utilizing their services to the fullest. Naturally, they are able to oversell their storage. As users utilize only percentages of that space you can go on allocating more to each user, because they will be only using a percentage of it anyway. Much common in the hosting world. but not advised.

  9. People don't back up anyways. by Oshawapilot · · Score: 5, Insightful

    With the exception of probably the majority of us here, most computer users are completely devoid of any regular backup schedule regardless. IMHO this makes Gmail far superior for the average (read as: hopelessly unprepared) computer user. I've lost track of how many people I've heard say "I lost your email because my computer crashed" over the years. I've yet to hear one Gmail user say the same thing. That aside, I'm sure Google, of all companies out there, make some effort to ensure there's some amount of backup or redundancy as part of the Gmail system.

  10. Re:A tip on how to clean-up your GMail meanwhile! by sisukapalli1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It would have been really nice to have a "search by attachment, with size > X" option... This way, we can delete huge attachments first. Often, in Thunderbird, I sort by size and keep moving large messages to another folder.

    Gmail search has been wonderful, so I use it for searching messages, and use Thunderbird for reading mails.

    S

  11. google wants users to reach limit and pay up by paleshadows · · Score: 5, Insightful
    • Google now sells storage to people that reached the space limit: 10GB for $20 per year, 40GB for $75, 150GB for $250, or 400GB for $500; the prices are specified in https://www.google.com/accounts/PurchaseStorage, but you need to have a gmail account to access this page.
    • Google repeatedly refuses to users' requests to add to the gmail interface an option to delete attachments, which is one of the most wanted gmail features, thereby making it hard to save space.
    • Likewise, google repeatedly refuses to let you sort email messages by size, making it almost impossible to locate the most space-consuming emails, a functionality one really needs when one reaches the space limit.
    • Considering the above non-existent options are really trivial to add, one can only conclude that google wants you to reach the limit and pay up. And they claim they're "not evil"...
  12. Am I missing something here? by BadEvilYoda · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What is limiting you to ONE GMail account, if your first one is too full? It's not like they verify anything, if you're absolutely in love with GMail, and run out of space in free account #1, sign up for free account #2, and off you go, instant DOUBLE STORAGE. Yes, it's slightly inconvenient, but with auto-forwarding of all new mail to the new account enabled, and the ability to "send as" the old account #1 from #2 ... really not much of a problem.

  13. Re:I don't get it by Charlie+Kane · · Score: 4, Informative

    I'm a journalist. I get lots of email from publicity types, many of which include print-ready imagery (which can be as much as several megabytes in size). I get email from freelance writers, which often includes attached .DOC files of stories and/or invoices. (I know, I know -- I'm nuts to be using Microsoft Word when emacs would do the job with less overhead.) I try to regularly delete the largest, least necessary email from my box, but in truth what I really like about Gmail is the ability to keep everything. For one thing, it works as a great PR photo archive with next to no effort required on my part. For another, it's a poor man's backup system -- I actually trust it more than the one my office IT department provides, which has failed me in the not-too-distant past. Anyway, I'm at 1209 MB and growing.

    Email attachments are obsolete? Get out of town. I happily use FTP as much as possible, of course, but email attachments are, bar none, the easiest, fastest way to communicate with publicity agents and other journalists, not all of whom are Internet savvy. Yes, there are occasional issues where attachments are munged -- or legitimate attachments get snared in our corporate spam filter -- but those annoyances are far outweighed by the relative convenience of not having to teach every single person I deal with by email on a daily basis how to download and use FTP clients.

  14. Re:google wants users to reach limit and pay up by mpeg4codec · · Score: 4, Insightful

    And they claim they're "not evil"
    I feel you man. It's the very definition of evil when people who are providing you with an incredibly large amount of free resources seek a little remittance for it now and then.