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Getting Grubby & Demystifying Linux Booting

davidmwilliams writes "Linux users can boast long times between reboots, but even so, the startup screens will grace your display at some time. Here's just what your computer is doing during this process, what the messages mean, and how you can take control."

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  1. It's Web 2.0 by SignupRequired · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Ever since somebody decided "Web 2.0" existed, there's been a big slew of these awful new "IT stuff" sites that look like they've been designed using a checklist of Web 2.0 mainstays and buzzwords. User ratings? Check. Submit news? Check. Blogs? Check. Annoying multipage articles? Check. Attention whoring abuse of social bookmarking sites at the end of every article? Check. More banner ads than content on any given page? Check. User comments? Check. Half of it is actually a decade old and was pioneered by Slashdot, but thanks to the magic of buzzwords, everything old is new.

    And with all of this stuff in place, they invariably fail to even attempt the final hurdle: creating decent content. Instead of picking one of the two available routes (create good content vs Slashdot-style aggregation), they seem to like to go halfway, with awkward "stories" like this half-boiled Red Hat GRUB HOWTO masquerading as "Breaking News".

    Sure, maybe these are probably all honest people trying to kick-start their journalism careers. But if so, what the hell are they doing throwing this crap around? Even Katz was more interesting than this trash.

  2. Re:Windows refugees by NeverVotedBush · · Score: 4, Insightful

    And there are apparently quite a few Windows immigrants. More how-to and helping them get their Linux-legs is a good thing. And they will need all levels of articles too.

  3. Re:Rob Malda says by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    the year of linux is past. KDE Gnome fighting ruined it.

    Modded down only because you're an AC who happened to speak absolute fact in a First Post. Sure, the absolute truth was burdened by a Dadaist personal attack against TacoMan, or whatever, but still, the groupthink here is suppressing the truth.

    Information doesn't want to be free when peer pressure is in play. Slashdot denizens are stupid sheep, cowed by the threat of metamoderation.
  4. Linux users can boast long times between reboots by Tim+Ward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Sigh. More climate change deniers.

    Look kids, it's time to grow out of willy-waving contests about how long you can keep it up, and turn the ****ing thing off when you're not using it.

  5. Re:What does Grub Offer that Lilo Doesn't by KillerBob · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Part right, part wrong.

    LILO copies a kernel image to its boot area. It doesn't matter if you change the kernel on the hard drive, because LILO's installed image won't change until you invoke the "lilo" command. I've actually seen LILO successfully boot a kernel and initrd (which panicked) after I had formatted a drive and removed all of the partitions, because I hadn't bothered to wipe the MBR.

    With GRUB, however, it's live. If you make a change to your menu.lst file, that change will take effect immediately. And while admittedly, I don't use GRUB, I don't think there's actually a test utility that will tell you whether your menu.lst is properly configured without rebooting. Correct me if I'm wrong, as I frequently am. The recovery console is useful, but as I'm often tinkering with things, I prefer to have a bootloader that's static, and won't change until I explicitly tell it to. There's also the "lilo -v -t" command to test when I make a change to /etc/lilo.conf.

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  6. Climate Changes? Ask me if I Care by fast+turtle · · Score: 2, Insightful
    I'm not willy-waving bragging about uptimes even though I leave my system on 24/7. It's because I'm running 2x Folding at home Clients.

    As to climate change, hell yes we're suffering climate changes but are the man-made or because we've entered the 50 year increased solar activity period of the 100 year cycle? The other question is who pays for the demanded changes and will they do any damn good? The damn research has gone about finding a solution the wrong way.

    Instead of looking at how to cut energy demands by

    getting rid of all parasitic electronic loads

    and you'd be surprised how fast those parasitic loads add up. The simple example is a 5watt load that's on 24/7. That consumes 1kw every 8d:6h, meaning just under 3kw in a month. Check how much is being used by the tv/stereo/surround sound, digital clocks, cordless phones, cable box, printers and such and you'll get an idea why the average household now uses more then 7.5kw per month.

    Now go and check all of your electronics and see if they're actually off instead of in standby before you bring up global warming again.

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  7. Re:Linux users can boast long times between reboot by dbIII · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Some of us use the things for stuff like serving web pages. In that case a couple of hundred days between power cycles or reboots is a pretty short time.

  8. Re:Rob Malda says by dbIII · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It's technical enough to divide the Moorlocks from the complete Eloi that call the beige box on their desk a "hard drive".

  9. Re:Windows refugees by crhylove · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Here's what would help Windows immigrants:

    An easy way to record video and post to YouTube.
    An EASIER way to make mp3s out of a CD (out of the box).
    Distros defaulting to the obvious preferable applications: Thunderbird, VLC, etc.
    Some more decent games besides Urban Terror and Emulators.
    More and Better Hardware companies supporting Linux.
    Easy and Fast Videoconferencing via speex and h.264
    Not needing to configure Grub at all.
    Also (in Ubuntu), not having an infinite list of growing kernels to choose show up in Grub.
    More improvements to Gimp and Open Office so they can actually replace Photoshop and MS Office.
    Never, Ever getting Error 22 again on boot.

    I mean, there are REAL things that Windows refugees need, and I don't think a half-ass tutorial about grub is it.

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