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Ubuntu 7.10 "Gutsy Gibbon" Is Out

Posted by kdawson on from the while-it's-hot dept.

Many readers are sending the news that Ubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon has been released. Download options include mirrors and torrents. Wired has a review based on the release candidate: "Gamers and hardcore media hounds may still feel left out... but we found playing music and watching movies in the new Ubuntu to be every bit as pleasant as it is under OS X or Windows... Wi-Fi, printing, my digital camera and even my iPod all worked immediately after installation — no drivers or other software required... I did have to install additional codecs to get MP3 and Windows Media Audio support."

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  1. What? by 3p1ph4ny · · Score: 5, Insightful

    TFS: hardcore media hounds may still feel left out...

    Amarok. There's nothing like it on any other platform.

    1. Re:What? by 0100010001010011 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You mean it would be nice if people would buy hardware media players that worked on the computer they used?

      Last I checked Apple doesn't support Linux. If you bought an iPod, you knew it didn't support Linux, so why did you buy it?

      This is akin to the people that buy houses next to airports then complain to the city about the noise.

    2. Re:What? by 0100010001010011 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Why not lots of tools that that do one thing instead of one tool that does lots of things? I thought this was the Unix/Linux way.

      Developers could create 5 tiny applications:
      ipod_mount
      ipod_music_sync
      ipod_video_sync
      ipod_pictures_sync
      ipod_unmount

      Each would do what they're supposed to do *very* well. They could have some command line flags that would let you do about anything
      ipod_mount
      ipod_video_sync -device /mnt/ipod -folder /user/me/Videos/
      ipod_music_sync -device /mnt/ipod -file LedZepplin.mp3
      ipod_unmount.

      Then you could write a nice pretty wrapper around that. In my opinion nothing would be very bloated because each program would do one thing and one thing very well. You also get the nice 'feature' of having command line tools available to anyone that wanted to use SSH or a Web interface or an Ncurses interface.

      I'm a die hard OS X fan. It does everything I need to and I don't have to fight it. I also love the command line if there's a way to do it via command line I probably do. My debian server is headless I only have SSH access. I'd love to be able to plug my iPod into its cradle go back to my chair and do everything via ssh. Most new applications I find are KDE or GNOME only. I finally found someone who wrote a nice perl script to convert *.avi to iPod video files. I wrapped that in a shell script to create iPod videos.

      to_ipod.sh Transformers.avi Pulp\ Fiction.avi

      And in a few hours I have Transformers.mp4 and Pulp\ Fiction.mp4, but then I have to transfer them to my Mac to sync them via iTunes.

      (See also off topic rant in same thread)

  2. The summary contradicts itself by GPS+Pilot · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If you have to install additional software to get MP3 support, the music-playing experience is, almost by definition, not as pleasant as it is under OS X.

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    1. Re:The summary contradicts itself by betterunixthanunix · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Well, that is the price you pay for living in a country where software patents are allowed. MP3 is a patented format, so you can never truly listen to an MP3 for free. Part of the cost of Mac OS X is MP3 support, same for Windows Vista. A Linux distro can never distribute software that requires royalties, and so, technically, no Linux distro can legally distribute MP3 software in the US.

      Lucky for you, there is Ogg Vorbis, which is technically superior to MP3 anyway, in terms of quality per byte.

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    2. Re:The summary contradicts itself by Tim+C · · Score: 4, Insightful

      A Linux distro can never distribute software that requires royalties
      Not true, there are a number of options:
      1) Charge for the version of the distro that includes the software, pay the licence fee to the licensor, disallow redistribution of the licensed code
      2) Give the distro away for free, pay the licence fee to the licensor, disallow redistribution of the licensed code
      3) Reimplement the required code, distribute only in countries with a more enlightened attitude towards software patents (eg the EU)

      Lucky for you, there is Ogg Vorbis, which is technically superior to MP3 anyway, in terms of quality per byte.
      Superior or not, that doesn't help me with all the music I have in mp3 (and no, I'm not about to re-rip it).
      The OP's point is valid - the experience is not as good out of the box as that of OS X or Windows, with regards to music playing.
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  3. Re:will it wipe my /home? by speaker+of+the+truth · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'd recommend backing it up regardless of what people say. I've never heard someone complain about having a backup they didn't need, yet I've often heard people complain about not having a backup they needed.

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  4. Re:IU Mirror by nschubach · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I thought they were for porn and warez?

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  5. Gaming Falls to the Winner by mecenday · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I see many weakish answers to this post, but the simplest answer is that Linux simply isn't a gamer's OS right now. And that's fine.

    It isn't something anyone developing Linux or working on Ubuntu can just fix. Gaming is always going to fall to the OS with the biggest installbase because of the money involved. All the Linux folks can do is keep polishing and pushing to make desktop Linux a better experience... so that one day they'll have a profitable userbase for the gaming companies to address.

    Maybe it seems like Linux geeks are underestimating the importance of gaming, but I don't think that's the case. Projects like Wine and Cedega strive to hit a moving target in the dark, just in efforts to bring you folks over... But we'll only ever see mixed results from that.

    From my point of view though, gamers may overestimate their own importance to the adoption of Linux at this time. Because gaming will fall to the biggest (desktop) installbase, how is it going to help an OS that is currently running third? All it can really do is solidify the lead of whoever is in first. Right?

    And, contrary to the opinion of many gamers, there are throngs of people who never-ever game... or never-ever game on a computer. Judging from the folks I know, it'd be the vast majority. Most folks just use their computers to communicate, to budget, to work, and to just dink around on the web. Those are the folks Ubuntu is going after right now.

    Gamers are important, sure. It's a userbase that is a bit more knowledgeable and a bit more experimental, which would make them a good fit for Desktop Linux early-adoption. We'd love to have them. But, unfortunately, they are going to be forever tied to whatever's most popular... and, further, they are not the end-all of computing.

    We'll be happy to see all you gamers again once we hit... sayyy 25%-50% installed. See ya then. =)

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  6. Re:Has support from Dell and Novell by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 3, Insightful

    On a more serious side, they're not on par with VS2005 C++ IDE, either. The only other editor that I know of which can properly parse moderately complicated C++ templates (i.e. Boost) is SlickEdit, but nothing in the Linux land comes close to VS2005 for C++ debugging.